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[Los Spurs]

Can't believe this thread is at it's 10th page

[BacktoBasics]

Yea, but from what I understand about your POV, familly is numero 1. Which means it supercedes money, training etc - because the mere possbiltiy of losing your life an leaving familly behind isn't worth the money or any of the factors (like training) that make the possibility of this happening less likely.

I'm saying that if eveyone thought that way, we'd have no cops, firemen, soldiers etc.

I'm not saying I'd never be a cop. My family is #1 but if it paid 180k to be a cop the reward might out weigh the risk in the long and I'd have the peace of mind of knowing that yes its a risky job but there is protocol and I have backup, weapons, training to help support myself in crisis.

Now unless my immeadiate family is being attacked in any way shape or form it isn't worth it to me to involve myself in others affairs.

My theory doesn't so much apply to the workforce for those people the reward is worth it and as it stands right now with the current pay scale its not worth it to me. Just like its not worth the aggrivation of being a teacher.

[mrsmaalox]

Can't believe this thread is at it's 10th page

See? That's the way it works around here. If a volatile thread is started, the place is immediately "polarized" into 3 camps: the good guys, the bad guys, and the in betweens. If you look back to Friday, these 3 groups have been chasing each other around in a big circle; making the same points and arguments over and over again! The only thing that changes are the names of the participants!

[tlongII]

My personal opinion is that people choose not to get involved merely because they are chicken- . Not because of a fear of leaving their family fatherless/husbandless.

[Ronaldo McDonald]

I'm not saying I'd never be a cop. My family is #1 but if it paid 180k to be a cop the reward might out weigh the risk in the long and I'd have the peace of mind of knowing that yes its a risky job but there is protocol and I have backup, weapons, training to help support myself in crisis.

Now unless my immeadiate family is being attacked in any way shape or form it isn't worth it to me to involve myself in others affairs.

My theory doesn't so much apply to the workforce for those people the reward is worth it and as it stands right now with the current pay scale its not worth it to me. Just like its not worth the aggrivation of being a teacher.

EDIT: Nevermind read what you said incorrectly.

With you saying that, then I can safely say that if everyone took your POV we'd be in deep as a society. Thankfully, Not everyone is expecting a great (monitary) reward, but just the fact that they are happy with themselves knowing that what they are doing is the right thing to do, which is protecting other people.

[King]

My personal opinion is that people choose not to get involved merely because they are chicken- . Not because of a fear of leaving their family fatherless/husbandless.

My personal opinion is that it's really easy to say you'd get involved and go in guns-a-blazin' when you're in the comfort of your own house. It's also my personal opinion that most of the people who say that have never been in a situation that called for it - regardless of whatever heroic story they're making up.

Human nature is to not get involved. It's called the Kitty Genovese Syndrome.

I don't think anyone in here is saying they wouldn't do ANYthing. I think most people would call 911. I have bigger things to worry about, and that's me and mine. There's a reason that domestic disturbances are the most volatile calls police get. I'm sorry, though, I'm not marching up and getting right in the middle of it. And chances are, neither are you, so save the BS machismo chivalrous intervention story.

[tlongII]

My personal opinion is that it's really easy to say you'd get involved and go in guns-a-blazin' when you're in the comfort of your own house. It's also my personal opinion that most of the people who say that have never been in a situation that called for it - regardless of whatever heroic story they're making up.

Human nature is to not get involved. It's called the Kitty Genovese Syndrome.

I don't think anyone in here is saying they wouldn't do ANYthing. I think most people would call 911. I have bigger things to worry about, and that's me and mine. There's a reason that domestic disturbances are the most volatile calls police get. I'm sorry, though, I'm not marching up and getting right in the middle of it. And chances are, neither are you, so save the BS machismo chivalrous intervention story.

It depends on the situation. If I conclude that the odds are in my favor then I would get involved.

[ChuckD]

Comparing the atrocities of war with not wanting to get killed while two people are having it out is a stupid ass bull statement.

It's micro and macro versions of the same thing.

[td4mvp21]

It depends on the situation. If I conclude that the odds are in my favor then I would get involved.

How are you even going to have to time to do that in the heat of the moment? By the time you decide the situation would most likely be over. It comes down to acting quick and most of the time people aren't going to act at all (probably just a call to police). It's either do it or don't. It's not "let me weigh out the situation". Most of the time you're stuck just watching.

[ChuckD]

How are you even going to have to time to do that in the heat of the moment? By the time you decide the situation would most likely be over. It comes down to acting quick and most of the time people aren't going to act at all (probably just a call to police). It's either do it or don't. It's not "let me weigh out the situation". Most of the time you're stuck just watching.

Oh, come on. If you saw Sequ (foolishly) wailing on Pseudo, you EASILY step in.

[Ronaldo McDonald]

It's micro and macro versions of the same thing.

If I thought just a little bit before (instead of letting my emotions decide before me - this is a touchy issue with me and i tend to yell a lot and make no sense when debating things about the holocaust) - I would have seen that they are not the same, and that as a matter of fact B2B and Peewee were right.

The magnitude of war atrocities is not the same as the magnitude of one/two/three people dying.

If it were true that wasr atrocities were of the same magnitude as a single person dying you'd have to say the same thing for the converse of that statment, which is that one person dying is the same thing as millions of people dying, which is re ed.

And I'm done with all of the the rest of this. What is right and what is wrong is all a matter of opinion. No point in arguing that.

[BacktoBasics]

It depends on the situation. If I conclude that the odds are in my favor then I would get involved.

so now you're backtracking from your chicken statement

[BacktoBasics]

EDIT: Nevermind read what you said incorrectly.

With you saying that, then I can safely say that if everyone took your POV we'd be in deep as a society. Thankfully, Not everyone is expecting a great (monitary) reward, but just the fact that they are happy with themselves knowing that what they are doing is the right thing to do, which is protecting other people.

I would certainly agree with that. Because for most people the monitary reward doesn't fit the risk. In my opinion its not even close. I for one am greatful that we have men and women that lay it out on the line whether thats for the average paycheck or the love of doing it.

[SequSpur]

Oh, come on. If you saw Sequ (foolishly) wailing on Pseudo, you EASILY step in.

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[tlongII]

How are you even going to have to time to do that in the heat of the moment? By the time you decide the situation would most likely be over. It comes down to acting quick and most of the time people aren't going to act at all (probably just a call to police). It's either do it or don't. It's not "let me weigh out the situation". Most of the time you're stuck just watching.

Only takes a second.

[tlongII]

so now you're backtracking from your chicken statement

No. I still think you're a chicken .

[BacktoBasics]

No. I still think you're a chicken .

Even though you made an asshole statement and tracked all over yourself by backpeddling with

It depends on the situation. If I conclude that the odds are in my favor then I would get involved.

You and I are saying the same thing only you're just looking to be a sarcastic asshole and get a rise out of people. Same I was accused of 8 pages ago.

So basically you're copying me. I'm flattered. Better late than never I guess.

[tlongII]

Even though you made an asshole statement and tracked all over yourself by backpeddling with



You and I are saying the same thing only you're just looking to be a sarcastic asshole and get a rise out of people. Same I was accused of 8 pages ago.

So basically you're copying me. I'm flattered. Better late than never I guess.

Shirley. You can't be serious.

[BacktoBasics]

Shirley. You can't be serious.

Its your line of bull you spewed. One minute you're all of mankinds hero calling people or myself a chicken for thinking of my family and my own personal well being first only to double back all over yourself by stating

It depends on the situation. If I conclude that the odds are in my favor then I would get involved.

which is exactly what I said. That it'd be a judgement call. So you just ran a full circle around yourself while insulting others. I'm sure you'll huff and puff and do what you always do when you get up on your pedestal and toss an insult or two and try to pompously make yourself out to be some kind of well rounded know-it-all bafoon but I'm just pointing out the inconsistancies in your arrogant insults directed at me.

Countdown to your one liner exit strategy starting now...

[MannyIsGod]

When I called Midge a puss it was when he said he saw a girl get punched in the face by a guy and didn't even bother to call the cops because he was afraid of what might happen. Thats a SERIOUS lack of balls.

I'm not expecting anyone to run and try to dive in front of a bullet for a perfect stranger. If someone sees a gun out then unless you're packing and you know how to use it you're probably going to make the situation worse by doing anything "heroic".

I also don't expect someone to risk getting themselves killed in a car explosion the way B2B layed out. You do what you can when there is a risk of death involved and you most definetly owe it to your family before anyone else.

There's huge differences between those situations and not even wanting to call the cops.

[BacktoBasics]

Surely you can do better than Sirley

[BacktoBasics]

When I called Midge a puss it was when he said he saw a girl get punched in the face by a guy and didn't even bother to call the cops because he was afraid of what might happen. Thats a SERIOUS lack of balls.

I'm not expecting anyone to run and try to dive in front of a bullet for a perfect stranger. If someone sees a gun out then unless you're packing and you know how to use it you're probably going to make the situation worse by doing anything "heroic".

I also don't expect someone to risk getting themselves killed in a car explosion the way B2B layed out. You do what you can when there is a risk of death involved and you most definetly owe it to your family before anyone else.

There's huge differences between those situations and not even wanting to call the cops.

Agreed. The least you can do is dial 911 I don't think thats too much to ask for in most situations.

[tlongII]

Its your line of bull you spewed. One minute you're all of mankinds hero calling people or myself a chicken for thinking of my family and my own personal well being first only to double back all over yourself by stating



which is exactly what I said. That it'd be a judgement call. So you just ran a full circle around yourself while insulting others. I'm sure you'll huff and puff and do what you always do when you get up on your pedestal and toss an insult or two and try to pompously make yourself out to be some kind of well rounded know-it-all bafoon but I'm just pointing out the inconsistancies in your arrogant insults directed at me.

Countdown to your one liner exit strategy starting now...

As usual, you are full of . You said you would never get involved. That is not the same. Just face it, you are a chicken .

[BacktoBasics]

As usual, you are full of . You said you would never get involved. That is not the same. Just face it, you are a chicken .

Most confrontations I steer clear of. I stated previously if a child was involved I'd likely intervene. I cited examples of times I rendered aide and a time where I backed off fearing the worst. I guess it makes you happy to call me full of , maybe it makes you feel superior to me, I don't know but its pretty ing weak and feable of you.

I've at least given examples of my stance where as all you did was puff your chest and beat it pompously like the arrogant asshole that you've always been. Its not my fault that you contradicted yourself in this thread, I quoted it and pointed it out point blank. If your only response to that is hurl an insult at me than you're pretty ing pathetic.

Until you address the fact that you walked all over your own idiotic ing statement I'm done with you. Go ahead and keep avoiding your own stupidy by insulting others. Hopefully that works for you in real life, you'll need it.