oh please. If Durant was a better defender he would have had 8 les by now.Go check all the defensive metrics and get back at me. Durant is top 5 among SF and top 30 overall. Klay doesn't even appear on the top 40 SG (he's behind James Har_en).
I don't know where this perception of Klay Thompson being anything more than an average defender came but it just isn't truth. Durant on the other hand is very underrated on that end and when engaged he can become a lockdown perimeter defender as well as a terrific rim protector. Anyone that watches games with a couple of functional eyes can realize that Durant >>>>>>>> Thompson on D.
Kawhi has no ego, he never stepped into the court thinking IM GONNA SCORE 70 POINTS FOR MY FAMS!
Klaynus has a ty ego and gets assisted by his fellas to score this kind of crap against a depleted team, who cares?
If Kiwi were into that kind of crap would score A LOT MORE since he has a wider selection of shots.
My .Can a player play?
I will say this, spur fans in this thread ing about assisted points because of KD, Ayesha and co. really exposes the re in them. Kawhi is playing along side LMA, MVPau, with a good surrounding core of players , youngins and vets , and a HOF coach, and you gots are talking about assisted points? John's post clearly states numbers wise Klay is the real deal. League is watered down in the SG position , especially since harden is a PG now, really its butler I guess even though he is a 3 I believe the majority of the time, Bradley beal, derozan and CJ? Give me klay over everyone minus butler. Like I said earlier if he is on any other team with less talent and he's in the drivers seat, I can't even imagine the numbers. If he had a better face up(triple threat position) where he could attach and finish strong with either hand, he'd be complete. On the warriors he plays team ball, pretty sure the dubs are leading the NBA in team assists.
If kiwi had that mentality he'd be the MVP. Stop hiding behind the truth u ing wish he was like that.
Your ability to analyze things is limited and it's not your fault, little buddy.
he'd also have less wins and les
What a great counter argument when he clearly stated facts. It seems your reading ability needs to be analyzed.
Your ability to analyze things is limited and it's not your fault, little buddy.
In the past. Today's Kawhi needs to be more aggressive if you ask me. Sometimes it's good to be selfish.
Assisted % of star swingmen
Kawhi: 44%
Thompson: 81%
That's why we're talking about assisted points, dummy.
Star swingmen? What the kind of stat is that? I could free up klay Thompson if I set a screen , am I a star swingman?
In what way do those stats prove Thompson is the better scorer? Of course he'd have a marginally higher FG%: his shots are generally wide open. Both teams play different styles of ball. The Dubs' is much more fast-paced and free-flowing which helps generate great looks for shooters. Meanwhile the Spurs play at a slow pace and generate points through posting up, PnP, PnR, and a lot of ISO. Kawhi generates a lot of that offense; Klay is a beneficiary of his team's style of play.
The fact you're implying in any way that LMA assists Kawhi at all in him scoring destroys your comment completely. LMA is getting better at passing, but he is nowhere near the playmaker you seem to think he is.
He used FG%s as his argument for what makes a scorer.
As a Kobe fan, that makes sense to you? So any player with higher FG%s (there's plenty) was a better scorer than Kirby?
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DMC has some solid basketball minds backing him, tbh.
The stat is % of assisted FGs. Klay gets 81% of his FGs assisted. Kawhi 44%.
Robz.. if LMA is on the floor he is a threat , especially on the block. I'd be curious to see what Kawhi open shot % is, and curious to see how often LMA gets doubled. kawhi has plenty of help to make his scoring life easier , that's what I'm implying.
If your looking at both those percentages who would you rather have ? Especially seeing the trend going in different directions. put the names aside.
That's a pretty got way to describe it , why say star ? Because your trying to strengthen your ty take. The warriors as a team average 32 a game...the warriors are better yes , better players yes. That doesn't mean klay isn't really good , they play team ball. Does it matter how he scores ? He's scoring in bunches, if he was on the sixers he'd be averaging 30 no pronlem.
DMC has some solid basketball minds backing him, tbh.
The stat is % of assisted FGs. Klay gets 81% of his FGs assisted. Kawhi 44%.
It's idiotic to use percentages as your basis when one player isn't a first option. First options receive the bulk of the attention from opposing defenses. Third/fourth options don't.
LMA doesn't create open shot opportunities for Kawhi; he presents another option to throw it to in order to generate points for the team. Other than that he's a pretty one-dimensional offensive player at this point, albeit he's showing flashes of a growing passing game ala Tim. When he's doubled he often has to throw it way out towards the half court line or make a choreographed pass back out to the perimeter to reset and reposition unless he takes one of his patented fadeaways. MVPau does offer some ability to get Kawhi open looks, but it's been a well-observed trend that the SL is basically ISO.
Apparently, calling Kawhi/Klaynus and the rest of the guys on the list 'star swingmen' is me trying to strengthen my take.
You aren't smart enough for this discussion, brah. Sorry.
You're wasting your time, brah.
JR Smith actually made more 3s that Klay in '15 Finals & had the same eFG% in '16.
JR as the SECOND OPTION actually outplayed Klay in the last 2 games of the '15 Finals, it's just that Delly got gassed & the Cavs run out of bodies so they couldn't close the deal like '16.
lol you still have to make the shot, which he does regularly. Jesus.
So he's a better shooter; we've acknowledged as such. Being an elite shooter =! being an elite scorer. Matt Bonner could make wide open shots at a high rate, didn't make him an elite scorer.
Abandon the argunent and call it a win. Lesser minds go to move.
Expecting Kobrick stans to comprehend the existence of assists.
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