Yup, he’s making rookie mistakes in Year 6.
On the contrary, contenders or even playoff teams CAN care less about stupid losses because the regular season is becoming less and less important. Meanwhile for *aspiring*,which I would like to think we are, play-in teams need every bit of wins especially early on.
Echoing Timtonymanu here, clock is ticking. These guys need to actually play meaningful games. This organization is trending in to producing career losers.
Only the losers on Reddit who think we owe players to stick around because of their culture want to keep him. God I wish that Lauri trade went through.
Yeah the guy can put up a few impressive scoring games every month but it’s fools gold.
This guys processing speed on the court is so bad. His basketball brain can only comprehend 1 or 2 things at a time. “Get ball, look at basket, drive as hard as I can in straight line towards basket, when defender steps in front, bump into him and shoot basketball and scream hoping for foul call”. There’s really nothing else that goes on up in his head.
Is anyone saying Champagnie should start when everyone's healthy?
He's a great bench shooter to have on the roster and can start when we're shorthanded.
Even though he'll never be anything more than that, he's 5th/6th best plyer on the roster, which says a lot about this team.
This team is full of losers. I'm not sure why you're singling out Johnson. Players don't tank, coaches do. Assemble a team with minimal talent, expect minimal results. Wemby is the ONLY player on the Spur's roster that would start for a contending playoff team. They're absolutely trying to win but a poor coaching staff and the absolute tiness of this roster is what gives them the appearance that they're not.
ing monster game from wemby.
Dumbass coach failing to challenge the out of bounds call on castle lost them the game tonight.
When you play with your food you end up choking.
You’re right, but I singled out Keldon because he’s been here the longest and has been exposed to nothing but losing basketball. His game never got to evolve.
FWIW I don’t agree with you that Wemby is the only starter level player on another team. I think Vassell is legit.
Finally wemby showed up and had a good game! Hopefully it countinues until the end of season. Consistency is the key.
Just got home and am going to watch the game. Looks like Wemby was much improved shooting 3s, which impacts the box score... but I'm curious to find out how he only made two 2pt FGs. I'll withhold judgement until I watch, but my initial reaction is that it's still not great that 60% of his FG attempts were 3-pointers.
Into the depths of I go...
We aren't aspiring yet.
We are struggling against tanking teams, and get our doors blown off against good teams.
Vassell just came back, but now we are still missing Jones and Sochan...and Pop. Wemby is also struggling, and the team just isn't that good.
I'm fine accepting the fact that this is going to be another losing year. Making the play-in doesn't really do this team much good because we will get our asses handed to us against any serious playoff team.
He's legit but most playoff teams would probably have him coming of the bench in a 6th man type role. He's really struggled at times defensively.
We'll have to agree to disagree. It's ok ^^
I find him too limited, the balance is too often negative for a cple good performances here and there that spurs fans overrate imo. I'm not reffering only to his 3pt % but overall low BBIQ and court awareness
But i'm fine with him this season bc he's cheap and not a long term project (I hope)
Being cheap is exactly why he's good value.
Good for 12-15mpg when we start competing.
Noone is giving up a FRP for Champagnie, so what exactly would be the point in trading him?
We got like 20 SRPs already.
He's on $3M a year and is worth maybe 8 to 10, that's good value for us.
Champ is on the lower end of this team’s current problems. He will have good games and bad. It’s not like how we’re paying Keldon at a more expensive price while he provides the same worth as Champ on a nightly basis.
We still don’t have a viable option at SF so we alternate between Champ and Barnes. Neither has been godawful that we need to bench them but they would also be good options off the bench.
Castle/?
Devin/Champ
?/?
Jeremy/? (or even another starter, with Jeremy as 6th man)
Wemby/?
That's how I see our roster.
We need a backup PG who's a legit triple threat scorer, one good 3-D wing, one legit scorer wing and Wemby's backup.
Bingo. It didn’t look like our guys were struggling as much as it did they were just going through motions. Bit them right in the butt
Which was foolish cause they’re still one of the least talented teams in the league. No game is guaranteed.
Having now watched the condensed game (and thus missed a lot of nuance that is on skipped possessions)... I want to ask - is this the offensive game we want to see?
The 3pt shot selection looked much better today, and that's a great sign. However, his offensive impact still largely depended on him having a plus-variance shooting performance of 6 for 9 from 3. If he goes 4/9 we're looking at an 18 pt performance, if he goes 3/9 (which would be closer to expectation), then it's a 15 point performance. Only two 2pt FGs seems to indicate that the offense is still not functioning in a way that puts him in positions where his size provides a huge advantage. Of course, he also had 6 turnovers.
So, honest question... is this the Wemby you want to see on the offensive end? Basically if he has a great shooting night, his stat-line will be very impressive and if he has an average shooting night it will be less so and we probably lose by a bigger margin. If he has a terrible shooting night, we lose big.
good return by Vassell ... Castle and Wemby had a good shooting night and still the offense sucked (also too many TOs again)
how are they not able to create one dunk for Wemby all night (that counted)?
just got back from the game. I had fun with the kids but the game itself was just very disappointing.
i think what got me most frustrated was their continuous reliance on the outside shot with negative results and as soon as they would try something inside it would lead to success. when its not going in, stop shooting them.
I haven't been to a game in a few years, but that was just irritating to watch. Its fine when a team just plain beats you but this team just takes bad shot after bad shot.
The good:
-Vassell looked good overall. I was glad to see him back in.
-When Castle drives i expect good things to happen.
-Victor defense is pretty awesome to see, especially at the end when he had a couple of blocks in 1 possession.
The bad:
-Spurs offense
-Wemby, anytime he puts the ball on the floor i cringe
-Paul when hes not hitting shots, he was useless. He made a lot of mistakes too. Making late passes and had some mental lapses.
overall, they just weren't ready to play.
For me, no no no.
One one end, whenever there was a mismatch, you would see the Utah bigs taking advantage and just bullying their way to the basket for an easy basket.
Then when wemby has a clear size advantage over his defender, instead moving around and trying for better position closer ot the basketball, he positions himself deliberately 20ft away from the basket and then asks for the ball. He then does a couple between the leg dribbles which sometimes ends up in a shot or other times a turnover. I cringe when i see it though.
I think only once or twice i saw him take it down low and just score with ease on the defender. I remember saying finally!
the one problem with wemby’s offense is he doesn’t know how to draw foul to get to the freethrow line. 10 FTA per game is good +8 to +10 on his points.
Yuuup. Beating those scrub Blazers must have gone to their heads
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