This pickup is about the respect Pop and RC have for Shaquille O'neal more than anything else, imo.
Thomas actually grabs more rebounds per minute than Duncan. Thomas becomes perhaps the best rebounder on the team. Duncan and Thomas should be able to clean the glass.
To put in perspective how much of a monster Thomas has been on the glass this season, he's rebounding at a better clip than Duncan ever has and equal to David Robinson in his prime.
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This pickup is about the respect Pop and RC have for Shaquille O'neal more than anything else, imo.
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As the person that championed a trade for this guy for weeks, this is the best news possible!!
I have to disagree that this is an iffy trade.
Late first round picks are crap shoots and Elson was pathetic.
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Thomas is a hoss. If Barry is Stackhoused this trade goes from good to awesome.
Duncan, Thomas, Udoka, Manu. How's that for rebounding?
that alone makes me happy, very happy.
arguably our biggest weakness has now been addressed.
Rebounding big trumps the insane.
Well Stackhouse has never actually been 'Stackhoused' like the Knicks never used the 'Allan Houston Rule' on Allan Houston...
However, this did happen to both Lindsy Hunter and Elden Campbell... so perhaps the Stackhouse concept should be in honor of one of these 2...
I don't necessarily agree this has anything to with Shaq, or anyone else.
Elson just sucks, and Duncan has been the only consistent rebounder against any other team. Duncan needed help on the glass regardless if PHX got shaq, or the Lakers deal (which, imho...is still the best deal made this season.) And, actually...I think Oberto would be better playing against the Lakers than KT.
No, we needed another rebounder. Will this help against Shaq? Yeah, prolly...but I woulda done the deal whether any other team in the league made a move or not. It was a glaring hole that needed to be filled.
No. "Stackoused" has a better flow and serves as a reminder to mavfans about the debacle that was the Kidd trade.
KT was good on PHX, and was VERY good along side Camby and Ewing back in NY... If I am not mistaken, he wasn't bad next to Zo either...
Guy has a good history next to guys inferior to Duncan.
I would have preferred to get Artest for all we have given but KT is clearly an update over Elson. When is KT's contract expiring?
Is there still a possibility that Barry is bought out and comes back at a Spur?
Good lord. The with 2010. Tim Duncan isn't going to be great forever.
Just win. Now.
We just gave ourselves a solid big man to put next to TD when we really didn't have one and had to cross our fingers Oberto would step up in the post-season.
It gives us a great rebounding big man who can hit the jumper and space the floor for TD. Oh, and it gives us an enforcer in the paint too.
All for two expiring contracts and a late first round pick that the Spurs would have ed up any way.
What's the big deal again?
Last edited by Aggie Hoopsfan; 02-20-2008 at 08:17 PM.
this is a bad trade
spurs supporting cast is already bad..losing barry is not a good move. this move makes spurs further away from repeating
Well, I have little against the Mavs, if anything at all... And it sounds silly to name something after someone that never did what is attributed to him...
I'm not worried about 2010. I'm worried about next year and the year after.
I suppose this had to have a descending opinion somewhere.
IMHO, the Spurs didn't need Barry. They needed someone next to Timmay.
I believe the Kurt Thomas talk started in my "change is in the air thread" (which I can't link to right now because the search function is down) back in late January - people didn't like my Pietrus for Elson idea, someone suggested KT, a bunch of people liked the idea, timvp didn't primarily due to KT's immobility (he suggested that a more mobile, weakside help shotblocking big would be better and I agreed with him)...
And now he's here. I think it will work, although Diop would've been better.
Welcome KT.
IMFO. PLAY TO REPEAT. PERIOD. I couldn't care less who gets our first round picks in the future..
Of course, you always have to think long-term but this is the year that the Spurs can use to solidify themselves in the history books.
something to consider, the 04 lakers had one of the most physical frontlines ever. Shaq plus amare is fairly stout. Thomas will help with that.
The reality is KT has the bb IQ to learn the Spurs and be helpful. While Artest is no doubt the better player KT is the better fit in regards to time and chemistry. Barry and Elson were not playing anyway. Nice catch.
That's "dissenting".
And as for the take, he gives no reasoning so it adds nothing.
Perdon` le Spelling. I am typing pretty fast and didn't have a chance to run it though MS Word (nor do I think it would have caught the error either).
Point is the same.
spurs will have MLE to use on swingmen. I think finley could be brought back for one more year. Plus they have their first rounder this year
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