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    I mean my dude you're acting like everyone else is assuming when you're making the biggest assumptions of them all in the wildest manner of all. You're acting like your chosen pathway to support your narrative is somehow infallible.
    No, I'm acting like it doesn't have a zero-percent success rate.

    Sure Chinook, you diagnosed cancer while the rest of us all just watched the Mavs build a team that went to the finals and then blow it up 8 months later. You got it man.
    Nah, I think you guys are having a tumor waved under your nose and are pretending you can't smell it.

    But yes, I did firmly have this stance last year as well. Yes, all les are legitimate, and if Dallas would've won, they would've had every right to hang that banner. But running the table against a young team like OKC and a ty team like Minnesota (and an perpetually injured team like LAC) isn't exactly something that requires a legit contender. It's like how Rockets fans pat themselves on the back for almost winning a third game against the Warriors in 2019 while ignoring the West was basically decimated that year.

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    In 2030 when spurs have a pick swap with mavs, AD will be 36 turning 37 that season. Kyrie will be 37 turning 38. They won't be good.

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    Keith Smith on the front office show saying Luka did not ask to be traded, the Mavericks did this on their own. Mavericks APPROACHED THE LAKERS with this.

    One of the dumbest, most offsided trades in history... wtf are the Mavericks thinking?
    I think Mavs are better...Lukas playstyle looks good for him, but not so good for others...his success had a ceiling and I'm not sure if he would have even made the finals again...sounds crazy, but watch...dude isn't coachable and only plsys one way

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    LeBron runs through stars more than a ho...that's y I don't have him top 5....imagine if Duncan ran to team up with kobe and Shaq, and KG and Iverson and every star under the sun...he would easily have 10 rings...LeBron constantly needs stars to help him instead of actually making his teammates great

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    To be fair, Davis does have real value. Folks are treating him like he's basically filler, but he'd be in the top 10-20 assets in the league. While I don't think the Lakers would've won a true bidding war, Davis and a first beats out a lot of other teams' best offers.

    That said, Dallas has no path to a le with an Irving/Thompson/Davis core. They REALLY should be looking to sell off at this point.
    Conspiracies aside, it sounds like the Mavs wanted to offload Luka and specifically targeted Davis for his fit with the team. And agree that AD is a top 15, maybe even top 10 player today. But what a unnecessary move to trade your entire future for an uncertain 2 year championship window that still would have been there with Luka. Mavs owners definitely didn't want to pay Luka.

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    Conspiracies aside, it sounds like the Mavs wanted to offload Luka and specifically targeted Davis for his fit with the team. And agree that AD is a top 15, maybe even top 10 player today. But what a unnecessary move to trade your entire future for an uncertain 2 year championship window that still would have been there with Luka. Mavs owners definitely didn't want to pay Luka.
    Honestly think twolves trade Edwards and Gobert for Luka and matching salary. Luka is such a weapon. The Mavs could have targeted anyone they wanted minus a few.

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    Imagine being the Lakers. Dallas asks for Reaves to be included but you’re like nope, not him, you can have Christie
    Also Utah taking on an unwanted Lakers salary and you be like hey Dallas we split the price - one second from each right? I can’t …

    Obviously this a black swan situation and not a proof that everyone is available but I have to wonder what it’d take to get Maxey if Embiid is legit broken.

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    WHAT THE ACTUAL

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    Dallas punched through OKC with Gafford and Lively beating them up. OKC has trouble with Anthony Davis, a lot. But that was with Doncic.

    I don't get what the Lakers do to build a team around Doncic. Word seems to be that LeBron didn't even know about this trade. Whether he did or not doesn't matter. It's a junk roster. LBJ and fat Doncic probably doesn't get you very far. They don't have many assets to use at this point.

    But I guess you just collude your way into a supporting cast or something.
    Lakers are punting on this season. They never had a chance to contend even with Lebron-AD this year. The Lakers are more invested in the long term with this trade. They wanted a young superstar to build their franchise around and a way to pivot away from Lebron. This situation works out great for the Lakers because now it's not likely Lebron will return to them next year knowing they can't contend with what they have. They finally get rid of Lebron while having a young superstar that can sell tickets as they rebuild their team. Plus, Lakers will luck out with some random disgruntled star player who will try to force a trade there in the next year or two. Once that happens, they will be set. Lakers don't build teams they steal talent.

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    Lakers are punting on this season. They never had a chance to contend even with Lebron-AD this year. The Lakers are more invested in the long term with this trade. They wanted a young superstar to build their franchise around and a way to pivot away from Lebron. This situation works out great for the Lakers because now it's not likely Lebron will return to them next year knowing they can't contend with what they have. They finally get rid of Lebron while having a young superstar that can sell tickets as they rebuild their team. Plus, Lakers will luck out with some random disgruntled star player who will try to force a trade there in the next year or two. Once that happens, they will be set. Lakers don't build teams they steal talent.
    Yeah no . The fact that got the third best trade chip in nba that has people rioting.

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    Seriously this trade is half baked. It should have included Gafford and Reaves instead of Kleber and Christie. It’s like they were told you have 30 seconds to complete a Doncic trade Go!

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    Astonishing ... guess the Mavericks think Luka's body is not holding up ... trading for AD is funny in that regard though

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    Tbh, if AD can remain healthy, the Mavs can contend this year with a core of Erving, Klay and AD! Sure in 2-3 years the Mavs will be in rebuild mode.

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    Cmon it so easy to build around fat Luka, your offense is pretty much set in the playoffs. Rim runners and stiff 3 and D are cheap and the small lead guard is available every transaction cycle and late 1st. This does not make sense. Not even shopping him or leaking to have leverage.

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    at this point, no wanting a dirty foreigner to be the face of your franchise because deep MAGA brain rot, is just as viable a reason for why this happened.
    WTF are you even talking about?

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    The most shocking trade ever, tbh.

    As already said, unless Mavs know something we don't, they got fleeced.
    You don't trade for a 6 years older player, even if you think Luka and AD are on same level ability wise.
    If he doesn't have chronic health issues, this will go down as one of the worst trades in history.

    And even if he does have health issues, they traded him for AD of all players.
    If they don't win this or the next season, this trade is a failure, AD has 2 or 3 years left in him at the most.
    I actually think they'll be a legit conteder this season if they figure things out right away.

    As for the Lakers, we're never getting rid of the worst fanbase in sports, are we?

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    Mavs only get 1 FRP for 25 years old Luka with 5 or 6 All NBA 1st team under his belt?

    Did Luka ed the wives of Mavs top management? Or he has degenerating "Brandon Roy" muscle issues?

    If is about drinking beers and weight issues, this dude is still putting up near 30pts triple double. He is putting up Jokic number but at the PG position. Mavs ed up

    How did Jazz get 4 FRP for Gobert and Nets get 5 FRP for Mikal Bridges?

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    Mavs only get 1 FRP for 25 years old Luka with 5 or 6 All NBA 1st team under his belt?

    Did Luka ed the wives of Mavs top management?

    How did Jazz get 4 FRP for Gobert and Nets get 5 FRP for Mikal Bridges?
    Because AD is a top10 player in the league?

    Also, another hillarious thing in all this is Danny Ainge yet again overplaying his hands.
    Jazz own LAL '27 FRP, it just lost almost all of it's value.


    Btw, didn't Nico Harrison up negotiations with Steph while he was at Nike, resulting in Steph taking UA's offer?

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    What?!?

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    A couple of people have remarked upon it but it's really the key to this trade being fishy.

    There's no reason to do it 5 days before the deadline. Was the deal somehow going to get worse? Were the Lakers about to take JHS or Christie off the table? Going to walk away?

    It's a scam insider trade like with Pau which also was well before the deadline. Like the Lakers were going to walk away and take Crittendon off the table.

    The only reason to rush into a deal like this is to keep level headed people from killing it once they find out.

    Nico must have a special relationship beyond basketball to cram it through like this.

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    Mavs GM will be the next Lakers GM after Pelinka leave

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    The only reason to rush into a deal like this is to keep level headed people from killing it once they find out.
    Cuban bought one of the worst franchises in the league, developed them into one of the more respected ones over 20 years and it took them just over a year to throw all that away after he sold the team.
    No way this would've been allowed if he was in charge.

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    Maybe mavs will let Lively go for a bag of chips now

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