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The curse of Blatt is going to be a .
Lue doesn't strike me as a very talented coach, they will play with the same system, so firing Blatt made zero sense. Even worse signing Lue immediately to a 3 year deal, so if they fire Lue, they will have to pay two coaches instead of one. A move like this could really hurt the Cavs, I don't think any opponent is gonna be afraid of little Lue on the sidelines. Blatt was a very intelligent coach, who knew the game well.
The curse of Blatt is going to be a .
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I was just going to say, it's easy for Spurs fans to talk because you have Tim Duncan, and Tim Duncan doesn't pull like this. Which is fine and good, but there is only one Tim Duncan. This is what you get when you have LeBron. Part of the deal. The only reason he didn't get Spoelstra fired in Miami was because he (and the rest of them) knew Riley would come down and replace Spoelstra, and they definitely didn't want that. This is what you get with LeBron. I'm not saying it's right or good, just that it is what it is.For me, personally, it makes me lose respect for him. It will affect my memory of him and his overall standing with the other NBA legends. If I'm starting a hypothetical franchise with any player in history, I'm taking Tim Duncan over Lebron James every time.I might be a biased Spurs fan, but you could hardly argue that Tim is more coachable and easier to build around.
I do feel Blatt is getting jerked around because he's taking a beating from the organization and from the local media, which isn't fair. He was in a tough spot to begin with because he wasn't hired to coach LeBron and Kevin Love- he was hired to coach Kyrie and Tristan Thompson and Andrew Wiggins and Dion Waiters. He was hired to shape a young team, not cater to superstars. This was a no-win situation for him right from the jump.
That first vid
True,,,according to SF Tim just sat there and watched it burn to the ground.
That is the other side of the coin for being the most coachable star, 6 happens. No way does James let anyone sit him as 6 is happening. No one puts "baby" in the corner ...
Great point James never blessed the hiring Blatt setup to fail
I'm surprised Cully actually wanted a white coach fired.
cavs sucked with blatt, will suck will lue. they're just fodder for whoever they have to face in the finals.
their roster is trash. they should trade irving. and damn near everyone else on that team other than lebron.
can't believe they signed lue to a three year deal
I didn't.
That's too dramatic even for you. How can something burn to the ground yet ring the following season with basically the same players?
I suppose you don't have anything going for you so you need to create a more interesting story line than "Tim trusts his coach".
What burned to the ground was the "Heatles". When have you heard that since? Tim and company ran that off like dogs chasing a boogieman out of the swamps. And you, acting like butter wouldn't melt in your mouth, you've done nothing about any of it except hold up scorecards.
Had that happened against your team, you would be parrotting the "Kobe grabbed jacks and timbers" mantra for the last two years.
LOL no . Remember when Blatt wanted to run the Princeton offense and LeBron said that, I want to play Mark Jackson iso-ball? I'm kind of sad we never got to see Cleveland try to run that offense. I figured LeBron was down to play in a system with lots of ball movement after getting raped by it in the 2014 Finals, but I guess it was LeBron just saying the things people wanted to hear.
I really thought Cleveland was going to be good when they went and hired a real coach instead of someone who'd be Byron Scott East and kiss LeBron's ass. But Blatt was in no position to stand up to LeBron's childish crap when James keeps signing one year deals.
True...but there should be more people like him. More players should take after him as a role model. The league would be better for it.
It'd help if we got the real full story from both sides (players & Blatt). I'm not going to trust the accuracy of what anyone's said, whether ex-Cavs, current Cavs, Blatt or writers. They all have their own agenda.
What I can say is that Blatt never seemed to have the 100% backing of the GM & Gilbert. Through all the controversies of Blatt's tenure, I never heard them emphatically give them their support through the media. No statements or anything. Riley had Spoelstra's back, and Lebron knew he had to buy in.
Now, why they didn't have his back is the biggest question. Was it because they felt that doing so would go against Lebron's feelings toward him? Was it because Blatt, for all his success as a coach in Europe/Israel, just wasn't getting the job done from a tactical and/or player management standpoint? It could've been both. They're not mutually exclusive. If you ask me it was both. We know as pretty much fact that Lebron's ego has made it hard for his preceding coaches to manage him & the team (Brown & Spoelstra), he's a diva no doubt. But Blatt IMO was put in a tough spot where he didn't have the NBA rapport to manage an ego like that, whereas Spoelstra had Riles (and Wade) & Brown came from Pop's coaching tree, which helped them co-exist with Lebron.
In the end, Lebron is Lebron, he's been a coddled & groomed to be this way since he was 16 or younger. It's like a Lindsey Lohan or Kardashian or other child-star that almost invariably end up with a massive ego. Bottom line is it hasn't kept Bron from winning before, or from organizations building competent teams around him, or other organizations from building around similarity egotistical players (ie Kobe & Shaq). The Cavs ultimately picked Blatt to do a different job: to take over a young, developing team. But they had an opportunity to get Lebron back and they were basically stuck with him. Not sure the Cavs could've or should've done anything different at the time. Blatt was a smart hire when he was hired. Obviously getting Lebron back was a smart move.
Where the Cavs ed up bad was trading Wiggins. From what I've seen he looks like a stud, haven't seen much tho tbh. Never been a huge KL fan
Lebron has the same relationship with whitey that a borderline/psycho chick has with her boyfriend: "I hate you! Don't leave me!"
Blatt was clueless for whatever reason. I could coach that team to that record in the East.
They actually needed a coach like Thibs to right the ship, Lue is an unproven rookie coach. Lue understands the system and as an interim head coach would have been fine but immediately a 3 year deal is laughable. Thibs is the coach this Cavs team needed, he would have made sure they got better on the defensive end for sure. Firing Blatt was just a step forward briefly and now a step back by having Lue as the Cavs head coach for the next 3 years. Upgrading Thibs for Blatt would have made perfect sense. Blatt or Lue as the head coach, nothing is going to change with this Cavs team now.
Probably upbringing. Dollars to donuts his parents are intact and of principle.
if so that definitely puts him on the outside.
It's really not an issue with coaching. It's an issue with ownership. When you give one player so much power over your franchise don't expect a second tier coach to come in and usurp that power easily.
His self esteem is assured. He refuses/ed to get into the mud & blood with these cretins. He knows better.
His parents? They done good.
Damn LeBron is a cancer.
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