Spurs: It's official Tim retires

[Killakobe81]

Killa I need some advice about this chic...I think I'm losing it at times...so Heres the situation....I follow her on Instagram and Snap chat and she's always posting pictures of her and her man kissing, partying, and all hugged up....why should I care when I've been ing her non stop behind his back...and can get it anytime I want....but still the pissss me off to see....I don't like it because he thinks he's a bad ass white boy and all that ...but she knows I'm a baller and so I hit that at least 1-2 times per week.. But still it pisses me off to see her with that clown and everyone always congratulating them and liking their pics on Instagram....man I be wanting to say something to that clown so bad but I keep quiet....I will say though these hoes out here are ing scandalous like its no ones business... This is just a weird feeling for me....seems like my heart is kind of changing and I don't like it...I've always prided myself on being devoid of emotion when it comes to es..I've always been very diabolical so I'm getting scared for myself....I need to step back and remember these hoes aint loyal...if she will cheat with you she will cheat on you...use your ing OG brain Kool....you already know this ....it sucks being human at times....

Time to get my Kobe on...

I was in a a similar situation once ...it was before snapchat and IG though so I never saw things they did on the daily
But bad Ecuadorian I was hitting in my younger days (cars, hotel rooms my place even a place they kind of shared once ...I am not proud just being honest)
You should NOT care unless you do. I found myself starting to care as well it wasnt just the great sex we had great conversations loved to shop watching her try on clothes jeans, dresses shoes it did not matter ...huge turn on. I didnt even mine spending $ on her. Because she used to model the out of it and wear it well. But we were both starting relationships that were better "fits". her family were Jehova's witness and she ended up marrying a dude from her Kingdom hall. I had started to date my now wife and her family is Belizean like both my parents.
But back to your case. We crossed paths once at a Music festival and another time at a community event her church was doing.
She and I worked together and the workplace started to swirl with rumors that we were involved because the sexual tension was obvious.
Dude was a corny ass out of shape dude. And I could tell he was sizing me up and doing extra PDA to show me that was his.
I knew it was not and if I pushed hard enough I could have her ... but that bothered me. I wanted to say something to his ass too.
But I did not. What would I gain? I got her and had her at Lunch after work etc. HE got to play boyfriend on the weekend and go to family functions ...
Ids that what I wanted to be the trophy or the be the N.IG.G.A?
He was sprung and proposed and wifed her down. I think I could have broken that up but to what end?
IF i was not ready to wife her why stop him?
You already know what to do Kool I dont even need to say it ...

But to remind you throw on All eyez on me and skip to track #23 Some highlights:

you fuken with niccas that's insecure, watered down my is pure ...
When you met me you wouldnt let me an now you straight begging to sex me ...
you might THINk you happy with him but that's a lie ...so give this thug a try ...

You can ride out the spoke coke, to get your lobster and crab ... cause I all I got is conversation and a gang of stab ...
Im gonna listen when it hurts, I gonna hang out but never save, I leave them stunts up to Super dave

He wine and dine but me and you we wind and grind ...and when I'm ON the FIELD keep him on the sidelines ....

Id rather be your N_I_G_G_A so we can drunk and smoke weed all day (not a fan of weed or smoking)
It dont matter if your lonely baby, you need a thug in your life ...
Them BUSTAS aint loving you right ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SVCdkwK3TY

PAc and Richie Rich laid it out for you to play it out, Kool ...you know what to do.

[Killakobe81]

Oh and I forgot about the Pac's best line to the chick ...

Now it's time for the moment of truth ..I got u naked
... if it's ALL MINE let me know ...scream my name out (wont lie I did get off on making the ecudaorian do this that is how I got back at that dude in my head ...petty I know)
Do you want it fast or should I hit it slow?
Not to mention the multiple positions I inflict
A boss player, freaky motherfunker can addict ...

and Richie rich ...
It's on and poppin now you see what I was seeing ...
I aint going nowhere let's let that SUCKA STAY out there ...
while he stressed out and knock, I streched out the
Hold the boots and let a nicca execute ....

So much game on one track, kool. Hadnt played this in a while but your question popped this track in my head. fun times.

[Koolaid_Man]

Thanks for posting this reminder Killa...I needed to hear it...

You can ride out the spoke coke, to get your lobster and crab ... cause I all I got is conversation and a gang of stab ...
Im gonna listen when it hurts, I gonna hang out but never save, I live them stunts up to Super dave

Sometimes playas get weak too....we need to be reminded who and what we are to fight against the lovey dovey feelings that can with us on occasion...

Like Snoop said:

" So turn off the lights and close the door, but for what we don't love them hoes...so we gone smoke an ounce to this G's up Hoes down while you mutha ers bounce to this."

Man I'm awake now

[Killakobe81]

Thanks for posting this reminder Killa...I needed to hear it...


Sometimes playas get weak too....we need to be reminded who and what we are to fight against the lovey dovey feelings that can with us on occasion...

Like Snoop said:

Man I'm awake now

Dont get me wrong im no player ...at least not lime the homeys i grew up with ...there was a brief 2 year window ...and that was my anthem for that time in my life.
I was just saying if you dont want to wife her up ...
Enjoy the sex, check the feelings. We all are human and can catch feelings but if you not ready to choose her let her go.
Remember he is paying for it when she is giving it 2 you for free...
Its like leasing a Benz ...and after you done put some miles and excess wear and tear he gonna buy it used. While you lease a new Jaguar or Audi.

[Koolaid_Man]

Oh and I forgot about the Pac's best line to the chick ...

Now it's time for the moment of truth ..I got u naked
... if it's ALL MINE let me know ...scream my name out (wont lie I did get off on making the ecudaorian do this that is how I got back at that dude in my head ...petty I know)
Do you want it fast or should I hit it slow?
Not to mention the multiple positions I inflict
A boss player, freaky motherfunker can addict ...

and Richie rich ...
It's on and poppin now you see what I was seeing ...
I aint going nowhere let's let that SUCKA STAY out there ...
while he stressed out and knock, I streched out the
Hold the boots and let a nicca execute ....

So much game on one track, kool. Hadnt played this in a while but your question popped this track in my head. fun times.

Yeah the dude thinks he's a boss....I think she posts that to try and make me jealous because she wants me .....and I told her I'm not into being in a serious relationship.. But I do care for her....I can have her if I wanted to...she is a stunna bit also a ...we had a falling out recently because I told her she was disgusting.... I know I should never say that to a them nuclear words but I said it any way I'm just gonna keep taxing that ass for as long as I feel it ...and move on....

[Killakobe81]

Yeah the dude thinks he's a boss....I think she posts that to try and make me jealous because she wants me .....and I told her I'm not into being in a serious relationship.. But I do care for her....I can have her if I wanted to...she is a stunna bit also a ...we had a falling out recently because I told her she was disgusting.... I know I should never say that to a them nuclear words but I said it any way I'm just gonna keep taxing that ass for as long as I feel it ...and move on....

Enjoy ...

[cobbler]

Never knew Derek fisher is so high on your all time list.

Never implied Fisher was anywhere on my list. Read the post. Maybe after a few tries you might even comprehend it along with the context from where it came.

[ambchang]

You are a tad sensitive today DPG but thanks for the insightful reply. My post simply states the truth. There is weight and merit that comes with defending a championship. It's extremely difficult to do. I could explain it in detail for you but I really don't think it would sink in so I choose not to waste my time. Simply put Jordan was a master at defending the throne. Timmy, not so much.

And I for one am a TD fan. Great and astonishing career! For me thought, not defending a single le is a blemish. If that's a sh*t opinion, then so be it.

Really? Well, it's first and foremost a team accomplishment. It's a team sport duh. As individuals you comprise the team therefore it also becomes an individual accomplishment. That's what being a team is about. Individuals accomplishing team goals. Being the team captain/leader brings more responsibility and with it, as always, more individual accolades/criticisms depending on the outcome. It's not rocket science.

Never implied Fisher was anywhere on my list. Read the post. Maybe after a few tries you might even comprehend it along with the context from where it came.

Fisher was the captain of b2b champions. B2b was extremely difficult to do, and being the captain brings a lot of accolades. How many b2b champion captains were there in the history of the league.

Based on your criteria, fisher ranks high on your list.

You either were a horrible communicator earlier on or is trying to make things up as you go.

[cobbler]

Fisher was the captain of b2b champions. B2b was extremely difficult to do, and being the captain brings a lot of accolades. How many b2b champion captains were there in the history of the league.

Based on your criteria, fisher ranks high on your list.

You either were a horrible communicator earlier on or is trying to make things up as you go.

Context ambchang. The caption/leader reference was directly with Kobe and Tim in the context of the discussion. You only brought Fisher into it because you seem to think that invalidates my comments when they were clearly pointing to Kobe's leadership. Wrong again per the usual.

Its just common sense ambchang. We all know that the leaders and captains of teams get more accolades (warranted or not) and take more blame (warranted or not) than the average player. Fisher is higher on my list that other equivalently skilled point guards indeed because he helped defend 3 les in a captains role. And yes he got well publicized accolades for being the glue in the locker room etc. Are you saying he didn't?

But to say he is high on my list of overall players is just you tying to bait some little grade school argument out of me with no base in fact. Heck, to be honest, my list doesn't even go that low. I have better things to do but if we were discussing point guards and listing them you bet Fisher gets points in my book for being the captain of 3 le defending champions.

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Context ambchang. The caption/leader reference was directly with Kobe and Tim in the context of the discussion. You only brought Fisher into it because you seem to think that invalidates my comments when they were clearly pointing to Kobe's leadership. Wrong again per the usual.

[ambchang]

Context ambchang. The caption/leader reference was directly with Kobe and Tim in the context of the discussion. You only brought Fisher into it because you seem to think that invalidates my comments when they were clearly pointing to Kobe's leadership. Wrong again per the usual.

Its just common sense ambchang. We all know that the leaders and captains of teams get more accolades (warranted or not) and take more blame (warranted or not) than the average player. Fisher is higher on my list that other equivalently skilled point guards indeed because he helped defend 3 les in a captains role. And yes he got well publicized accolades for being the glue in the locker room etc. Are you saying he didn't?

But to say he is high on my list of overall players is just you tying to bait some little grade school argument out of me with no base in fact. Heck, to be honest, my list doesn't even go that low. I have better things to do but if we were discussing point guards and listing them you bet Fisher gets points in my book for being the captain of 3 le defending champions.

Why are you talking about Kobe? You were talking about Jordan and I was talking about fisher.

And no, we were talking about Duncan's place in league history and you explicitly stated captain of a b2b champion is something of merit, which makes Duncan lesser than Jordan. Which in and of itself re ed because Jordan could have won 6 les every other year and still be regarded the way he is regarded right now.

[phyzik]

In case you bottom dwellers didnt see it....

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/wa...ent-interview/

Really insightful interview since it was done by a friend of his... he opens up a lot more than what you see in the big media.

It's a long one though, the video in this link is 44 minutes long, the live interview was actually almost an hour and a half. I'm just assuming it was cut to 44 minutes due to some technical difficulties during the live interview.

[cobbler]

Why are you talking about Kobe? You were talking about Jordan and I was talking about fisher.

And no, we were talking about Duncan's place in league history and you explicitly stated captain of a b2b champion is something of merit, which makes Duncan lesser than Jordan. Which in and of itself re ed because Jordan could have won 6 les every other year and still be regarded the way he is regarded right now.

We all know why you brought up Fisher. I'll not go down that grade school path with you. I should have simply said "leaders" and left the "captain" part off since you seem to have difficulty with concepts.

And you are right. If Jordan had won six les every other year he would still be held in high regard. That's a no brainer. But if you think not defending one of those les wouldn't be brought up in every legacy discussion then you are a fool. Seriously, you cannot see the merit in winning 10 in a row over 10 in 20 years? Enough...

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In case you bottom dwellers didnt see it....

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/wa...ent-interview/

Really insightful interview since it was done by a friend of his... he opens up a lot more than what you see in the big media.

It's a long one though, the video in this link is 44 minutes long, the live interview was actually almost an hour and a half. I'm just assuming it was cut to 44 minutes due to some technical difficulties during the live interview.

Did he talk about having to go thru Bexar County authorities to set up visitation with his children?

[Killakobe81]

they all holding on though ...


Not gonna debate today but tim has his decorated college career to add to his HOF resume ...
But Kobe has two gold medals while tim has none.

Both are HOf'ers of the highest order

BUMP For splits ass ..

[Killakobe81]

Well spoken. Td is an all time great ...
Goat pf arguably best career since Jordan.
Not sure he is the greatest player since Mj and thats different
Hakeem, Shaq, Lebron definitely and even Kobe could make a case as the better individual player, but career wise its Duncan.however i do think magic and Jordan for leading a repeat do have an edge on Duncan and Kareem had the better career period.
Spur fan be overly sensitive on that count but its my honest and biased opinion.

Bump for Splits ass as well

[DMC]

Bump for Splits ass as well

An old man, a cripple and an autistic man go into a bar....

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An old man, a cripple and an autistic man go into a bar....

....the tired old bag Duncan: 2nd 5th

[Mark Celibate]

The possibility or difficulty of repeating depends to a good extent on the compe ive level of the context imho. If you got the best team in a rather weak era with no close runner up, chance is you can win two or more championships in a row without facing much contest. But if you play among a host of good teams during a period of time like the mid 2000s, winning 3 championships within the time span of 5 years was easily more impressive than winning consecutive 3 when the 2nd best player on the opposing team was either Dekembe Mutombo or Richard Jefferson

[ambchang]

We all know why you brought up Fisher. I'll not go down that grade school path with you. I should have simply said "leaders" and left the "captain" part off since you seem to have difficulty with concepts.

And you are right. If Jordan had won six les every other year he would still be held in high regard. That's a no brainer. But if you think not defending one of those les wouldn't be brought up in every legacy discussion then you are a fool. Seriously, you cannot see the merit in winning 10 in a row over 10 in 20 years? Enough...

Who is we? So you know the reason I brought up Fisher is to say that you are re ed? It's like saying, "I know why you brought up Jordan. I'll not go down that grade school path with you." I mean, does Jordan really have to win those 6 b2b2b and then b2b2b? Not really, he'd still be goat if he won 4 or 5, every other year. It's like saying a Bugatti is a better car than a BMW M3 because the Bugatti's got better bucket seats.

Bird not repeating never brought any issue to his legacy discussion, and nobody would rank Hakeem ahead of either Bird of Duncan because Hakeem repeated. Russell won 11 in 13 years, he won freaking 8 in a row, do you rank him #1 all time?

[cobbler]

Who is we? So you know the reason I brought up Fisher is to say that you are re ed? It's like saying, "I know why you brought up Jordan. I'll not go down that grade school path with you." I mean, does Jordan really have to win those 6 b2b2b and then b2b2b? Not really, he'd still be goat if he won 4 or 5, every other year. It's like saying a Bugatti is a better car than a BMW M3 because the Bugatti's got better bucket seats.

Bird not repeating never brought any issue to his legacy discussion, and nobody would rank Hakeem ahead of either Bird of Duncan because Hakeem repeated. Russell won 11 in 13 years, he won freaking 8 in a row, do you rank him #1 all time?

This will be my last post on the topic since you obviously have a difficult time comprehending and I have better things to do. Bird has an awesome legacy and well deserved. The Lakers 80's team trumps his team simply because they won 2 more championships and that is after all the ultimate decider. However, let's toss out a hypothetical here and delete the 80 and 82 championships. Now it's Celt and Lakers with 3 each. How do you break down which was the better team when the ultimate qualifier (championships) is the same? Some, obviously not you, would find that the Lakers 3 les were greater than the Celts 3 because they managed to defend their le in the process. If it wasn't so difficult to do then it would happen a lot more often. Because it is so difficult some consider it relevant. I can understand with you being a Spurs fan why you would discount such an accomplishment.

When did I ever say repeating is my number one qualifier when comparing individuals or teams? You are just making up Arm. Russel definitely gets points for not only the number of ships but also the le defenses.

When considering teams the only thing that ultimately matters is championships. The Celts are number 1 on the teams list. I hate it but facts are facts. The lakers are 2nd with no other team close. Again, facts.

Now if you want to split up eras and compare teams we could argue until the cows come home but everyone has differing criteria on how they rate teams as well as individuals. For me in the team realm it's championships, head to head series, head to head playoff wins, and you guessed it, le defenses.

That's why if i go even further and take the 72 le off the scale and leave just the last 5 Laker championships the scale still tilts towards the P&G. 5 = 5 so my next criteria is head to head series. Check Lakers. Head to head game wins. Check Lakers. Was there a le defense involved. Triple check Lakers.

Sure, you can bring up that the Lakers missed the playoffs more over the time span. You can absolutely say the Spurs were more consistent over the 20 years as well. Kudos to them for their regular season prowess! It's remarkable and note worthy. But when it's all said and done, it's about who is holding the trophy at the end of the season and should there be any ties my qualifiers as listed above are playoff driven. I again have no doubt yours are different.

As for how I rate individuals all the above has importance with respect to their roles in accomplishing the team goals ALONG with their individual stats. Again, not rocket science. Just some plain ole common sense.

Oh, and by the way, Jordan isn't the goat on my list. OMG, the internet is going to collapse now!

[scanry]

Did he talk about having to go thru Bexar County authorities to set up visitation with his children?

Aren't they watching your old wrinkly ass considering your history.

[ambchang]

This will be my last post on the topic since you obviously have a difficult time comprehending and I have better things to do. Bird has an awesome legacy and well deserved. The Lakers 80's team trumps his team simply because they won 2 more championships and that is after all the ultimate decider. However, let's toss out a hypothetical here and delete the 80 and 82 championships. Now it's Celt and Lakers with 3 each. How do you break down which was the better team when the ultimate qualifier (championships) is the same? Some, obviously not you, would find that the Lakers 3 les were greater than the Celts 3 because they managed to defend their le in the process. If it wasn't so difficult to do then it would happen a lot more often. Because it is so difficult some consider it relevant. I can understand with you being a Spurs fan why you would discount such an accomplishment.

The good ole “I painted myself in the corner so I will say you are slow and I am too important for you move”. Perhaps it could be better comprehended by any one reading what you wrote if you actually wrote what you meant in the first place. Or admit you didn’t think through before you wrote (which is fine). Better yet, you should have actually just thought through your criteria before posting instead of pulling these stupid takes on how repeating is so important in a player’s legacy, and continue to contradict yourself over and over.

And you are probably the only person who would rank the Lakers 3 championships over the Celtics ones because they repeated. The 85, 87 and 88 les were arguably better than the Celtics ones because the lakers beat the Celtics twice, while the Celtics beat the Lakers once, and even then, it’s an iffy statement because the 86 Celtics team was viewed as one of the best teams of all time.

When did I ever say repeating is my number one qualifier when comparing individuals or teams? You are just making up Arm. Russel definitely gets points for not only the number of ships but also the le defenses.

And yet you pulled the Jordan > Duncan because he repeated card, which is stupid.

When considering teams the only thing that ultimately matters is championships. The Celts are number 1 on the teams list. I hate it but facts are facts. The lakers are 2nd with no other team close. Again, facts.

Yeah, sure, whatever you want to say.

Now if you want to split up eras and compare teams we could argue until the cows come home but everyone has differing criteria on how they rate teams as well as individuals. For me in the team realm it's championships, head to head series, head to head playoff wins, and you guessed it, le defenses.

And yet you used b2b to compare individuals between Jordan and Duncan.

That's why if i go even further and take the 72 le off the scale and leave just the last 5 Laker championships the scale still tilts towards the P&G. 5 = 5 so my next criteria is head to head series. Check Lakers. Head to head game wins. Check Lakers. Was there a le defense involved. Triple check Lakers

And yet you used b2b to compare individuals between Jordan and Duncan.

Sure, you can bring up that the Lakers missed the playoffs more over the time span. You can absolutely say the Spurs were more consistent over the 20 years as well. Kudos to them for their regular season prowess! It's remarkable and note worthy. But when it's all said and done, it's about who is holding the trophy at the end of the season and should there be any ties my qualifiers as listed above are playoff driven. I again have no doubt yours are different.

And yet you used b2b to compare individuals between Jordan and Duncan.

As for how I rate individuals all the above has importance with respect to their roles in accomplishing the team goals ALONG with their individual stats. Again, not rocket science. Just some plain ole common sense.

And yet you used it to compare individuals between Jordan and Duncan.

Oh, and by the way, Jordan isn't the goat on my list. OMG, the internet is going to collapse now!

Not sure who is, because from an importance to team goals along with individual stats perspective, Jordan is really second to none. The only other person with any sort of argument is Kareem.

[cobbler]

The good ole “I painted myself ... is Kareem.

Defending a championship is both a team and individual accomplishment. Period. How much importance one puts on the accomplishment is subjective. I find it relevant. You obviously find no value in it. You can try to twist my comments all you want. I could not care less. And by the way, thank you for pointing out that I left out the Lakers head to head victories over those Celtics teams. Fits right in to my weighted criteria posted earlier. I could have stated that better no doubt. Also, since you brought it up you must believe the Lakers were the better team vs the Spurs over the last two decades.

And I really cannot fathom how you can argue that Jordan's 2 le defenses and 2 three-peats don't factor into his legacy or that TD and the Spurs lack to do so is a blemish in some peoples opinions.

Enough already.... Have a good day.

[Killakobe81]

Defending a championship is both a team and individual accomplishment. Period. How much importance one puts on the accomplishment is subjective. I find it relevant. You obviously find no value in it. You can try to twist my comments all you want. I could not care less. And by the way, thank you for pointing out that I left out the Lakers head to head victories over those Celtics teams. Fits right in to my weighted criteria posted earlier. I could have stated that better no doubt.

And I really cannot fathom how you can argue that Jordan's 2 le defenses and 2 three-peats don't factor into his legacy or that TD and the Spurs lack to do so is a blemish in some peoples opinions.

Enough already....

Amb just loves to argue the inarguable ...
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