ESPN Top 10 Centers

[whottt]

It's from the Thomson-Gale library archives. Still searching for a byline.

You do that...

....Your mother's blood encrusted year old tampon wrote it.

You wrote it? That's even worse than Wikipedia.

Go yourself.

I'm not done ing you yet.

[lefty]

Shaq = way overrated ; take away his brute strength and his elbowing in the face , and u are left with nothing.

Sure, Jordan took advantage of his athleticism ; Iverson uses his quickness ; but those guys can do other things too...

And don't get me started on the "Shaq has become an excellent passer over the years , wow..." I mean, when a much smaller guy comes to help, Shaq is supposed to make an adequate pass to an open guy, so nothing amazing there; when it comes to passing, he is no Walton or Sabonis....

Speaking of Sabonis, if it wasn't for political reasons, he should have joined the Blazers earlier, when he was younger and healtier ; we all aknowledge his talents and the way he sees the game ; when I was living in Europe, I watched Sabonis (Euroleague games) : the guy was running and dunking like D-Rob, no kidding !!!! combine that with his amzing talents, and Jordan wouldn't have won in the early 90's

[whottt]

Go read my post in this thread

I read it...it's Beno level of Drob defense. But you're showing signs of improvement.

I give you props because I know that to truly advocate Drob you put the knife in the back of one of your favorites. But it still a ways off from reality.


I cannot belive people when evaluating C cannot see the difference guys like Wade, Kobe, Drexler etc meant to their bigmen over guys like Vinny and AJ.

[whottt]

John Lucas was trying to increase Robinson's competetive fire, because Dave didn't give a about scoring les, or NBA les for that matter. It sort of backfired because Robinson was used up for the playoffs, and the Spurs got eliminated by an inferior squad (again). This time a team of guys that got a lot of rest at the end of the year.

Worst take in the history of Spurs talk...


You must be on some serious ing crack if you think Drob was the reason that 93-94 team lost in the playoffs.

Vinny Del Negro was the ing starting PG on that team.

Did you look at who David's guards were in that Clipper game?

Vinny Del Nego and Lloyd Daniels?


And you think that team lost to an inferior team?

That had Karl Malone, John Stockton, Jeff Hornacek, Tom Chambers?


Worst post ever. Take the side arguing against Drob please...if you think that team was inferior to the Spurs squad.

Don't let the fact that Drob carried that lump of to 50 wins misguide you...that's what Drob did, that none of these other guys could.

He was just good enough to get his ty team in over their heads.

[SRJ]

whott is defending Dave admirably, but I'd just like to add that in 1994, when Robinson led the league in scoring, he led the team in assists. That particular double is quite rare. It shouldn't have happened considering the players Dave had to pass to.

[Don Quixote]

You must be on some serious crack if you think Drob was the reason that 93-94 team lost in the playoffs.

Vinny Del Negro was the starting PG on that team.

Did you look at who David's guards were in that Clipper game?

Vinny Del Nego and Lloyd Daniels?

And you think that team lost to an inferior team? That had Karl Malone, John Stockton, Jeff Hornacek, Tom Chambers?

Worst post ever. Take the side arguing against Drob please...if you think that team was inferior to the Spurs squad.

Don't let the fact that Drob carried that lump of plop to 50 wins misguide you...that's what Drob did, that none of these other guys could.

He was just good enough to get his crummy team in over their heads.

Great take.

Those teams under John Lucas were somewhat above average at best. They had David, Sean Elliott, Avery Johnson before he became a great player, and that's about it. It was thanks to Dave that they ever made the playoffs to begin with. Of course, those 50-win Spurs teams were still a whole lot better than those chumps up in Dallas at the time.

[Don Quixote]

whott is defending Dave admirably, but I'd just like to add that in 1994, when Robinson led the league in scoring, he led the team in assists. That particular double is quite rare. It shouldn't have happened considering the players Dave had to pass to.

Did we mention the quadruple-double against the Pistons that year? Or was it the year before? I remember listening to that game on the radio as a teenager. No one's done it since.

[Spurminator]

The 1994 San Antonio Spurs Playoff Roster:

Playoffs
Glossary

                       +-----------------------------------------------------------+------------+------------------+
                       |                           Total                           |  Shooting  |     Per Game     |
                       +-----------------------------------------------------------+------------+------------------+
 Name                  | G   MP  FG FGA  3P 3PA  FT FTA TRB AST STL BLK  TO  PF PTS| FG% 3P% FT%| MP  TRB  AST  PTS|
+----------------------+--+----+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+----+---+---+---+----+----+----+
 David Robinson        | 4  146  30  73   0   1  20  27  40  14   3  10   9  14  80|  41   0  74| 37 10.0  3.5 20.0|
 Dale Ellis            | 4  114  17  43   5  17   3   5  10   1   3   0   4   6  42|  40  29  60| 29  2.5  0.3 10.5|
 Negele Knight         | 4  108  13  41   0   3  11  12   6  12   3   0   7   9  37|  32   0  92| 27  1.5  3.0  9.3|
 Willie Anderson       | 4  106  14  37   1   1   4   7   8  12   5   2   4   7  33|  38 100  57| 27  2.0  3.0  8.3|
 Terry  mings        | 4   72  11  22   0   0  10  12  25   2   5   3   4  10  32|  50      83| 18  6.3  0.5  8.0|
 Vinny Del Negro       | 4   93  12  27   2   4   3   5   7  18   1   0   6   6  29|  44  50  60| 23  1.8  4.5  7.3|
 Dennis Rodman         | 3  114  12  24   0   5   1   6  48   2   6   4   6  14  25|  50   0  17| 38 16.0  0.7  8.3|
 Lloyd Daniels         | 4   66   8  20   4   8   2   2   9   3   0   1   2   4  22|  40  50 100| 17  2.3  0.8  5.5|
 Antoine Carr          | 3   37   5  11   0   0   8   9   1   3   1   2   0   7  18|  45      89| 12  0.3  1.0  6.0|
 J.R. Reid             | 4   56   6  21   0   0   3   5  12   3   1   2   1  10  15|  29      60| 14  3.0  0.8  3.8|
 Jack Haley            | 3   11   4   8   0   0   5   6   7   2   0   0   0   3  13|  50      83|  4  2.3  0.7  4.3|
 Sleepy Floyd          | 4   37   2   8   0   0   2   4   1   1   0   0   4   3   6|  25      50|  9  0.3  0.3  1.5|
+----------------------+--+----+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+----+---+---+---+----+----+----+

[whottt]

David Robinson lead the 93-94 Spurs in:

Probably easier to say what he didn't lead it in...

Rebounding
FT%
3PA
3P%(although he did come in fourth in that shooting 345%...may not be impressive unless you consider the fact that in that AJ never shot that from 3...and the number of threes Drob made that year is about equal to the number AJ made in his entire 19 year career being begged to shoot more than 2 feet outside of the basket by opposing teams).


That inferior Jazz team only had the NBA's all time leading passer, second leading scorer an All Star and a HOF level talent on it.

That's was Drob worst poseason performance ever...I wonder why...the Jazz literally would collapse they entire team on Drob when ever he got the ball.


And the only player on that team that wasn't was Rodman, but he was absolute in that series...and he was so busy trying to get in Madonna's pants Lucas suspended him for a game. He was showing up late to practice, showing up late for pre game, in the playoffs. Madonna and Rodman, nuff said.



To quote John Lucas...that team needed to be out of the playoffs.

[monosylab1k]

You do that...





You wrote it? That's even worse than Wikipedia.






I'm not done ing you yet.

You your mom's year old blood encrusted tampon?

[mardigan]

Damn that line up sucked, was that the year we traded Sean?

[whottt]

You your mom's year old blood encrusted tampon?

Ok that was pretty funny

Too bad you suck ass other than that.

[whottt]

Damn that line up sucked, was that the year we traded Sean?

It sucks worse than it seems...

That Terry mings was the one without knees.
That Willie Anderson was the one without shins.
That Sleepy Floyd was gooooooooooone, playing in his final season and on his last NBA legs.


And those were the good players on that team.

I mean Vinny Del Negro..a second string shooting guard at best, was the starting PG on that team.


I want to see Shaq and Hakeem and Kareem win a ing le with that team. , I just want to see them make the playoffs with it....much less win 50+ games.

[monosylab1k]

Ok that was pretty funny

Too bad you suck ass other than that.

thanks. i try. not the ass sucking part. the other one.

[mardigan]

It sucks worse that it seems...

That Terry mings was the one without knees.
That Willie Anderson was the one without shins.
That Sleepy Floyd was gooooooooooone, playing in his final season and on his last NBA legs.


And those were the good players on that team.

Yea I saw that Nigele Knight was the second leading scorer in the playoffs, I cant believe Dave was even able to take that team that far

[Spurminator]

I didn't remember that team being that bad.

I mean... Negele ing Knight!

John Lucas should have won Coach of the Decade for getting 55 wins out of that team.

[Don Quixote]

You have relations with your mom?

"Hold on ... yes, Mr. Cuban. Good to talk to you ... yes, I know! [laughter] I see you took my advice on the Youtube stock. Look, Mark, one of your children must have wandered over here from the kiddy table. Ya think you could come get him?

We were hoping for an intelligent Mavs fan, but we ended up with this one .... [laughter]. Yaknow, at first he was funny, but now he's getting a little carried away. Yeah, I know, but what can you do? These kids listen to their rap all day, surf the net, read Democratic Underground. [talking] I know! Anyhoo, Mark, yathink you can send us a couple of intelligent fans? We'd appreciate it."

[lefty]

Shaq = way overrated ; take away his brute strength and his elbowing in the face , and u are left with nothing.

Sure, Jordan took advantage of his athleticism ; Iverson uses his quickness ; but those guys can do other things too...

And don't get me started on the "Shaq has become an excellent passer over the years , wow..." I mean, when a much smaller guy comes to help, Shaq is supposed to make an adequate pass to an open guy, so nothing amazing there; when it comes to passing, he is no Walton or Sabonis....

Speaking of Sabonis, if it wasn't for political reasons, he should have joined the Blazers earlier, when he was younger and healtier ; we all aknowledge his talents and the way he sees the game ; when I was living in Europe, I watched Sabonis (Euroleague games) : the guy was running and dunking like D-Rob, no kidding !!!! combine that with his amzing talents, and Jordan wouldn't have won in the early 90's

[monosylab1k]

"Hold on ... yes, Mr. Cuban. Good to talk to you ... yes, I know! [laughter] I see you took my advice on the Youtube stock. Look, Mark, I'm in serious need of having a gigantic stick yanked out of my ass. Could you advise?

We were hoping that the lump of coal up there would be a diamond by now, but we've gotta wait a few weeks for that. Yaknow, at first I thought it was funny to take the moral high ground with Mavs fans...and then I realized that Spurs fans fling as much of the trash talking as anybody else. I need you to find a way to ban Democratic Underground...you see, they don't agree with my Republican political hero, Cheney. He tells fellow politicians to "go yourself" on the floor of Congress. [talking] I know! Exactly like the Mavs fan that I'm trying to take the high ground on! Except he's not some random guy on a message board, he's the Vice President! Anyhoo, Mark, yathink you can show me how to not be a hypocrite? I'd appreciate it."

fixed

[monosylab1k]

Ok that was pretty funny

Too bad you suck ass other than that.

BTW can't find a byline. So it, you win that one. I still somewhat stand by the article tho because it wasn't some BS wikipedia creation.

I still think the 71 points was cheap, and I'd still take Shaq over Robinson no matter what the numbers are. But let me restate one more time that I've always like Drob and his game. The guy was incredible. All i was saying was that he DID give a about that scoring le. That's all.

[Don Quixote]

fixed

Ah, little brother. So angry ...

Why are you so upset? Your team has won 16 straight. They're kicking everybody's butt.

I mean, if they sucked, I could understand the need to take a crap on some other team's message board. But they don't. They're winning, and they haven't choked yet. So bask in it. Enjoy it.

It's not like anyone's going to take away the Mav's prior les, MVP awards, scoring les, etc.

[lefty]

There yo go ; a little cheesy, but some highlights of young skinny healthy Sabonis

http://youtube.com/watch?v=JLu2SlE85tg

[monosylab1k]

Ah, little brother. So angry ...

Why are you so upset? Your team has won 16 straight. They're kicking everybody's butt.

I mean, if they sucked, I could understand the need to take a crap on some other team's message board. But they don't. They're winning, and they haven't choked yet. So bask in it. Enjoy it.

It's not like anyone's going to take away the Mav's prior les, MVP awards, scoring les, etc.

LOL do you even know what thread you're posting in? Read the le. We've been discussing DAVID ROBINSON and the TOP CENTERS. Someone made one throwaway diss about me being a Mavs fan, so I returned the favor. Other than that this has been about David Robinson and other great centers, and all the discussion and debate that it has spawned. Not to do with the failures of the Dallas Mavericks. So maybe I'm so "angry" because you have no clue where you're posting at, yet you insist on being a .

If you'd like to talk down to Mavs fans and actually be on-topic about it, there's plenty of threads in the NBA News forum. Have fun.

[Don Quixote]

And I'm okay with Shaq being as high as he was. You really think he wouldn't have averaged 50 pts., 25 boards a game in the 1960s? And I don't really care that some no-talent hip-hop with the initials SJ didn't vote for David.

While there are some people out there who wake up each day angry (over what? I dunno ... ), I don't define my happiness over what happens in Washington, or who likes my team, for that matter. This is America. Life is good.

Oh well ... this thread is pretty much dead. I will say that Mavs Fan, as usual, is good for a laugh. Gosh, it will be high comedy to see them choke in the playoffs again. Or, at best, they win. And we'll say, "So what? Little brother got his ring. Whoopdedo."

[mardigan]

David Robinson for President