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Just a question, would you do Howard for Brand straight up? Keep in mind that we could maybe include Terry in the package and get Magette as well.
Popovich also doesn't think much of Spanoulis and didn't want him on his team. It's not just Me, Van Gundy, or any other "stupid Americans" who feel this way.
Just a question, would you do Howard for Brand straight up? Keep in mind that we could maybe include Terry in the package and get Magette as well.
boy you are really reaching there but that's ok. Every player has their hatas.
Because that's how it works in the NBA. If you hire Nellie, then you know you need to retool your roster to play small ball. You don't try to change Nellie to play something else. That's his system and you mold your team to the coach's system. Perhaps the only exception to that has been D'Antoni, that retooled the Sun's offense to be more inclusive of a post play with Shaq. But then, you need a very good post player to force that change.
Avery's system is the Spurs's system. That's what he knows. So he's going to try to make Dirk a post player, because Cuban seems unable to get him a real post player.
So perhaps part of the solution is to fire Avery. But the problem is, any of the other fairly good available coaches out there are pretty much defensive guys: Larry Brown, Rick Carslile, Jeff Van Gundy... I think any of those guys would pretty much want to play with a system similar to the Spurs too, so what do you do?
If coach Pop wanted him on the team then why wasn't a deal reached? I just can't understand why no team wants such a Michael Jordan level talent, it just blows my mind.
Don't you read the papers? Vspan was pissed off by his entire NBA Rockets experience he didn't want to play anymore in the NBA. He left to go back to take care of sick mother who really was sick.
No I really don't pay much attention to bull articles about players who will never have an impact on the NBA. Poor wittle Billy couldn't get any playing time so he cried his way back to Europe where people like Kill_Bill still idolize him.
Popovich ask him to please stay on team. You say thing which are not true like say I see some Mavericks fans is same as most Rockets fans. Spurs have some dumb fans but most of them is much smarter than most Rocket fan and I see Maverick fans in topic here sound same way of "basketball knowledge" as most those Rocket fans
Maybe this because coach like Johnson who just like Van Gundy have also brain wash fans of Dallas same way Van Gundy do with fans of Houston.
You should be Rockets fan you just like most of them on the clutch fans. Billy is not idolize in Europe not even in Greece. These type of statement just show you are person who never go to Europe and will never know anything about it. But you like talk like you know all bout it. As I say Ugly American syndrome
People in Dallas are screaming fire Avery. What you're saying is totally innacurate, Avery is a poor example of a coach to use to make your point.Popovich ask him to please stay on team. You say thing which are not true like say I see some Mavericks fans is same as most Rockets fans. Spurs have some dumb fans but most of them is much smarter than most Rocket fan and I see Maverick fans in topic here sound same way of "basketball knowledge" as most those Rocket fans
Maybe this because coach like Johnson who just like Van Gundy have also brain wash fans of Dallas same way Van Gundy do with fans of Houston.
Maybe he isn't idolized even in his home country because he's not as good as you seem to think.
You should be Rockets fan you just like most of them on the clutch fans. Billy is not idolize in Europe not even in Greece. These type of statement just show you are person who never go to Europe and will never know anything about it. But you like talk like you know all bout it. As I say Ugly American syndrome
Do you not understand basic things? There is MANY teams in Greece. There is no such thing as fan of other team idolize best player of best team in country.
You think all fans idolize best player on best team in NBA? You sure all fans of all teams do this "idolize" of best player of best team?
Manu Ginobili, now that's a real player, loved by Spur fans and idolized in Argentina because he's actually accomplished something.
Well I know most intelligent NBA fans at least respect how good Kobe is and acknowledge that he is the best basketball player on Earth, not to mention he's entertaining to watch. Now does that make me a Laker fan? Not even closeDo you not understand basic things? There is MANY teams in Greece. There is no such thing as fan of other team idolize best player of best team in country.
You think all fans idolize best player on best team in NBA? You sure all fans of all teams do this "idolize" of best player of best team?
Good for you. At least Dallas fan actual understand these coach suck. Advice to you fans of Dallas. If fan are suggest to hire Van Gundy do not hire him. Big mistake. He is Johnson except one difference he is much worse than him at make game adjustment in playoff.
I am still waiting on you to post something intelligent to discuss.
I have made my case, the trade was bad because Kidd doesn't fit....and the record since the trade has proven my point.
You on the other hand just like to troll and curse at people, how unclassy of you.
As for JVG....the guy is the most overated coach in NBA history.....he has no clue how to make adjustments at all, and for the record...for those of you whining about Avery, he outcoached JVG in the playoffs after the Rockets were up 2-0 and going home for the next 2 games.
That should tell you all you need to know about him.
Kill Bill is exaggreating about FIBA ball, but he is somewhat right about V-Span the guy would be a very good NBA PG if given the right opportunity.
DD
Sorry, you don't get to dictate discussion. Answer my question, troll.
LOL - no you prove that Kidd doesn't dominate the ball, I already said he did, and that it adversly effected Josh Howards game....
But you refuse to listen to logic, keep playing that violin as the Mavs ship sinks...
DD
Then why use word "idolize"? Let me explain. Rocket fan and Dallas fan not like each other.
Similar rivalry in Greek league is Olympiacos and Panathinaikos both team play in Athens so even closer than Dallas and Houston rivalry. Difference is in NBA fan may say some things or mock player and such. In Greece this is like WAR.
Just last game yesterday between Olympiacos and Panathinaikos Spanoulis get hit by 15 rocks during game and one of them cut his face. he also spit on 3 time during game and is have beer and the soda throw on him. This is normal.
Fans are ALLOW do such thing. he also get hit by some coin during game. 200 arm police in stadium to keep fan of different team from each other. Game play in 15,000 seat stadium and ONLY 1000 fans let in stadium because of "riot danger"
Each fan escort in building one at time!
You actual think US and Argentina is same culture as Greece?
That is because the Rockets have won championships while the Mavs have won....uh.....well....uh.......nothing.
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Van Gundy is a great coach. He might not be in the upper echelon as the Pop's or Phil's out there, but he definitely gave the Rockets a defensive personality, and did a fairly good job of surrounding Yao with people that made him become the NBA force he is nowadays.
Now, that he didn't like V-Span or some other player, that's a different story. Larry Brown is undisputedly another great coach and we all know he basically do not play rookies, and had a lot of issues with players because of that. Having talent is not enough. Sometimes you need to be lucky too.
I worked at KSAT-12 with Greg Simmons and Paul Alexander in the Sports department back when Larry Brown was the Spurs coach, he was the most arrogant man I have ever met.
A micromangment nutcase, I know he won one championship but I think his days on the NBA sidelines are well past him.....
Glad for that.
DD
what evidence do you have of this? When Howard was in a slump and his back was affecting him? When he was dealing with personal issues? Jason Kidd is responsible for all that?
As has already been said, you were dead wrong in saying that Kidd dominates the ball on offense because he doesn't - in fact, most Mavs fans biggest complaint about Kidd is that he doesn't dominate the ball enough.
EVERY MAVS FAN HERE will say that Kidd plays the iso offense the way it's always been played, by taking it past half-court and then dumping it off to Dirk or Josh. You know why they'd say that? BECAUSE THEY WATCH THE GAMES.
You obviously don't watch Mavs games or know what you're talking about because if you did, you would never have made this completely obtuse and ignorant statement.
And this isn't the first time. Someone on this board who has contacts INSIDE THE MAVS ORGANIZATION refuted another one of your absurd claims and you refused to accept that as well. Either admit you're wrong on this and move on or just admit you're a troll that isn't interested in "intelligent discussion".
LOL you're joking right? Player after former player are pissed off with JVG. exception might be Jon Barry.
Mono,
Watch the game tonight, the difference in what I am talking about is that when Kidd does dump it off, and it is a LOT LESS than Harris did, the teams can easily double off of Kidd because he is NOT a threat.
Whereas with Harris he would cut or fade to the 3pt line and teams would still have to account for him.
The bottom line is that Kidd is worse for the Mavericks current Roster than Harris.
The only one that will benefit from Kidd for the most part is Dirk, the others all play with the ball in their hands are are NOT mostly catch and shoot players.
Thus....it is a much different type of game, and the chemistry doesn't work.
THUS THEY ARE WORSE....as proven by their terrible record since the trade.
Trade failed !!!
DD
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