Vassilis Spanoulis Thread

[The Franchise]

Did you sit in the Rockets practice sessions and watch all the practices too? Did Spanoulis have great practices or not? Did he get enough playing time during the season to make a sound basketball call about the man's talent as it seems you have have already done? Or does that lockdown robotic play of JVG's really turn you on to see Yao getting pushed around or T-Mac running the offense with the other teams defenders all keying on him? Wow, that's really smart. How about Azubuike going off for 33 pts and Nachbar becoming one of the best small forwards in the NBA? Does that tell you anything about how JVG uses players? Every single player who ever played for JVG has declined in scoring average.

What did his scoring average have to do with his turnovers? How about his bad shot selection? If you watched the games last year then you would know that every time he got on the floor he was terrible. I don't care about practice. Oh damn V span looked like Micheal Jordan in practice!!! What happened to that great player in the game? He sucked ass!! As i said before V Span was horrible. If he had made any improvement in his game I would have been happy, but he didn't. To give a good example of what I'm saying lets compare him to Scola. Scola looked out of place at the start of preseason. He would turn the ball over, make bad fouls, and his open shots were not dropping. Instead of whining he would go to the refs and asked what he did wrong to learn from his mistake. He seems to be protecting the ball a lot better,and he is starting to get comfortable with his role offensively.He isn't pouting about his role, he is adjusting to the role the team needs from him, and getting better at it. That's an approach that the Spanoulis never even tried.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Yes, it's unfair and mainly because Washington came from NCAA to land in a new team, new country and new style of BB.
Spanoulis wasn't in this case.
And at 21, Spanoulis was playing the Eurocup (weaker level than the ULEB cup) and averaged 6/4.



FIBA isn't the same thing than nba.

You not think 7 best FIBA International Europe player mean something? You see which and how many NBA player on list? Now you try say player like Papaloukas or Spanoulis not NBA player?




You forget Spanoulis rookie 2002-2003 he have Champions FIBA League
8 games
10.8 points
6.4 FIBA assist
8.4 NBA assist

He also have lead Maroussi to first times ever Greek Cup champions game! He do this age 20!

11 point 8 nba assist average and champion game not good for 20 year old rookie?

Next year he have ankle injury at EuroCup.

So actual at age 20 could say better in Europe than Washington at age 21.

Or you still try argue?

[CubanMustGo]

Oh, enough. Take your manlove for Spanoulis somewhere else. I'll make it simple for you:

Spanoulis isn't playing for the Spurs this season, therefore

WE DON'T GIVE A .

Come back when (if) His Royal Pussiness decides that the NBA is good enough for him.

[Russ]

There's one comparison where the difference is dramatic and trumps all others -- what their salaries [are/would have been] with the Spurs this year.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

What did his scoring average have to do with his turnovers? How about his bad shot selection? If you watched the games last year then you would know that every time he got on the floor he was terrible. I don't care about practice. Oh damn V span looked like Micheal Jordan in practice!!! What happened to that great player in the game? He sucked ass!! As i said before V Span was horrible. If he had made any improvement in his game I would have been happy, but he didn't. To give a good example of what I'm saying lets compare him to Scola. Scola looked out of place at the start of preseason. He would turn the ball over, make bad fouls, and his open shots were not dropping. Instead of whining he would go to the refs and asked what he did wrong to learn from his mistake. He seems to be protecting the ball a lot better,and he is starting to get comfortable with his role offensively.He isn't pouting about his role, he is adjusting to the role the team needs from him, and getting better at it. That's an approach that the Spanoulis never even tried.

I have visuals proofs that you = liar!

Accordings to "fans" likes you Spanoulis bench because "poor play" which lie and BS. He bench because coach = asshole.

You just like so much other dumb Rocket fan believe craps and make up lies. Alston not even able to do any of these type play Spanoulis make. Only idiot people believe this nonsense crap as you talk.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2JxYa3QqBYo

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Just let people know who think he "suck" and also Spur fan who want keep tab on how he do for when can join Spur next year.

Panathinaikos beat Olympiakos (2nd best Greek team and 3rd best probable team of Europe) 81-77!

Spanoulis MVP of game with 5 FIBA assist about 7 NBA type assist I count and 27 point in 28 minute!

This such "suck player"

box score:

http://www.galanissportsdata.com/bas...me.asp?game=21

game photos stories:

http://www.sportime.gr/basket_inside...ticle_id=63822

game sold out with 18,700 attendance!

[picnroll]

Kill Bill Pana if Spanoulis doesn't join the Spurs next year we're going to hunt you down and make you eat every single post, mother baord, monitor, keyboard and all.

[remingtonbo2001]

Kill Bill Pana if Spanoulis doesn't join the Spurs next year we're going to hunt you down and make you eat every single post, mother baord, monitor, keyboard and all.

You guys are being heads.

Panama Billy keeps beating the dead horse.

THIS IS IN' HALARIOUS. It's a CRAAZY HOUSE!

[The Franchise]

Just let people know who think he "suck" and also Spur fan who want keep tab on how he do for when can join Spur next year.

Panathinaikos beat Olympiakos (2nd best Greek team and 3rd best probable team of Europe) 81-77!

Spanoulis MVP of game with 5 FIBA assist about 7 NBA type assist I count and 27 point in 28 minute!

This such "suck player"

box score:

http://www.galanissportsdata.com/bas...me.asp?game=21

game photos stories:

http://www.sportime.gr/basket_inside...ticle_id=63822

game sold out with 18,700 attendance!

Spanoulis sucks.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Spanoulis sucks.

Like say some people think can just say lie and gets away with this.

[Indazone]

Well at this point it doesn't matter. Only time will tell. We can talk about it all we want but the proof is when Spanoulis signs or doesn't sign. Other than that, it's pure conjecture.

[MagnusKrauss]

granted, svg *did* misuse vspan. what you have to understand k_b_p, is that vspan signed with panathinaikos. sure, he may have a buyout clause, but are you sure rc and the gang would be willing to part with that kinda cash? for a possible second or third string pg? i don't think so. vaughn might last a few more years. its possible they might consider him as a third string then, but third stringers don't get much action. would he be happy with that?

as for your idea, vspan as sg.....an undersized sg? hm. where would you put him? barry has said that this is his last season. fin might last a few (2-3?) years more. there's no way vspan replaces udoka as starter when that happens. manu might still be our star bench player then so no go at sg there.

vspan is a good player. he's a legitimate euro all-star. but that doesn't necessarily mean that he'd be a good fit with the spurs.

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magnusdrakenkrauss

[Indazone]

If Spanoulis comes you have to look at the Spurs expiring contracts and roster spots opening up. Although Vassilis could come here next year, the way the Spurs are constructed, it is more likely to happen the year afterwards.

[Darkwaters]

I am a huge advocate for the signing of Spanoulis next season. I really forsee both Finley and Barry walking at the end of the season leaving us with only 3 wing players under contract (Ginobili, Bowen and Udoka). One can assume that Bowen's minutes will decline this year somewhat and definitely next year. That would leave plenty of room for Spanoulis to fill a role on the wing. If Washington steps up his play this year and becomes a legit backup PG then I think the Spurs can decline Vaughn's option and play Spanoulis on the wing and as the 3rd PG as well. But if we have the roster room, we might as well keep Vaughn as well.

Spanoulis will be a risk if he signs here next offseason. He had a lackluster year in Houston and seriously hurt his value in the NBA. But with an incentive-laden contract, with a team option after the first year or two, he could be a calculated risk. I think you have to roll the dice though. He looks to be so dynamic overseas and I salivate at the thought of him doing those same things on US soil.

While I know the front office miscued on Beno Udrih for many years, they also brought us Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker. If they want him on this team I think they deserve the benefit of the doubt.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Spur fan can judge Spanoulis ability for selves.

Here half 1 of game torrent

http://www.blue-whitegt.com/details.php?id=50339

here half 2 of game torrent

http://www.blue-whitegt.com/details.php?id=50341

[eisfeld]

What's the big issue. Comparing a player who was not ready mentally at all to Spanioulis? He might not have been on the same level back then, but right now Washington seems to be better. So far I've stayed up every night to watch a Spurs game and what I saw of Washington was quite impressive. Although his effort can't be seen in the stats sheet, his will, hustle and hard work is what makes him a superb backup PG. When he was eligible for draftin he wasn't ready... he had the talent but he failed. But unless some other posers he tried hard to come back and prove himself.

[smrattler]

We don't need a backup or third string PG to play 10 mins and extrapolate to AWESOME per 48 mins stats. We just need a guy that plays hard, doesn't take a 10 point lead and turn it to a tied game and shows toughness.

Washington is a tough mother. If he is good enough to beat out Vaughn by say April, we won't need VSpan. I don't care if you take his 3 mins of play and extract he scores 50 points if he had been allowed to play 30 mins.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

See I tell you Lindsey have made trade to get Spanoulis and he will get him back to Spurs after Billy family problem fix.

See here

http://clutchfans.net/news/1262/rock...ses_spanoulis/

Rockets Director of Player Personnel Dennis Lindsey stated the following about Spanoulis prior to the team signing him. "We're very, very happy with his progress," said Lindsey. "He changed clubs this year from Maroussi to the bigger club this year, Panathinaikos. For those not familiar with European basketball, they are like the New York Yankees of Greece and one of the two or three better organizations in Europe. They are an NBA level club. From our standpoint, we really like what Vassilis has done. He is their leading scorer. They are 9-1 in the Euroleague and they have already qualified for the top sixteen."

Lindsey praised Spanoulis' ability to attack the basket. "He's got a couple of characteristics that we like," added Lindsey. "He can really drive and get the ball in the paint, and he's relentless with it. He kind of plays basketball like a fullback a little bit, where he just kind of breaks through the line and there's contact on a lot of plays." Whether Spanoulis is ready to join the team remains to be seen, but Lindsey made it sound like the Rockets would like him on the squad sooner rather than later.

"The owner and Jeff and Carroll really like what they've seen so far and we've made a couple of trips over and hopefully in the near future we can have him as a Rocket because we think he can help us."

Also Panathinaikos so far be one of 2 undefeated team in Greek league at 6-0 and Spanoulis lead league in assists. Panathinaikos be ONLY undefeated team in Euroleague at 6-0. So far Billy overall lead team in scoring and assists and Panathinaikos 12-0 and eurobasket.com rank #1 team in Europe.

[Darkwaters]

I'm more interested in what Lindsey thinks NOW rather than what he thought before he brought Spanoulis over to the NBA. But still, I am all aboard for the idea of bringing Spanoulis back for a second shot at the NBA with the Spurs.

[CubanMustGo]

[Freeze]

[Bruno]

James White! > Spanoulis

On a side note, Jasikevicius (Spanoulis' teammate) loves Spurs a lot. If he decides one day to come back in nba, Spurs will be without very high on his wish list.

[timvp]

Jasikevicius (Spanoulis' teammate) loves Spurs a lot. If he decides one day to come back in nba, Spurs will be without very high on his wish list.

No thanks. Jasikevicius sucks on the NBA level. Beno > Jasikevicius.

Jasikevicius can't handle the ball or defend against NBA players. Beno is actually better at both of those areas. On top of that, Jasikevicius was sub 40% shooter in the NBA -- and that was supposed to be his strong suit.

I'd rather take back Beno or even Billy

[Bruno]

^ I agree and I didn't want him but he definitely loves Spurs. It's not that surprising given that Spurs should be the most loved nba teams among euro players.

[Bruno]

Spurs are my dream. The caoch and players are like brothers. They wnat to win every game. Each game is important for them. They ahve the right at ude, the right mental approach of the BB game. It's a great organization, a good place to be but there are only few like that in nba.