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Mitigating factor like I said. Using a third party often doesn't absolve a party from culpability though.
When someone says Chicago is the most violent city in the country, it makes sense to use death rate to argue against that claim. When someone says the President sucks at pandemic response, it makes sense to talk about total deaths in the country. We could certainly use deaths per capita instead, but it wouldn't tell a different story.
Why would you add an irrelevant state or local variable to an argument of federal response unless the discussion is about specific states or cities? You're not making an argument about data relevance, you just want the topic to be different.
If you want to rank states by response, it seems appropriate to rank by death rate. I'm not sure I've seen anyone argue against that. Where has anyone said death rate is not relevant to state or local response?Look at COVID death rates in individual states. When it gets to that level, suddenly the left wants to merge all deaths together again because the metrics aren't favorable to their narrative.
Mitigating factor like I said. Using a third party often doesn't absolve a party from culpability though.
Me, six hours ago:
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sho...1#post10292097
Unless you can come up with a contract of killing for hire, the media company is 100% criminally off the hook. We can put money on that if you want.
Meanwhile fat idiot is dead.
Does anyone know anything about his family? kids? relatives? friends?
People should not be killed because they are stupid.
There is a pride factor involved in all of this as well.
Could the security guard just taken the mace and attack and got the out of there? Would he if he did not have a gun? This fat guy must die because its him or me??? Thats what a gun decides for you. Dammit, fat guy maced me... Now hes gonna steal or do what? No, he will die.
fcked up.
Find the fat man later and beat his fat ass into exhaustion if you must, dont kill him.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
Just to be clear, if MAGA s want to use deaths/capita instead of total deaths to grade Trump's covid response, 'Murica now has a worse COVID deaths/capita rate than 8 other countries, and 6 of them are central/south american holes we shouldn't be using as a way to grade ourselves.
Cite some relevant cases.
Yeah I dont like that when humans are determining the rules of the game for an unknown foe in a very short time frame.
And you dont go back on the rules when you pull the trigger.
This is just wrong all the way around.
You’ve been posting the same 3 words since this morning. Give it a rest.
The media has no vicarious liability for the shooter. He's not its employee, he works for the company they contracted with for security.
This is all ignoring the fact that a fat asshole running around physically assaulting people and bear macing them has no credible argument that he was en led to a level of care from those around him. He was running around looking to start . A lawsuit that he was en led to a standard of care from the guy he walked up to, assaulted and sprayed with bear mace would be a frivolous joke.
I prefer nobody to die too, but frankly we're surrounded with fake tough guys that watch too much Rambo... so this shouldn't be surprising either IMVHO
I was speaking to the civil side, but the criminal side could be curious.
That would require stuff to be unearthed. It's still early in the process.
Oh, so now laws matter? Where was this same energy when Kyle Rittenhouse broke multiple laws before committing murder in Wisconsin?
I'm not interested in your wing nut distraction, tbh.
The city requires the license, not the state.
You learned to not make such stupid mistakes in muh class, didn't you?
Exactly. Maybe y'all should add a "non- hole countries with a higher death rate than the US" line to that daily COVID tracker.
Yeah, the criminal case can only really go forward on a technicality, IMO... this is even without looking at CO laws specifically.
On the civil side, the bar is much lower, and convincing a jury with photos of re holding a baby might be enough. Plus the family will have a long line of trial lawyers knocking on their door.
No it doesn't. Violence and death are not synonymous.
Also, if the country had 20 billion people and the same 200K died, that miniscule percentage would be still 200K deaths, but the death rate would be very low. So death rate absolutely matters. When jurisdictions are controlled at the state level, and you want to ignore state level death rates in favor of compiling all results to issue blame to the federal level, that's just wrangling the stats to suit your narrative.
Of course, it just seems no one on the left wants to, not yet at least. Just as no one gave 2 s about NY's deaths but as soon as a red state started feeling it, then the gov was called everything but a white man.Why would you add an irrelevant state or local variable to an argument of federal response unless the discussion is about specific states or cities? You're not making an argument about data relevance, you just want the topic to be different.
If you want to rank states by response, it seems appropriate to rank by death rate. I'm not sure I've seen anyone argue against that. Where has anyone said death rate is not relevant to state or local response?
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On the civil side, I agree. This smells like settlement out of court right now.
So a trigger happy wannabe cop is going to prison and a violence-provoking MAGA is dead.
Win-win IMO
He made his own hats!:
Mostly peaceful though.
I was talking about civil when I said vicarious liability.
The bar is much lower in terms of only needing to show by a preponderance of evidence, but you still need to have a claim upon which relief can be sought in the first place.
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