Ancient Confession Found: 'We Invented Jesus Christ'

[RandomGuy]

http://www.tripadvisor.com/LocationP...um-Serbia.html


That is five tombs of roman emporers.

Now show me the body of Jesus.

[RandomGuy]

You're a ing dumbass, why would they keep an account of someone they hated and sentenced to death? Someone who challenged their Empire and ruling? And Tacitus is a reliable roman historian.

Romans were not the only people capable of writing.

Fail.

[RD2191]

Now you're discrediting reliable Roman historians to fit your agenda? Seriously just shut the already.

[RandomGuy]

You're a ing dumbass, why would they keep an account of someone they hated and sentenced to death? Someone who challenged their Empire and ruling? And Tacitus is a reliable roman historian.

There is every indication that they themselves made up the story to keep Jews in line.

Slaves obey your masters

Render unto ceasar...

Seems like the Romans would have quite a bit of motivation to make up along those lines, don't you think?

[RandomGuy]

Now you're discrediting reliable Roman historians to fit your agenda? Seriously just shut the already.

I am not discrediting Roman scholars. I am merely pointing out that there were writings beyond that of Rome.

You do realize that writing was not unique to Romans, right?

[Woo Bum-kon]

"The Roman historian and senator Tacitus referred to Christ, his execution by Pontius Pilate and the existence of early Christians in Rome in his final work, Annals (written ca. AD 116), book 15, chapter 44.^[1]

lol 80+ years after it allegedly happened.

[RD2191]

There is every indication that they themselves made up the story to keep Jews in line.

Slaves obey your masters

Render unto ceasar...

Seems like the Romans would have quite a bit of motivation to make up along those lines, don't you think?

gtfo

[RandomGuy]

You're a ing dumbass, why would they keep an account of someone they hated and sentenced to death? Someone who challenged their Empire and ruling? And Tacitus is a reliable roman historian.

I don't question Tacitus reliably reporting what HE heard.

I question the truth of what he heard.

He could just as accurately have reported accounts of Bigfoot that he had heard. The problem is that the people telling him had heard it from someone who heard it from someone, who told it to someone a hundred years before his death.

Not unlike a certain young man chopping down a cherry tree. You can accurately relate that you heard the story, but can't speak to whether it happened 200 years after the fact without some evidence FROM THE TIME IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED.

Sorry you can't make that logical connection.

[Woo Bum-kon]

Show me the body of any Roman Emperor. You really are an idiot.

is dis serious?

[RD2191]

1. There are amazingly few manuscripts of ANY text written during Jesus’ time
2. Historians of this period wrote amazingly little about religious figures anyway
3. Jesus was active for an amazingly short period of time (just three years)
4. Jesus ministered in an amazingly remote corner of the Roman Empire

[RD2191]

is dis serious?

Yes, I am.

[Joseph Kony]

"The Roman historian and senator Tacitus referred to Christ, his execution by Pontius Pilate and the existence of early Christians in Rome in his final work, Annals (written ca. AD 116), book 15, chapter 44.^[1]
The context of the passage is the six-day Great Fire of Rome that burned much of the city in AD 64 during the reign of Roman Emperor Nero.^[2]The passage is one of the earliest non-Christian references to the origins of Christianity, the execution of Christ described in the Canonical gospels, and the presence and persecution of Christians in 1st-century Rome.^[3][4]
Scholars generally consider Tacitus's reference to the execution of Jesus by Pontius Pilate to be both authentic, and of historical value as an independent Roman source.^[5][6][7] Eddy and Boyd state that it is now "firmly established" that Tacitus provides a non-Christian confirmation of the crucifixion of Jesus.^[8]
In terms of an overall context, historian Ronald Mellor has stated that the Annals is "Tacitus's crowning achievement" which represents the "pinnacle of Roman historical writing".^[9] The passage is also of historical value in establishing three separate facts about Rome around AD 60: (i) that there were a sizable number of Christians in Rome at the time, (ii) that it was possible to distinguish between Christians and Jews in Rome, and (iii) that at the time pagans made a connection between Christianity in Rome and its origin in Judea.<sup>[10][11]"

Church mother er. So sit down and shut the up.</sup>

So some copypasta from Wiki about the Bible. Way to prove your point dip

[RandomGuy]

gtfo

That is the point I have been trying to make.

I have no idea why the stories came about. The "keep the rebellious jews in line" theory is just one of many.

My point is not that it is valid, it is that it exists at all, which ing demolishes your assertion of "almost all" historians believing something pretty ing handlily.

The fact that you are reduced to "gtfo" and smileys pretty much is a white flag.

[Koolaid_Man]

"You accept the historical existence of Jesus?"

"Unquestionably! No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life."⁷ - Albert Einstein

[Joseph Kony]

1. There are amazingly few manuscripts of ANY text written during Jesus’ time
2. Historians of this period wrote amazingly little about religious figures anyway
3. Jesus was active for an amazingly short period of time (just three years)
4. Jesus ministered in an amazingly remote corner of the Roman Empire

Bull . I know you christian bigots like to believe that yours is the only religion but there were many more religions already established by this time, many of which are do ented and written about, so gtfo with this bull . You don't know what the you're talking about at all, and citing bible-related evidence is not proving anything other than you're even more re ed than originally thought

[Clipper Nation]

So some copypasta from Wiki about the Bible. Way to prove your point dip

Copypasta that he didn't even bother reading, otherwise he'd realize it was from five generations after Jesus' death

Jeebo s
Terrible arguments

[RD2191]

A white flag? What's the point of arguing with a dumbass? You are so set in your belief that no matter what I post you will find a way to discredit it as hearsay.

[Joseph Kony]

"You accept the historical existence of Jesus?"

He also believed he wasn't a god. So what's your point?

[RD2191]

Bull . I know you christian bigots like to believe that yours is the only religion but there were many more religions already established by this time, many of which are do ented and written about, so gtfo with this bull . You don't know what the you're talking about at all, and citing bible-related evidence is not proving anything other than you're even more re ed than originally thought

Ok, well post links to such do ents.

[Koolaid_Man]

Bull . I know you christian bigots like to believe that yours is the only religion but there were many more religions already established by this time, many of which are do ented and written about, so gtfo with this bull . You don't know what the you're talking about at all, and citing bible-related evidence is not proving anything other than you're even more re ed than originally thought

Please name the established religions prior to Christianity

[Joseph Kony]

RG laying the smackdown

[Koolaid_Man]

Paganism?

PS: I already know the answer it's just a test for you....google away dip

[Joseph Kony]

Please name the established religions prior to Christianity

Judaism, Egyptian, Greek, Roman, Hinduism, Shintoism, Animism, Celtic-Druidic, Native American shamanism, etc. You're too stupid for words

[RD2191]

Why do we still use BC?

[Koolaid_Man]

Judaism, Egyptian, Greek, Roman, Hinduism, Shintoism, Animism, Celtic-Druidic, Native American shamanism, etc. You're too stupid for words

How far back do they date and what are the orgins...let's actually put my stupidity to the test