Moving into the Top Ten or Lottery

[Ignazzz]

Let’s take a shot.
BEn’s contract can be very very helpfull next Year to bring SS via trade.
Perfect filler ( contract year 40.000.000 ) for other team to clear cap space in place Of some SS like Doncic ( trade request ?).
The best part is that spurs can get extra assets from Nets now( picks) or / and get rewarded if BEn’s game be solid or better

[Ignazzz]

There is no other way to bring for example Doncic for picks without fillers. His personality is risk but well recognized now. Any surprise. Go with us BEn or out.

[Frenchfred]

There is no other way to bring for example Doncic for picks without fillers

Dallas will get better offers than Simons with a lot of 1st picks

[Ignazzz]

Dallas will get better offers than Simons with a lot of 1st picks

Without filler it is impossible to make an offer. BEn plus our prospect plus picks
so no offer at all or offer with one extra asset ( from nets). What if spurs bring Back BEn high lvl?

[Frenchfred]

Without filler it is impossible to make an offer. BEn plus our prospect plus picks

I agree about the filler. Who would the prospect be, Vassel?

[RC_Drunkford]

Man are y‘all crazy? Sending out a prospect and a pick for Ben Simmons??? I‘d want 2 picks just to take on his contract. Gtfoh

[Ignazzz]

I agree about the filler. Who would the prospect be, Vassel?

For Doncic everyone except VW and Coyote

[Ignazzz]

Man are y‘all crazy? Sending out a prospect and a pick for Ben Simmons??? I‘d want 2 picks just to take on his contract. Gtfoh

for Doncic next Year. Not for BEn

[Frenchfred]

Man are y‘all crazy? Sending out a prospect and a pick for Ben Simmons??? I‘d want 2 picks just to take on his contract. Gtfoh

not a prospect, McDermott, that's what I read in one article so essentially a pick for Simons.

[Ignazzz]

RC this way

Ben AND 1rd for cap space and Doug
One Year with spurs. 50/50. BEn is healed or toxic and Lost
trade BEn next Year as filler with assets for SS ( better BEn means less extra assets)
Only way from financial point Of view

[Ignazzz]

Nets 21st pick 2023 can help

[Frenchfred]

For Doncic everyone except VW and Coyote

I guess you're right, that's a gamble. Jeopardizing cap space for two years if it doesn't pan out.

[Ignazzz]

New rules in CBA Soon. We have to sign somebody anyway. Do we want anorher Like Doug’s deal?

[Ignazzz]

I guess you're right, that's a gamble. Jeopardizing cap space for two years if it doesn't pan out.

last shot with Ben and 21 st pick in JHS or Coulibaly or Rupert as bonus? No brainer
remember our SC is better in this scenario if Doug 14+14 is added to nets. Maybe someone extra?

Nets offer is ( from SI) Doug and pick swap for nets.
We should push harder or wait and try deal with pick to spurs.

[Mnky]

I’m pretty annoyed with the constant need to throw Keldon under the bus. He’s the exact kinda player who produces consistently that a playoff team like us needs. I don’t mind over paying with picks but I think we’d be stupid to give up Keldon and picks. Unless it’s wildly to our benefit.

The most valuable part of this team, now that you have a centerpiece, is that we already have built in high production players that fit the system. Keldon and Vassell getting approx 18ppg and taking pressure off of Wemby is more valuable than taking a swipe at a prospective pg.

With that said I think Black is a perfect fit and Cason looks real good too. Package up some picks. I don’t mind two first and a swap or two if the FO really likes one if them.

But it’s dumb to give up a pick or two and a 20ppg scorer who can drive and shoot effectively. Who also happens to be a great fit on our team culturally and chemistry wise.

Keldon is extremely inconsistent. He has not been consistent anything but team chemistry and fit, which is also why I value him as well. As a player, he led the team to the bottom of the league. With the green light to do what he wanted, his inconsistencies were great.

Wemby is the priority if he is indeed a franchise player. You do what's best for him, period. You don't waste his time with players that don't contribute to his growth or comfort. That being said, keldon would be good with Wemby if he had a consistent shot. It's just so erratic, I don't see him as a non touchable in the slightest bit.

He's still young. Younger than a few prospects people think the spurs should have drafted last year. He has valuable experience and chemistry. It's good to have him on what will definitely be a value contract.

However, if you can get a cornerstone running mate or upgrade for Wemby, you do it with anyone on the roster and you don't think twice. It's Wembys team. Team only goes as far as he takes them.

[mo7888]

not a prospect, McDermott, that's what I read in one article so essentially a pick for Simons.

You receive picks (plural) for taking on Simmons...the Nets know that...it's just a matter of how many and how high they are likely to be..

[DPG21920]

Toronto not pick could be as high as 7. Should be nothing else needed to get into the top 10

If so great - trade that into the top 10. Works for me.

[Frenchfred]

RC this way

Ben AND 1rd for cap space and Doug
One Year with spurs. 50/50. BEn is healed or toxic and Lost
trade BEn next Year as filler with assets for SS ( better BEn means less extra assets)
Only way from financial point Of view

they mention a pick swap in this article not a pick from the Nets

https://www.si.com/nba/spurs/news/sa...tor-wembanyama

[TD 21]

I wouldn't do the following (too clunky for my liking), but it checks a lot of boxes, particularly if you subscribe to the notion that Wembanyama should almost always play next to another C and that they need another established rotational one . . .

Johnson and a future 1st for the 5th pick (Ausar Thompson) and Stewart.

Starters: Wembanyama, Sochan, Collins, Vassell, Jones

Bench: Branham, Stewart, Thompson, McDermott, Graham

Deep bench/G-League: Bassey, Wesley, Mamukelashvili?, Champagnie?, Barlow?, Birch?, 33rd pick?

[Frenchfred]

I wouldn't do the following (too clunky for my liking), but it checks a lot of boxes, particularly if you subscribe to the notion that Wembanyama should almost always play next to another C and that they need another established rotational one . . .

Johnson and a future 1st for the 5th pick (Ausar Thompson) and Stewart.

Starters: Wembanyama, Sochan, Collins, Vassell, Jones

Bench: Branham, Stewart, Thompson, McDermott, Graham

Deep bench/G-League: Bassey, Wesley, Mamukelashvili?, Champagnie?, Barlow?, Birch?, 33rd pick?

That's pretty good. Maybe lacking some vets in there.

[Mr. Body]

As much as I doubt the Spurs would trade Keldon this offseason, I'm pretty close to 100% they wouldn't exile him to the Detroit Pistons. Even if it means getting a good prospect, regardless of who that is. They seem to be very keen on getting their good soldiers to compe ive teams with fit -- White to Boston, Murray to Atlanta, Poeltl back to Toronto. After all the Keldon's been through, I can't think they'll stick him in an even worse situation.

[Ariel]

As much as I doubt the Spurs would trade Keldon this offseason, I'm pretty close to 100% they wouldn't exile him to the Detroit Pistons. Even if it means getting a good prospect, regardless of who that is. They seem to be very keen on getting their good soldiers to compe ive teams with fit -- White to Boston, Murray to Atlanta, Poeltl back to Toronto. After all the Keldon's been through, I can't think they'll stick him in an even worse situation.

I don't think the Spurs would do wrong by a player they drafted and just signed a friendly, long term deal, by shipping him out unilaterally. Much like it happened with Dejounte, I think he'd have to be ok with it.

[Ariel]

Johnson and a future 1st for the 5th pick (Ausar Thompson) and Stewart.

Detroit would rather draft Cam Whitmore outright, who's basically a bigger, stronger, and much more explosive Keldon. He's much more of a Troy Weaver kind of guy.

[Mr. Body]

I don't think the Spurs would do wrong by a player they drafted and just signed a friendly, long term deal, by shipping him out unilaterally. Much like it happened with Dejounte, I think he'd have to be ok with it.

Hmm... I thought both White and Murray were surprised by their trades? It just happened to be perfect spots for both of them. White got an excellent playoff team, Dejounte got strip bars.

[Ariel]

Hmm... I thought both White and Murray were surprised by their trades? It just happened to be perfect spots for both of them. White got an excellent playoff team, Dejounte got strip bars.

Dejounte wasn't surprised at all, he even said he was in on the talks all along, had talked to Trae and everything. White was surprised, though. But the big difference here is Keldon JUST SIGNED an extension, he's not 2 years into it. If you trade him unilaterally to somewhere he's not ok with immediately after his extension kicks in, you're sending a horrible message for every rookie extension that follows.