Pop's disciple.
Yeah, before deciding how much weight to lay on Borrego, remember all the drama that surrounded Lonzo Ball and his dad. Then LaMelo and the dad... again. LaMelo having his own sportswear line, etc.
Could one young diva plus an older family member contribute an awful lot to a toxic culture for a coach? I wouldn't be surprised if Borrego contributed, but I wouldn't blackball him unless I knew a lot more.
Yeah, he didn't play the rookies and the team wasn't doing well. He needed to go.
They may want to add a veteran instead of adding two more rookies so maybe the Spurs can work a trade with them to get the 13 or 15 pick. Should be some good players falling into that range.
The fact he got fired with 2 years left makes it worse in my eyes. He lost the locker room and for that I think it couldn’t have been just one guy. Also I mentioned it at the time but Charlotte looked to be about the worst of the play in teams. His guys weren’t ready to play. One thing is missing shots and having a bad game bc of bad shot selection or just a bad shooting night but a very different one is seeing guys playing no defense, no hustle, no kind of cohesion on defense. Charlotte looked listless.
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They clearly wanted Poeltl at the deadline. Maybe they'll be more willing to throw in the necessary kickers to get it done now.
LaMelo probably didn't like Borrego and that's all it takes now sadly. Wouldn't mind seeing him back on the sidelines as an assistant tbh
Yeah, Charlotte flaming out like they did is relatively great for the Spurs, provided they're still interested in that previous offer. Relatedly, I don't know what Bridges' contract situation is, but could a trade be had featuring Jakob and him (with compensation around it, obviously)? I've always liked his style of play, and the Spurs guards could really use a big man with his dynamism.
It was an immature thing to do, without question. I don’t think it’s indicative at all though of Kai as a person. These kids are going to make mistakes on social.
Let’s not forget George Hill’s lewd image leaks, even DJ’s “WTF?” after Primo was drafted.
There is a video version of this but couldn’t find it.
LOL. 19-21 year old kids who go from all the coeds they can handle to becoming instant millionaires, and we're surprised at some "bad" behavior? I'll probably get skewered for saying this, but let's be honest - Tony's affair with a teammate's wife is the kind of thing that can really mess up team chemistry. But if it hadn't become public?
I don't like when players like Kawhi and AD go public, and screw over team, teammates, and fans. And I don't like it when players publicly dog a coach. Take it upstairs, privately.
Yup. I feel sorry for them... for the few seconds that it takes me to remember they'll make more money in one year (month in many cases) that most of us will make in our entire lifetimes. Tough life
I just want to be clear that I have nothing against Borrego and we will likely never know the full extent of why a (firing) decision was made.
I just wanted to report some of the things I heard across the season that was.
But it’s unlikely that it’s just one person or issue that lead to this…
Oh, hey, I wasn't jamming you up. I appreciate information. I was just laughing at the thought of 20 year old instant millionaires acting immature. If you really want to know the whole truth, I was thinking about myself as a 20 year old instant millionaire, and what a pillar of maturity I would have been. I started wondering why I sort of overlook some guys and not others.
All good mate. Honestly never took it as such. Just felt like the perception on the board may be because I’m interested in Kai Jones’ development as a prospect that I’d shy away from the objective truth in the matter, siding with the players/fans over coaches.
Honestly just want to see Kai do well in whatever situation he ends up.
I thought it was a hand and glove fit last draft between Spurs and the Texas product FWIW. The fact being that rumours started to swirl around the trade deadline that the Spurs may be interested in Kai, again, rekindled some of those hopes. (And possibly lead to the idea that the Spurs did try to trade down to get both Primo and Jones in that draft).
The fact we didn’t end up with him and traded my favourite Spur too, D.White, wasn’t the greatest of days for me.
Your interest in Kai as a prospect is all good... trade a lotto pick for him should have you ins utionalized though :PAll good mate. Honestly never took it as such. Just felt like the perception on the board may be because I’m interested in Kai Jones’ development as a prospect that I’d shy away from the objective truth in the matter, siding with the players/fans over coaches.
Honestly just want to see Kai do well in whatever situation he ends up.
I thought it was a hand and glove fit last draft between Spurs and the Texas product FWIW. The fact being that rumours started to swirl around the trade deadline that the Spurs may be interested in Kai, again, rekindled some of those hopes. (And possibly lead to the idea that the Spurs did try to trade down to get both Primo and Jones in that draft).
The fact we didn’t end up with him and traded my favourite Spur too, D.White, wasn’t the greatest of days for me.
I love seeing player reactions about other teams in the playoffs.
Meanwhile, Portland be like..."we're gonna run it back with you and CJ and hope Nurk and Zollins stay healthy" for like 5 straight years.
Dude must be looking at other options at this point. Maybe he likes Tex-Mex and churros?
We have some desirable trade candidates : Dougie, j rich, poodle…. Our off season should be truly interesting!
The impressive thing too is that they went against conventional wisdom and drafted two guys who were considered T-rex athletes, both of whom were red flagged comment-wise all over the place for their measurements. Brandon Clarke's wingspan was the same as his height in shoes-- underwhelming for a forward-- and Desmond Bane has the very unusual situation of having a wingspan almost 2" shorter than his height, which is incredibly rare in the NBA.
both guys are among their best players. I’ve seen somewhere that age is just one factor, which I take to mean, yeah how young the prospect is, it’s important but doesn’t paint the whole picture. I think measurements are kind of the same, they are a factor, but don’t paint the whole picture. Both guys were drafted late in the first, were not “lottery talent” but have outperformed many other blue chip guys because they could always play basketball and were very good right out of the gate, and getting better with more confidence and experience.
I think the Grizzlies went for the home run play with Ziaire, so we’ll see what happens there.
Spurs may actually have a shot at getting Zach Lavine with this Bulls sloppy exit. Not sure I’d want him, but I thought the chance was zero before the playoffs.
Not worth the money in my opinion and doesn’t seem to be a go to guy in the clutch.
Bane was on my very short (and public) list in 2020. Haliburton was my first choice, but I was convinced that there was a deal that the Spurs could have done to get both of them. Bane had talent, but also an excess of toughness. And that intangible quality of being a "winner".
Last year I really, really wanted the Spurs to grab Davion Mitc , for a lot of the same reasons, even if it meant trying to move up a couple of slots. (As it turned out, two slots still wouldn't have been enough, but TIMVP and I are still going to have an I-told-you-so moment after his second year, even if I'm the one eathing crow.) But Sengun and Duarte were my fallback positions if Mitc was already off the board.
I also screamed for the Spurs to take Max Strus in the second round, or at least have a contract waiting if he went undrafted. He's now starting in the playoffs for the best (record) team in the Eastern Conference, and shot a paltry .410 from 3P this season.
So what about this year? I'm pretty confident that if the media pieces are right, Jabari Walker is going to be one of those draft day sliders that will wind up being a solid rotation player. And if PBJ really does slip out of the first round, like many are saying, he's a no-brainer.
People keep talking about the Spurs dealing one of their FRP's. One direction I haven't read anyone talk about is trading down with one of them. Say to Indiana or Orlando or Toronto, for 31 or 32 or 33, and a future lottery-protected 1st. There are several guys in this draft that I think will be playing in the NBA by 2023 that will likely be available in the early 2nd round, if the Spurs don't want another rookie scale contract on the books.
Yes, they have. And they're developing talent and fitting in FA pieces too. As much as I cannot stand them, Memphis is setting itself up for years of success.
They have a pretty cap good situation too. Could easily be layers this offseason if they wanted to by moving Adams last year and renouncing fathead and Tyus Jones would give them 35mm to play with.
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