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Only one that could guard Parker in the playoffs last year.Except mortgaging Marion isn't that much. Marion sucks
suns games can be
Only one that could guard Parker in the playoffs last year.Except mortgaging Marion isn't that much. Marion sucks
Playoffs aren't fast paced.
Am I missing something?
Did D'Antoni get fired?
That's exactly what they are doing...
They are putting it all on the line for now...and by now, I mean this season.
And it's a smart move...Nash is pretty old himself.
I think this makes the Suns a huge for us...
Steve Nash and Amare by themselves are a huge for us...
Shawn Marion isn't...and he never has been.
Shaq OTOH....
The good news about all this...is that it's the defacto end of the Suns as perennial le contenders...it's this year or never.,...maybe they could stretch it out one more season...but that's it.
But I'd say with Nash's age that was going to be the case anyway.
The bottom line is that, Shaq is only the third best player on this team... , he might even be the fourth best.
That should scare the out of anyone.
I know Marion's sick stats tend to hypnotize...but he really does everything between the cracks...he does not take over games. And he's go no inside presence...on either side of the ball really.
Oh one other thing about Shaq's defense...
Shaq will just knock the out of Manu, Parker, or Duncan.....he's a big dude...I want you guys to tell me you'd laugh at catching one of his elbows to your face. And no one can move him...
Believe it or not, a lot of Duncan's game now relies on him being stronger than the guy defending him...that's not going to be the case with Shaq. He's definitely going to have to go to his speed game against Shaq.
D'Antoni will be coach in name only. This will be Shaq's team. He knows he has one last run. Nash and everyone else will hop on Shaq's shoulders and Shaq will give it his final push.
Even if everything wich TIMVP says is true.
Mr "Come on come on come on lets go" is still the coach.
That in its self is still a huge plus for the Spurs.
I don't want the Spurs to play a desperate Shaq playing with desperate players like Nash and Grant Hill. That's three players who are all about winning championships.
Spurs fans can laugh and make fun of the Suns now but they just got the one player who the Spurs just can't guard. Sure, he might get injured or he might be too broken, but if he's not?
Not good.
When I first heard about this trade, I was pissed. They get Steve Nash and Grant Hill as FA's to team up with Amare. Now Shaq is coming on board ? Holy friggin crap.
I then hopped back in my Time Machine and fast forwarded from 2004 to 2008 where I laughed my ass off. Nice one Kerr...
Come to think of it....Perhaps this was Phoenix's way of seeing what a Championship Ring looked like. God knows its as close as they will ever get to one.
I don't know what people aren't getting.
Marion was killing their chemistry and causing a lot of problems for that team internally. They have been dangling him in trades for 2 years. They didn't want him there.
He's been in 38 out of 40 games and avgs 14 4 3. Not quite what Spurs fan was predicting when Old Man Glass Hill signed with the Suns.
Yeah those overweight centers who play every other game and throw up weak 8 foot hook shots are a bear.Spurs fans can laugh and make fun of the Suns now but they just got the one player who the Spurs just can't guard. Sure, he might get injured or he might be too broken, but if he's not?
I would be amazed if he passed the physical or wait their doctors can not even patch up nash so they might be able to pass shaq with his physical
I would love a sun vs lakers playoff series
And shooting upwards of 50%.
Ok fine hes in AC Green.He's been in 38 out of 40 games and avgs 14 4 3. Not quite what Spurs fan was predicting when Old Man Glass Hill signed with the Suns
This is bad.
This is bad.
The very reason the Suns have sucked and lost in the postseason is because of their run-and-gun offense and small ball.
They just took that away.
They just slowed down their game.
They just switched to a style that can actually win something.
It was obvious that run-and-gun was going nowhere. I'd prefer if they didn't pull the trigger because we know how to play them. Now we gotta relearn it.
Whatever we need to do to avoid playing both LA and Phoenix, I'm for it
Oh for christ sake.
No one is saying that. But you said that he's been missing games (implying that he was broken down). Young Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili and Tim Duncan have all missed more games.
Now wait.
The Lakers get bigger and slower and thats good for the Spurs.
The Suns do the same thing, but OLDER, and thats bad?
Ok.
so nash is just going to let mr shaq came to suns and let him be the man
but he was not willing to let "marion the cancer" pretend to be the man
You got me. I edited my post. I don't want to give up homecourt.
Oh for christ sake.
Parker thanks to his stupid ass French team and screwing off in the offseason.Young Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili and Tim Duncan have all missed more games.
Duncan's was a freak thing as was Ginobili's.
Hill's CURRENT problems the ankle and back are the same old same old.
Seriously...how many people in this thread have made fun of the Suns for being locked into an uptempo game and their inability to play half court...and now they're laughing about them getting arguably the most dominant half court player in NBA history(albeit at the end).
I give you props for not being contradictory...
This potential trade makes great sense - for the Spurs, Mavs and Fakers.
Sure this is a desparate move for the Suns, but it's also an indictment as to the current style they've been playing. I don't see any way Shaq can adapt to the run-n-gun style of the Suns. Neither will Phoenix be able to suddenly "slow down" its game pace to accomodate Shaq.
The Suns have a half a season to figure it out. However, history shows how difficult it can be to rebuild chemistry on the fly. History also shows that teams who make such drastic, mid-season lineup changes rarely reap immediate benefit - if at all.
That salary will be an albatross for the Suns for the next 3 seasons. If Shaq had anything left, it would have been evident this season. If he does have anything left, how is he going to suddenly get into shape to help them.
This is obviously a reactionary response to the Gasol-to-the-Fakers trade. However it makes for wonderful theater.
The chemistry will get better.
True.
So D'Antoni is just gonna say "Im not the coach anymore Shaq, you go ahead and run things?"
Not that friggen guy's ego.
No way no how.
This is the regular season, not the playoffs. In the playoffs, your best players have to play more minutes, simply because you're playing against better teams than in the regular season.
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