Would you try to work a S&T with Cleveland Oberto for Varejao? Maybe throw in odds and ends like the 33rd pick, Beno or rights to Scola?
If it was that easy as you say,Rasho and Nazr shouldīve been still wearing a spurs uniform,donīt you think?
Besides,I donīt think Fabricio is trying to make a stupid move,I just think He is trying to secure his last 3 or 4 yrs as an active player,thatīs all.
If you look at fabricioīs skills He will still do the same things He does right now in 3 or 4 yrs,coze he doesnīt base his game on athletisism,just smart BB.
Well, he was fairly significant in the other 3 postseason series.
He's a smart capable big who doesn't need the rock to be effective and he knows the things that other talents still haven't figured out how to do at the 5. And he plays well on the big stage. Those qualities are both very valuable for a serious contender.
As for Houston, they can gain their athleticism on the perimeter.
Finally the Spurs find a center for the postseason and the Spurs should let him walk over relatively little?
Well, Phoenix is fairly significant matchup going into the future.
What other things? What is the value of those other things?He's a smart capable big who doesn't need the rock to be effective and he knows the things that other talents still haven't figured out how to do at the 5. And he plays well on the big stage. Those qualities are both very valuable for a serious contender.
they have been quoted as specifically looking for athleticism at the four.As for Houston, they can gain their athleticism on the perimeter.
Graham is an extremely athletic 3 that can play at the 4 spot and has good defensive fundamentals. If the Spurs can get him on the cheap, I think he could blow up the summer league and be in contention in 08 for minutes...
Personally, I think we had a pretty easy time of it this playoffs, and still need to look for an upgrade at center if it's at all possible. Oberto may or may not be one of the guys to stay.
As are Dallas and Utah.
Knowing your spot on the floor. Playing within your game. Playing solid team defense. Plenty when you are competing for championships.What other things? What is the value of those other things?
Team execs say many things.they have been quoted as specifically looking for athleticism at the four.
Giving up the best center the Spurs have had post-DRob isn't "cheap".
Spurs have other options, both on this team (Butler) and off it....with Scola, draftees, veteran FAs (PJ Brown?), etc.
Why overpay for this guy...thinking long-term $$$....when the Spurs have other legitimate options?
It would be nice if all their opponents had Tim Duncan too.
Numbers please.Plenty when you are competing for championships.
So you think Houston wants to get less athletic at the four under Adelman.Team execs say many things.
A team doesn't need TD for Oberto to be effective.
Someone paid Adonal Foyle $40 million when he's done nothing in the postseason. Ditto for Radoslav and Mohammed.Numbers please.
I don't see it as a given. Oberto can play the 5 as well.So you think Houston wants to get less athletic at the four under Adelman.
3 yrs $ 10 M,is overpaid for a smart center in the NBA today?
Geez;He is one of the cheapest we had in a long time.
I have to think that PJ Brown would love to play for the Spurs. The reason he requested a trade from the Hornets was so he could play for a contender. Having a shot at a ring might encourage him greatly. That being said, PJ also has stated he has no interest in playing Center anymore. He started at C for the Hornets all of 05-06 and absolutely hated it.
Nazr did le in 2005 at 20 min per playoff game. So in a sense, thanks for agreeing with my point. Rasho was a knee jerk reaction to the Lakers getting Karl Cheapshot and Gary Payton for minimal. A signing that should never have happened. Altho Rashos team D was much much better then a lot ever gave him credit for.
If Fabs only priority is money, then hasta. So be it. My take is he's gonna get what, 25%?? more money next year. Why not stay on the Spurs, earn ***only 3 million*** on a repeat le team then sign afterwords? Because that would mean it's about winning 1st, and with 90% of pro athetes, it isnt.
I hear you that Fabs realistically has only one more shot at a contract. But I'm telling you in this day and age of role players making 3 million a year, the 1960s 25K a year players must roll over and die at what todays pampered NBA players consider underpaid.
Is Fabs lifestyle really gonna change that much if he earns 3 million vs 4 next year? And Finley
The Spurs signed Nesterovic irrespective of the Lakers' additions that summer.Nazr did le in 2005 at 20 min per playoff game. So in a sense, thanks for agreeing with my point. Rasho was a knee jerk reaction to the Lakers getting Karl Cheapshot and Gary Payton for minimal. A signing that should never have happened. Altho Rashos team D was much much better then a lot ever gave him credit for.
If Fabs only priority is money, then hasta. So be it. My take is he's gonna get what, 25%?? more money next year. Why not stay on the Spurs, earn ***only 3 million*** on a repeat le team then sign afterwords? Because that would mean it's about winning 1st, and with 90% of pro athetes, it isnt.
I hear you that Fabs realistically has only one more shot at a contract. But I'm telling you in this day and age of role players making 3 million a year, the 1960s 25K a year players must roll over and die at what todays pampered NBA players consider underpaid.
Is Fabs lifestyle really gonna change that much if he earns 3 million vs 4 next year? And Finley
Why are the Spurs en led to have players play for them on the cheap?
Args, you have no idea what another team will offer Oberto, so why speculate on how much he'll receive. I'll admit though, that I don't know how much the Spurs would be willing to pay either.
My statement was in reference to "long-term money". I don't mind paying Oberto $3 or even $4 next year, but what about the year after that and the year after that. I know 31 is not that old, but think about how his lack of athleticism already limits him (doubt he'll ever avg. more than 20MPG) and think about what he might be two or three years from now.
If the Spurs are dolling out long-term contracts, I prefer that they do so for players that are likely not to decline in talent, athleticism, and production during that time.
Well....it's a cheap ring for the player and a cheap price for the Spurs.
S.A is a small market city,not enough money to spend,I guess
Perhaps, but Oberto is 31 not 37.
We all know,Fabss wont get a $20 M contract,He could if He was 25,but he is 32 unfortunetly.
I really think He is looking for a 3 yrs 10 to 12 M contract,and another championship ring with the spurs.
But I could be wrong.time will tell I guess.
I agree.Oberto'd guard Tim very well in 2003 and 2004 in Fiba. Impressive job. And he'd guard Amare very well in the playoffs in the critical moments.
He'll make a good job on Tim again, better than Kurt Thomas.
If Garnett not sign whit Suns. Oberto=the new role defensive player Suns.
I don't know, I think the Mavs might think rather highly of Oberto. The worst case for them would be that the Spurs are forced to pay a lot more to retain Oberto.
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