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Why?? Simply cause they are in the public eye.... If you had your way we'd be reading your "conservative haiku's" in our local papers.... how is that any different....
It's about 10 pages...
Why?? Simply cause they are in the public eye.... If you had your way we'd be reading your "conservative haiku's" in our local papers.... how is that any different....
LOL
this all comes down to who has the most vbookie
since smeagol and mr dio have no opinion
I WIN
Lakewood certainly was different under John Osteen. It was more wrapped up in the Prosperity Gospel/Word of Faith heresy back then, but the people were more genuine, more involved, more willing to serve. Strangely, for people who were convinced God was going to make them materially rich one day, they didn't seem to care all that much about material things. It was more, "Well, God's got that taken care of, don't have to worry about, I'm worry about other things." Maybe it was just the ones I knew. Maybe despite the bad teaching the Spirit of God was still there back then.
Now Joel has just dumbed it down to a Dr. Phil motivational speech each week, made it slicker, with better packaging, more entertainment, the "prestige" of being a Lakewood member, etc. They pack in tens of thousands, but it's like going to a concert or a basketball game now. There are no demands or challenges placed on anybody if they don't want them. With a church that size, the economies of scale kick in and they really don't need that many people to serve -- just put butts in the seats. It's just a business now.
No doubt. Who wants to hear that faith won't make someone rich, healthy, beautiful or charming? Who wants to hear that faith is not easy and that they will be ridiculed for it? Who wants to be a martyr for their faith? Who wants to believe that they may endure a debilitating disease or an excrutiating death despite their faith?
it is not the job of pastors or preachers to be so paid outWhy?? Simply cause they are in the public eye.... If you had your way we'd be reading your "conservative haiku's" in our local papers.... how is that any different
and I would bet my life olsteen aint hurtin
hes a pimp
That's the thing. Where's the connection between the pastor and his flock? The larger the church, the less the personal connection becomes. This is more of a personal preference, but I think there is a limit to how big a congregation a minister can serve effectively.
Then please tell me who so I can apologize. Or are just speculating without knowing anything about me?Nice joke. A better joke is you trying to say you have never acted wrong towards anyone or anything in your life. That's some funny stuff.
I mean, think about it. This guy has a congregation in the tens (if not hundreds) of thousands and on the Tuesday before Xmas he's rolling on up to Vail for some skiing. I don't know about you, but the ministers I've known have been snowed under this time of year.
sw quit with the judgement
youre not god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm still not touching your, um, "chode" though.
My weakness for impulse purchases doesn't make her any less of a spoiled, selfish primadonna. If someone would like to start a thread on the sin of impulse buying, I'll be happy to repent.
I plead guilty to this sin....
If one guy touches another guys chode, they're both gay. One for willfully touching a chode, another for willfully letting a guy touch his chode.
If I were sitting next to mookie on a plane and he started talking about his chode, I seriously would pull a Mrs. Joel Osteen.
Not at all. Just going off of what the bible says in the book of Romans.
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Maybe it was someone's chode that was actually on her fold-down tray that caused her to freak out so?
I can certainly understand this point of view....
It's unfortunate, and like someone mentioned earlier, "most that tend to go through the motions" look for the high profile church to do it in.... sad fact.
Smaller churches in general tend to be more genuine in this regard... people are accountable for trying to do charitable and "Christ-like" works... In the bigger churches people (not everyone) just lazily give their money and expect others to do the 'dirty' work....
Anyways, God will hold us accountable for our actions in the end...
I cant go more than a few hours until I have to say the word chode
honestly
and I won't let me and marcus' past differences of opinions (on every subject know to man) stand in the way of reaching my dreams
I'm pretty sure the tray would break if there were a chode on it. And that would be a pretty uncomfortable position.
You found it a joke when I said that I've never treated anyone like that yet have no proof to the contrary...so yes, you did.
She, on the otherhand, left it out there for everyone to see.
not to sound stuckup
but yall really dont know about chodes
its pitiful
the majority of people who post that word on ST have little to elementary chode knowledge
You can touch your chode and you can touch your friends but you can't touch your friend's chode?
the majority of people who post that word on ST have little to elementary chode knowledge
Is it anything like Quan?
Then if I'm ever on a plane sitting next to you, I expect fair warning. If somebody pull a Mrs. Joel Osteen on a plane who is not a Republican Pioneer, W wiretaps their phone.
Mrs. Osteen is a Pioneer, so she's OK.
I don't know you you'll recognize me though because I'm white and all us white people look alike.
Believe what you want. Whatever makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside is cool with me.You found it a joke when I said that I've never treated anyone like that yet have no proof to the contrary...so yes, you did.
She, on the otherhand, left it out there for everyone to see.
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