I think next year we should trade Tiago to Mavs...
hi everyone yesterday Tiago played and incredible game
and helped us to win bilbao. He made a great job again, 18 ptos in just 22 or 24 minutes. I don't know what are going to happen next season if Tiago go to nba, I just know that where he goes, he will do and incredible job becouse he is a big professional and every time he works for the team with his points, blocks, defense.... HE IS GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Splitter!
Yeah every day that passes, I think it shows the Spurs liked Splitter more than Scola and thought there was only room for 1.
Is it true Buford's been antagonizing him with emails about rebounding more?
That would be warranted.
TAU is very big rival of Panathinaikos. We will be pay very close attention in game of playoff with TAU and PAO if Panathinaikos beat Partizan in next game.
Just out of curiosity...
How is Tau doing this season compared to last season?
I want to see how much of an impact losing the greatest player in history had on them.
How are the Rockets doing with him?
How many possible roster spots could the team have available this off-season? I'm sure they'd figure out some way of having both Ian and Tiago here next season.
So, I believe they'd be looking for help at the swingman spots, I think Finley's gone, and (finally) developing a young third point guard. Does anyone see things differently, and how much of an impact can Tiago and Ian have?
I say Tiago comes in and replaces Horry, Ian stays in Austin one more year.
If Tiago is as good as billed and Ian improves to where hes good enough to play with Duncan and or Kurt Thomas, then I'd say package up Oberto and see what he can get you.
Spurs and Mahinmi have both said he'll be on the Spurs next season. I highly doubt they can convince him to do another year in D-League.
Gotta open up another spot ...
Ian would be on the roster regardless -- why would another spot have to be opened?
The Rockets added a coach who has taken two teams to the NBA finals and is one of the few to have won 50 games with 3 different teams(about to be 4).
Tau OTOH...lost the MVP...
That's like the Spurs losing Duncan...in theory.
I'm just curious as to if it's showing up in their won lost record.
Call it a hunch...but I bet they haven't even noticed he's gone record wise.
Splitter's numbers are better than Scola's...
Well, this what the Spurs roster could look like (without filling lost spots)
PG. Tony Parker
SG. Manu Ginobili
SG. Brent Barry
SF. Bruce Bowen
SG/SF. Ime Udoka
PF/C. Tim Duncan
PF. Ian Mahinmhi (mispelled his last name)
PF. Matt Bonner
C/PF. Fabricio Oberto
C/PF. Tiago Splitter
That's only 10 players, I could be missing someone, leaving 5 spots open for drafted, re-signed, or free-agent players. I believe the team would be solid next season with that group, another (athletic) swingman, veteran point guard (Vaugn or Stoudamire) and some developing players in the D-League/in-active list.
Tau's records
ACB Regular Season
06/07: 26-8 (1st)
07/08: 18-7 (currently 4th)
Euroleague
06/07: 12-2 preliminary, 6-0 final 16
07/08: 9-5 preliminary, 5-0 final 16
If the Spurs re-sign Thomas and Splitter comes over, that's seven bigs -- six if Horry retires. But even if Horry retires, six is still t0o many. The sixth big would be in street clothes and the fifth big would rarely play.
Plus, the FO doesn't believe in stockpiling redundant talent. They'd trade a couple pieces away to make room for the players they most believe in. It'd be interesting to know how the FO rates the bigmen going forward.
Well there you go...a little drop but not much. The little drop could just as easily be explained by Splitter not being backed up by Splitter like Scola was...as it is by Scola leaving.
Euroleague
06/07: 12-2 preliminary, 6-0 final 16
07/08: 9-5 preliminary, 5-0 final 16
Interesting...as the level of compe ion goes up, Scola's absence makes less and less of a difference. In fact, they notice him being gone at the highest level, not at all?
Why am I not surprised by that?
And since all Scola did beyond that level was choke....it's hard for me to see Tau being worse off.
We have six on a 14 man roster now.
Right, they wouldn't do anything crazy like have two three-point shooting PFs on the team at one time.Plus, the FO doesn't believe in stockpiling redundant talent.
There's this team called the Austin Toros. One of those six you are counting plays with that team. You should check them out.
And they rotate which games they play in. Add another one or two to the mix and then come up with a rotation. Or nominate one to play in that Toros team I told you about above.
Regarding assorted comments on this thread. There's a 15 man roster with 12 players active per night.
1) TiMVP, I have to side with Chump on this one. I expect the spurs to carry 6 bigs next year (just like they did this year Duncan, Mahinmi, Horry, Bonner, Oberto, Elson (later traded for Thomas). I expect the bigs to look like this Duncan, Mahinmi, Bonner, Oberto, Splitter, and another Veteran. I expect the added veteran to be Kurt, simply on the basis that we can resign him using Bird rights money, and not impact our available exceptions... As far as one of the bigs being a Toro, I expect either Ian or Splitter to spend time as a Toro, and if not, I think Bonner & Oberto should look into buying a suit they can alternate using (they are both 6'10" IIRC...).
Regarding what happens with the roster (Paco's Comments),
Pretty much locks
Bigs - Duncan, Oberto, Bonner, Splitter, Mahinmi
Wings - Manu, Bowen, Udoka, Barry
PG's - Parker, Vaughn
Barry cheated in the game of musical chairs he and Finley were going to play (re-signing this season for multiple seasons) for the spot of old reliable wing player...
Vaughn is back simply because he's been decent according to salary cap sites has another guaranteed year.
This leaves us needing a Veteran Big, a PG, and 2 Wings...
I say veteran big, because I can't see Pop wanting to go into a season with 3 of his 6 bigs being in the big show for the 1st time. I therefore expect Thomas to resign. He's shown no signs of slowing down, and we can use Bird right money, not impacting our exceptions. I expect he gets 6-8 Million over 2 years (08/09 and 09/10)
The PG and both Wing spots are a lot more hazy. We have a draft pick (Currently 22, it's bouncing around a lot). I hope we don't draft a point; I have no faith in Pop giving a rook PG the time needed to develop if he has veteran options. Therefore, assuming we draft a wing in the 1st (PS, we cannot directly trade away the pick - we would have to trade after drafting [Which has salary cap implications], as we have traded our 2009 pick; you can't trade so as to leave you without a 1st round pick in 2 consecutive drafts). There are likely to be several prospects available at that point - Bill Walker, Tyler Smith, Brandon Rush, Sam Young, Courtney Lee... This would leave us needing a wing and a PG. There should be several decent options at PG as FA's (For backups at least) - Duhon, Cassell, Stoudamire, Darius Washington, even Billy Spanoulis (although this would make me cry - having to deal with all the "Billy"-spam !). We would be in the bidding range for any of these with the LLE. That would leave us with the entire MLE for a wing. The only problem is that I expect us to want to issue a n odd contract - likely something like 2 guaranteed years at the full MLE... This will likely limit us to second tier FA's.
regular season: tau so far is 3rd at 18-7, last year they finished 1st 26-8, although they were 19-6 at this point of the season last year.
playoffs: last year they lost the semis. the only time TAU won an ACB league le was in 02 with Scola playing (nocioni too). they lost both 05 and 06 finals. its yet to be seen how they fare this year.
Other: they won the supercopa, but lost the copa del rey finals. they have already qualified for quarterfinals of euroleague.
last year they finished 4th overall in euroleague, didnt make the finals of copa del rey, but they also won the supercopa last year and the one before that. scola did win copa del rey 3 times, 02, 04, and 06.
you might be on to something, we'll see how the season ends. so far all they have is a supercup, which is the easiest of all the compe ions.
What if Bonner gets moved to a SF/PF spot. You then relagate Mahnimi to an understudy role for the season. Concerning our bigs rotation, I wouldn't make any off-season trades. I would wait until mid-season, and see how the rotations pan out early on. Would Oberto be in the final year of his contract next season, or did he recently sign an extension?
i dont think bonner can play SF; still, there is room for 6 bigs, provided one is a project/insurance type.
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