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    Umm, pretty much the same as with SA except for his contract year.
    I know that this is a sure-fire one-way ticket to pointlessness, so my last comment will be that he consistenly got better numbers yearly under Flip as his minutes went up.

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    Man, no offense, but the more you post about basketball the more I wonder what you watch.
    Difference of opinion, I guess.

    He played a huge part in us winning that Nuggets series. He has helped bang against tough low post presences. He's not that bright, but he's a very physical/aggressive player.



    Call it what it is, say he has bad hands and is out of place. You can a lot worse about other centers in the league. There has to be a reason the Spurs left the door open to bring him back (granted at the right price). There has to be a reason Joe Dumars brought him in for that much money (which may be too much, but you get the idea).

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    I know that this is a sure-fire one-way ticket to pointlessness, so my last comment will be that he consistenly got better numbers yearly under Flip as his minutes went up.

    And Rasho > Nazr

    So they should have.

    Nazr's been in the league how long?

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    And with that, we have reached our destination.

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    I mean Rasho > Nazr in terms of offense.

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    nazr only $6M when rasho is making around 7 or 8 M? that's cheap i think

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    nazr only $6M when rasho is making around 7 or 8 M? that's cheap i think
    Nazr will be making the MLE this upcoming season (~$5.4M). Rasho is making around $7.3M (his contract started out around 5.6M I believe).

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    Hopefully now the Spurs will get someone Pop will actually play in a series against the Mavs.

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    Hopefully now the Spurs will get someone Pop will actually play in a series against the Mavs.

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    No centers, my how the mighty have fallen.

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    No centers, my how the mighty have fallen.
    Yeah, Spurs have no centers now. Yeah.

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    According to my son this signing rules the Pistons out of signing Bonzi, is that correct?

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    No centers, my how the mighty have fallen.
    What centers? We haven't had centers for a long time.

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    According to my son this signing rules the Pistons out of signing Bonzi, is that correct?

    Yep he's spot on.

    We used our full MLE on Nazr, and It doesn't sound like we have the LLE ... even if we did, it wouldn't be anywhere close to enough for Bonzi.

    I suppose there is always a chance of a trade. But it's highly unlikely.

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    Tonight on Ch. 11 Maximum Sports' Chuck Miketinac said that one source reported that Nazr was gone (from the Spurs) either way. He privately was that sour on the Spurs for his diminished role late in the season. That would explain a lot because the Spurs were offering Nazr roughly what he got today.

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    That would explain a lot because the Spurs were offering Nazr roughly what he got today.
    I've been wondering about that. So they're saying that he left because of PT? I hadn't noticed anything about what if anything SA offered him. If it's the same money, I have to assume that he just wants to play more. Not like he can about the orginization.

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    No centers, my how the mighty have fallen.
    How many championships do you guys have again?

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    Well what else is left? Evans? Pollard? Tsakalidis? HITA?

    Right now best I can tell we're operating under the guise of being cheap instead of working to make sure this team gets back to the Finals next year.

    If you lived in Dallas, you'd understand how much the weeks following our series sucked.


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    Tonight on Ch. 11 Maximum Sports' Chuck Miketinac said that one source reported that Nazr was gone (from the Spurs) either way. He privately was that sour on the Spurs for his diminished role late in the season. That would explain a lot because the Spurs were offering Nazr roughly what he got today.
    Did the Spurs even offer him anything this summer?

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    http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/b....265c9d48.html

    UPDATED: Nazr Mohammed goes to Detroit

    Web Posted: 07/04/2006 09:49 PM CDT
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    The Spurs crossed two more centers off their list Tuesday, including one of their own, secure they will eventually find someone to stand next to Tim Duncan.

    Less than two weeks after trading Rasho Nesterovic, the Spurs bid farewell to the second half of their center tandem after Nazr Mohammed reached agreement with Detroit on a contract that guarantees him close to $24 million over the next four seasons. The Pistons also are believed to hold an option for a fifth season, which, if picked up, would add about another $7 million to the deal.

    Mohammed can't sign the contract until July 12, when the NBA lifts its free-agent moratorium.

    Acquired in a trade that sent Malik Rose to New York in February 2005, Mohammed started every game of the Spurs' championship run that season. He lost his starting job to Nesterovic at the start of last season, regained it after the All-Star break then lost it again during the playoffs.

    "We're happy for Nazr; I think he got the contract he was looking for," Spurs general manager R.C. Buford said. "We certainly appreciate the contributions he made to our program. He was an important part of our championship."

    Mohammed's new contract is expected to start at slightly less than the $5.5 million he made last season. During training camp, the Spurs discussed a four-year extension that would have averaged about the same before Mohammed suspended those talks, saying he wanted to seek a five-year deal in free agency.

    Though Mohammed's new contract is close to the league's average salary, the Spurs were hesitant about committing long-term money to him when Duncan's deal is scheduled to expire in four seasons. He totaled only 15 minutes during the team's second-round loss to Dallas – one more sign of the Spurs' willingness to play small in the up-tempo Western Conference.

    Mohammed's agreement came after Joel Przybilla turned down an offer from the Pistons and returned to Portland for a five-year contract worth close to $32 million. Przybilla was expected to sign with Detroit, which offered comparable money to the Trail Blazers. His agent, Bill Duffy, even thought he was leaning toward joining the Pistons late Monday.

    When it became clear Tuesday morning Przybilla had doubts about Detroit, Pistons officials quickly made an offer to Mohammed.

    The Spurs also were among the teams Przybilla considered, but — unlike Portland and Detroit — were unwilling to offer a five-year contract.

    The departure of Mohammed and Nesterovic leaves the Spurs without a true center on their roster, though Duncan will play some minutes at the position. The team also will sign 6-foot-10 Lithuanian Robertas Javtokas, a former second-round draft pick, but doesn't consider him a serious candidate for the starting job.

    Though the Spurs have 11 players under contract, not including Javtokas, team officials view the roster as "a work in progress." They remain optimistic about finding a fifth starter and are hopeful it will be a center, which is one reason why, for now, they still seem unlikely to sign Argentine forward Luis Scola.

    Utah's Jarron Collins and Memphis' Lorenzen Wright are probably the top remaining free-agent centers in a shallow pool that also includes Scot Pollard, Michael Olowokandi, Jake Voskuhl, Kelvin Cato and Melvin Ely and Jackie Butler, both of whom are restricted.

    Collins earned only $1.7 million last season, making him an affordable option. But the Jazz also hope to re-sign him. The Spurs also will continue to explore trades. Milwaukee is trying to move Jamaal Magloire, but it's yet to be determined whether the Spurs have enough assets — namely Brent Barry and Scola's rights — to make any deal.

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    Nevermind.

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    Though Mohammed's new contract is close to the league's average salary, the Spurs were hesitant about committing long-term money to him when Duncan's deal is scheduled to expire in four seasons. . . The Spurs also were among the teams Przybilla considered, but — unlike Portland and Detroit — were unwilling to offer a five-year contract.
    Looks like the spurs are unwilling to give anyone more then 4 years so they have alot of cap room in 4 years.

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    Looks like the spurs are unwilling to give anyone more then 4 years so they have alot of cap room in 4 years.
    They'll have a lot of caproom after 4 seasons no matter what. The only person signed after 2009-10 is Tony

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    Though Mohammed's new contract is close to the league's average salary, the Spurs were hesitant about committing long-term money to him when Duncan's deal is scheduled to expire in four seasons.
    So the Spurs are looking to blow up the team in four seasons or what?

    It sounds like the Spurs have set their next date that they want to have salary cap room again.

    Sweet!


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    It makes no sense to complain about NBA teams not locking up mediocre players for more than 3-4 years. When was the last time the Spurs kept someone who wasn't a key player that long anyhow? The Spurs don't have to rebuild nearly as often as other teams in the leauge because of they way they manage their payroll.

    The Spurs FO isn't perfect and they might be better off spending a bit more money in a few places, but the fact is that they aren't done and I think they made a good call in this situation. 4 years from now this team may have to go in an entirely new direction and having your option opens is a damn good thing.

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