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To those who posted before..."it's SEPTEMBER!" for Christs' sake. Break down something when camp begins or after Indy and Spurs crack heads in about a month. Geez...go away for a month and the place turns into in a handbasket.
Question: Not to re-hash what has been said here too much, but wasn't the Palace fight more like:
Artest fouls Walace.
Walace shoves Artest.
A little shoving by everyone.
Artest lays on scorers table.
Walace throws towel in Artest's direction.
Beer thrown at Artest. All breaks loose.
I thought that was closer to what happened?
To those who posted before..."it's SEPTEMBER!" for Christs' sake. Break down something when camp begins or after Indy and Spurs crack heads in about a month. Geez...go away for a month and the place turns into in a handbasket.
Originally posted by jermaine7fan: If you ask me Ron was fifth in responsibility for that fight escalating to what it did.
FIRST
Ben Wallace
-hard foul in junk time on Ron
-choke pushing Ron after he retaliated
-throwing a towel at Ron while he was laying down ( I believe the fan would have never thought about throwing something at Ron if he hadn't just seen Ben do it)
SECOND
NBA Officials
-for not ejecting and removing Ben and Ron from the court immediately!!! Have you ever seen two players be aloud to stay on court with each other after fighting for that long. It was like two minutes between the choke push and Ron running to the stands... they should have both been in the locker room by then.
THIRD
Stephen Jackson
- For throwing the first punch! Ron ran up in there like a mad man, but he did not swing until after Stephen had started the actual brawl. Ron just pinned the man down... he did not attempt to beat him!
FOURTH
Detroit security
- Their response time was rediculous!!! There are literally 200 to 300 people assigned to stop like this, whether they be police, security, or ushers. And it took at least two minutes for any of them to break anything up! There were fans rushing the court and throwing chairs and the security was more afraid of the Pacers players doing something!
FIFTH
Ron Artest
- For retaliating on Ben for the previous hard foul
- For leaving the court and not leaving it up to the professionals to get the guy who threw the cup. (He did not go in there swinging... he pinned a fan down... Vernon Maxwell did far worse and only got a ten game suspension)
Pretty much;
-Artest hard foul on Wallace with less than 1 minute left and game wrapped up
-Wallace shoves Artest (who backpedaled 15 yards out of Wallace's reach)
-Stephon Jackson for some reason challenges Lindsay Hunter to a fight
-Artest lays on scores table
-Wallace throws towel in Artest's direction
-Beer cup lands on Artest and all breaks loose after he and Jackson charge into stands pummeling fans that had nothing to do with the beer toss.
You guys are the ones that don't get it...None of you respect what we have.Man!!! I can't decide what to think about you all! Is it just this thread that makes you all seem so y and blind?You guys don't give us a chance in to beat you in the playoffs... in reality... we have a very strong chance of doing just that.So do you always come to boards and drop ignorant blanket statements about entire fan bases? Are you so lacking mental for ude that you assume all Spurs fans are of the same mindset. Im just curious. You say good things about your team and you are "defending" them....Spurs fans say good things about their team and they are "arrogant and y"?you all just bash on my team
That is your opinion and as such is not fact. Just because you believe that...does not make it so.and Garnett is the best
I want you to believe we will be your toughest compe ionor you'll what?I will not stop defending us until you all open your eyes and see that Indiana is a threat to you this year.
This topic is pure horse .
Oneal has not seen duncan in playoff. How can this says Garnet is better than Duncan. How you canc compare duncan to Garnet. ofcourse is garnet is bettet in one things that is Sucking up more money and not rings.
I did the exact same thing. I was LMAO so I stopped reading it after the Parker thing. What a bunch of crap.Classicly bad post.
I stopped when you gave the edge to Tinsley. Have you ever seen the two play against each other? Parker owns him.
A look BEYOND the stats
Parker vs. Tinsley
Besides the fact that Parker has OWNED Tinsley every time he played him, let's go beyod the stats. Parker has a hot girlfriend, and every time she is there he seems to suck, having probably got some the night before. The closer they get, the more sex, the more he will suck.
Adv. Tinsley
Manu Ginobili vs. STEPHEN JACKSON
If we are going by position only a moron would compare Gino to Artest. Stephon Jackson has alot to prove, he has to be the only player to go from a championship team to the Hawks for less money. Obviously he's got alot going on up in the brain area. Manu's ability to drive and score on anybody is no match for Stephon's punching ability. That mofo's gansta.
Adv. Jackson
Bruce Bowen vs. Ron Artest
These right are are in the top 3 defensive players, but while Bruce is known for kicking other players. Artest is known for beating up on members of the crowd who have done nothing to him.
Bowens Karate kicks vs. Artest's Assault and battery. It's to close to call.
TIEBREAKER-Singing Ability
Now while I hear that Bowen can really light it up on the Karoke machine nothing compares to Artest's R&B CD.
Winner:Artest
Tim Duncan vs. Jermaine Oneal.
I would love to give it to the two time MVP/ three time Finals MVP. His age makes him lose this one. The fact that he spent FOUR years of college. FOUR, JOneal was smart enough to come right out of college, and he throws a mean right hook.
Adv. Jermaine Oneal
Nazr vs. Foster
Who gives a , it's like comparing some guy who is a placeholder to another guy who is a placeholder.
The bench
As we all know it's better to take young players than proven veterans. Just because they have proved time and time again that they can make shots, doesn't mean anything. The young guys don't need to play better, as long as they can practice for longer hours. As the saying goes "practice makes perfect."
Advantage: Indiana
Looks like we are screwed, might as well just watch Hockey instead of Basketball.
GO STARS!!!!!!
RACK EM!
see what you get for leaving!To those who posted before..."it's SEPTEMBER!" for Christs' sake. Break down something when camp begins or after Indy and Spurs crack heads in about a month. Geez...go away for a month and the place turns into in a handbasket
Austin Crosher was in the NBA Finals in 2000. Nobody other than him.
Screw the individual matchups. Reggie will carry the Pacers all the way to the top!
......oh wait.
More like the mental society as in mentally challenged.This is a moron who goes by jared15 currently on RealGM. He's had a few other user names as he keeps getting banned for his drivel. This guy claims he's in the Mensa society.
BTW, people who work at gas stations are in it, so you know there couldn't be all that much to it.
What is the artest factor? Is that like a mendoza line for crazy. So if you see some crazy dude running around naked with a knife do you say well he's below the artest factor.
Oh no, not the intangibles crap.
*cough*cop-out*cough*
You want facts. SA has 3 rings and you have zero!
Its that simple!
No excuses. No intangibles. Championships 3-0.
Maybe "The Artest Factor" is the name of his new album?
I just noticed this thread right now. I read the first paragraph and then started laughing.
The end.
LMFAO!!!
Tim > Jermaine, everyone.
Nazr > Jeff Foster
Tony > Jamaal Tinsley
Bruce Bowen > Ron Artest
Manu Ginobili > Stephen Jackson
Spurs Bench >>>>>>>>>>>> Pacers Bench
Gregg Popovich > Rick Carlisle (LMFAO 3 NBA Rings to 0 hoto')
This guy is already having nightmares about the Spurs. And he honestly thinks his Pacers will get past Miami? LOL
Try to get some sleep and try not to have anymore nightmares about the Spurs. It is obvious you are delirious by the nonsense you are putting on this message board.
nope... you just omitted some stuff I said.
Yes... I am sure I will have nightmares about the Spurs... I am afraid to sleep tonight... I am on my third red bull. JK. I am done with this thread... so you can all be happy. I can see that we are going to get no respect over here. It's ok though... we have just slightly over a month before our teams will play two games in the pre-season... we can all judge properly then... good luck
wait a sec, the origional post blatantly states the Pacers are far superior to the Spurs, That the Spurs have no chance against your Pacers, DESPITE UNBIASED OPINIONthen all the sudden you feel we dont give you respect when we disagree?
Kiss my freaking ass.
Kiss my freaking ass... I did not make the original post and I do not agree with him either. I have stated time and time again that you guys have a better chance than us... but we are going to be your toughest compe ion. You need to pay more attention before you start talkin .wait a sec, the origional post blatantly states the Pacers are far superior to the Spurs, That the Spurs have no chance against your Pacers, DESPITE UNBIASED OPINION
Kiss my freaking ass.
Really, you looked into the your crystal ball and gazed into the future?but we are going to be your toughest compe ion.
should i slap him now or later?
also will it be the backhand or the more traditional way
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