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    I actually think that Pop would be fine if LMA shot more while he is out there. Diaw was clearly rewarded for his aggression out there. If you're into believing in mind games, maybe one played out last night.

    Regardless, Duncan isn't going to be here forever. LMA should enjoy him while he can.

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    I actually think that Pop would be fine if LMA shot more while he is out there. Diaw was clearly rewarded for his aggression out there. If you're into believing in mind games, maybe one played out last night.

    Regardless, Duncan isn't going to be here forever. LMA should enjoy him while he can.
    Sometimes I think the same thing. I just hope LMA is the type of person that gets motivated and learns by this type of mind games instead of getting discouraged and check out.

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    Well, if he's unhappy being on this team now I haven't seen any signs of it.

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    I just hope he can come through when it's clutch time. Will he shoot when the game is on th me line or pass the ball?

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    The NBA isn't an efficient market like the stock market, so you can't really get the player for the right price. LMA is the highest paid player in the Spurs, but he's obviously not the best and is obviously not worth 10 Manu Ginobilis.
    Last edited by ceperez; 12-22-2015 at 04:28 PM.

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    Sometimes I think the same thing. I just hope LMA is the type of person that gets motivated and learns by this type of mind games instead of getting discouraged and check out.
    Lamarcus wants to win a le, he will not check out, we need him to be able to win it all, he has already had a major positive impact, we have won 3 more games we would've lost without him and he allows us to stay well rested

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    LaMarcus has said since then he doesn't care too much about scoring, he's happy to lean on his defense and get wins. And his defense has been far better than advertised. It might be lip service or it might be Spurs culture getting to him, or it might be our gaudy record, be he seems ok with the current situation. And how can he when Timmy is sacrificing so much of his own point production for the greater good.

    One wonders if we will have these "was LaMarcus worth it" discussions every time he scores less than 20 in a game (win or lose).

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    What an awful thread

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    What an awful thread
    If you didn't believe in HarlemHeat then double-up

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    That was before his visit to Miami. Many have credited Riley with convincing him to take a role by using Bosh as an example of a player who sacrificed numbers to go to four Finals and win two. Thanks, Riles.

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    If you didn't believe in HarlemHeat then double-up
    If it ends up as a bad take, it'll just be a bad take, it happens, as rare as it is, tbh..

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    Sometimes I think the same thing. I just hope LMA is the type of person that gets motivated and learns by this type of mind games instead of getting discouraged and check out.
    If there is any indication of that, even the slightest, i think the team leaders will have some "chit chat" with him, personally. Especially captain West, he will straighten him out, nobody up with his championship quest this season. Win it all the way or bust.

    http://www.indystar.com/story/sports...iana/77713036/

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    . I think improvement next year is going to have to come from within, as I don't expect the Spurs to have money to spend until the summer of 2017 when the cap increases to $108 million vs the $89 million expected for next summer.
    Indeed I agree with this, the team has to develop internally Anderson, Simmons, Boban, and even Ray-who will likely be cheaper to retain than getting someone completely new unless you go the dleague route.

    Even if you have them in small roles initially, you have to hope they can help out bc obtaining comparable value from outside is very likely to be overpriced with the market explosion and you always wonder whether the free agent you get will pan out (some reject from another team like Daye or Ayers, guys with very limited potential - there is a reason they were cheap.) Whereas home grown and developed talent will fit in seamlessly to what Pop wants and get better with experience. The best guys in our most recent past bench, save Marco and Boris were developed this way.

    We can maybe get 1 guy who Pop would prefer to be a vet. Maybe we get D.West back, Rasual, Bonner? Combined with the old guys we hope come back makes for a very old team. We have to grow our young guys.

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    That was before his visit to Miami. Many have credited Riley with convincing him to take a role by using Bosh as an example of a player who sacrificed numbers to go to four Finals and win two. Thanks, Riles.
    No, it wasn't. That was an interview after signing with the Spurs, which obviously happened after the Riley meeting. I also recall an article that said that LMA expressed this concern about touches to Udoka and Udoka said that the Spurs wanted him to be "the guy" and take many shots. I can't find the link now but I read it here somewhere.

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    No, it wasn't. That was an interview after signing with the Spurs, which obviously happened after the Riley meeting. I also recall an article that said that LMA expressed this concern about touches to Udoka and Udoka said that the Spurs wanted him to be "the guy" and take many shots. I can't find the link now but I read it here somewhere.
    I read that also. It was an article about how Ime was crucial in landing Aldridge.
    Honestly his at ude will be attached to wins. If the team is winning and looking like a contender- he's going to be happy.
    If they start losing with any regularity and he's not being leaned on...
    His smile will hit the pile real fast.

    Right now though I"m sure he doesn't want to rock the boat while they are looking like the only team in position to unseat the champs so far and even though he's not scoring up to his previous averages- he still feels useful in these wins.

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    No, it wasn't. That was an interview after signing with the Spurs, which obviously happened after the Riley meeting. I also recall an article that said that LMA expressed this concern about touches to Udoka and Udoka said that the Spurs wanted him to be "the guy" and take many shots. I can't find the link now but I read it here somewhere.
    Well winning cures everything. He's said different things lately.

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    The NBA isn't an efficient market like the stock market, so you can't really get the player for the right price. LMA is the highest paid player in the Spurs, but he's obviously not the best and is obviously not worth 10 Manu Ginobilis.
    Max salaries and the cap cause these inefficiencies. Players like Lebron, the two Thunderettes, Kawhi, CP3/Blake, etc. are worth far more than the max salaries they're being paid (Curry isn't even on one yet). LMA, despite being the highest paid Spur, also falls into the same camp. Yes, it's a lot of money but will be considerably less when the cap jumps and there is a huge set of players below his talent level getting paid the max or close to it.

    Using your stock market example, it would be like putting a cap on the price of every stock regardless of the value you'd get out of it.

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    No, it wasn't. That was an interview after signing with the Spurs, which obviously happened after the Riley meeting. I also recall an article that said that LMA expressed this concern about touches to Udoka and Udoka said that the Spurs wanted him to be "the guy" and take many shots. I can't find the link now but I read it here somewhere.
    The INTERVIEW was after he signed, but the conversation was during the recruiting process. Here's what I was talking about:

    http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/11/...heat-pat-riley

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    The INTERVIEW was after he signed, but the conversation was during the recruiting process. Here's what I was talking about:

    http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/11/...heat-pat-riley
    Well, if he still repeats that "I like scoring" part in the interview after he signed it means that he still thinks that way, tbh.

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    Well, if he still repeats that "I like scoring" part in the interview after he signed it means that he still thinks that way, tbh.
    Everything that was quoted in that article was from the recruiting timeframe, and to say that he still feels that way is a stretch. He was just giving a window into his thoughts during that time.

    If you watch the games, he's standing right by the tunnel with Timmy most nights high fiving and greeting players as they leave the floor. If he were angry about his lower scoring, it would show. I think he know that this is a learning and adjustment period, and that when Tim and Manu leave, his scoring will pop right back up, and he will already be comfortable in the system.

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    this is a stupid topic... spurs are off to the best start in history df.

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    Everything that was quoted in that article was from the recruiting timeframe, and to say that he still feels that way is a stretch. He was just giving a window into his thoughts during that time.

    If you watch the games, he's standing right by the tunnel with Timmy most nights high fiving and greeting players as they leave the floor. If he were angry about his lower scoring, it would show. I think he know that this is a learning and adjustment period, and that when Tim and Manu leave, his scoring will pop right back up, and he will already be comfortable in the system.
    I'm not saying LMA isn't doing all the right things. He won't ever say anything out of place because of all the high profile folks we have in this team and specially because of all the winning that's happening, but deep down I'm sure he would like to be scoring more or, at the very least, not spend the last 15 minutes of a close game in the bench. I'm just saying it would be nice to keep him as happy and comfortable as possible with the decision he made of joining this team.

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    Where's chinook ? wonder where all his danny green is better/more valuable than Leonard posts/threads are these days. Danny is being exposed for what he really is. A system player where sometimes its good and sometimes its bad. He's not good enough to make good out of any situation he's put in, hence he didn't leave. He's probably still worth the $ to the Spurs just because of the corporate knowledge he has and with the Spurs being in win-now mode but at other teams offering him 12+M/yr. And at chinook

    Saying all that, Danny starts to hit some threes and he's fine.

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    I'm not saying LMA isn't doing all the right things. He won't ever say anything out of place because of all the high profile folks we have in this team and specially because of all the winning that's happening, but deep down I'm sure he would like to be scoring more or, at the very least, not spend the last 15 minutes of a close game in the bench. I'm just saying it would be nice to keep him as happy and comfortable as possible with the decision he made of joining this team.
    I think all the winning will be more attractive to him tbh.

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    I'm not saying LMA isn't doing all the right things. He won't ever say anything out of place because of all the high profile folks we have in this team and specially because of all the winning that's happening, but deep down I'm sure he would like to be scoring more or, at the very least, not spend the last 15 minutes of a close game in the bench. I'm just saying it would be nice to keep him as happy and comfortable as possible with the decision he made of joining this team.
    I think winning willl take care of that and will get him more accepting on the inside..he is is in similar boat of Bosh in his first year with the Heatles..A career volume scorer, CB had only 3 30-point games and 31 20-point games all season long (ended up averaging 18.7 in 77 games played)..LMA stands at 0 and 7 in those categories..Obviously our team is deeper than that Heat team and Pop is more of minute watcher than Spo, but with Timmy likely to start racking up more DNP late in the season, i expect Aldridge to get close to Chris Bosh numbers, maybe 25 20-point games and 1 or two 30 point game as he gets acclimated more with our offense..

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