Resuming CBA talks

[Giuseppe]

Players have still given up way too much in these negotiations. They should harden their stance. If owners aren't fine with the system players want then players should ask to get 51% or 52% of the BRI instead.

This^

The players screwed up by giving away 7 points on the BRI and not getting anything for it. But, they played coy to the owner's jack boots and got their ass handed to 'em. Now they're back to the table looking for relief and all they have to offer is to beg.

[DJ Mbenga]

the fact that quinn isnt there is probably not good for tonight. they hired him to be a mediator. another 48 hrs of awaiting tweets. lovely.

[ChuckD]

David Stern is by no means a neutral party, both in public and in dealing with the owners as a body.

Nothing I've said even implies that. He is NOT in charge of the owners, though. He must do what the majority want. Up until now, that's been the hard line. That hasn't worked.

[ChuckD]

If they reach an agreement this week end and go with a 66 games season, it will be a crazy season.

66 games and the ASG in about 128 days will be a lot. A lot of quality depth will be crucial to survive the regular season. Having trading Hill for a rookie will hurt a lot Spurs in that kind of season.

If Anderson is healthy, he and Gary Neal will more than replace George's minutes. I would really have missed the George from 2 years ago, but last year's George is easily replaced. He took two steps backward.

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

Is the meeting still going on?

& I agree, Hill is a great player, and will no doubt make the Pacers
more of a contender, but I see Anderson having alot more potential, potential
to be more than a role player. Then we have Neal, who has proven himself to
be a great scoring option, outside or inside to the rim.

Not to mention, we still have another rookie to try out, in Da'Sean Butler.
Nobody knows if he will do good or not.

[baseline bum]

I'd be (pleasantly) surprised if Anderson is as good as Hill. Still, the team desperately needed a SF.

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

Anderson is bigger, and stronger. He isn't as fast, or have the handles of Hill, but we'll be okay without Hill. what do you think about Dasean?

& they're still negotiating!

[Dex]

Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard
Owners' Labor relations committee deflated when told on conference call that players asked for 51% BRI
21 minutes ago

Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard
League source also said players not getting full midlevel from luxury tax teams..players not asking for full ml, just increase from $3 mill
24 minutes ago

HowardBeckNYT Howard Beck
Have confirmed that Kessler, via speakerphone, asked for 51% tonight, as reported by Yahoo and ESPN. Step backwards in negotiations.
40 minutes ago

ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
RT @HowardBeckNYT: Now 14 hours in. Record for NBA lockout meetings is 16
42 minutes ago

HowardBeckNYT Howard Beck
Now 14 hours in. Record for lockout meeting is 16.
42 minutes ago

Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard
League source says no way deal getting done if players insist on more than 50% BRI.
49 minutes ago

Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard
Owners dismayed by players asking for 51% BRI 2nite. Players have wanted more than 50 since disclaiming....
51 minutes ago

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
The players are clearly trying to feel out how much leverage the filing of federal suits against the NBA have gained them in the process.
1 hour ago

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
This happened several hours ago, source says. The two sides left the room, huddled and talks resumed again.
1 hour ago

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Attorney Jeffrey Kessler joined the talks via speaker phone to make 51-49 proposal to league, source says. Stern, Peter Holt shot it down.
1 hour ago

[Duncan2177]

This is getting more hilarious by the minute.

[#41 Shoot Em Up]

The players thought they gained a little leverage by that lawsuit bull .... but again the owners shoot em down. At some point the players have to see the writing on the wall

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

The players are being ridiculous. What a pathetic negotiating tactic disclaiming was, wasted alot of time.

[#41 Shoot Em Up]

If nothing comes of these meetings I honestly want Stern to just kaboom the whole season.
At some point this has to stop.. season or no season

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

I'm fine with that at this point. I mean, we've been following these negotiations because as fans we're obviously concerned, but each time they meet for an absurd amount of hours, and get nothing done, what could they possibly do for 14 hours if there isn't any significant progress? Mean mugging each other from across the table, until they can't fight off sleep any longer.

[#41 Shoot Em Up]

I have asked myself that many times.... what could these dudes really be doing for this long in that room?? I honestly feel like these long azz meetings increase the hate each side has for one another.

[#41 Shoot Em Up]

meeting over

[#41 Shoot Em Up]

agreement reached

[DJ Mbenga]

CBS says we have an agreemnt. berger is good but we have to wait out to see if yahoo jumps on the story. usually they are first.

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

No ing way.

[#41 Shoot Em Up]

Joint press conferences, deal done sources say.
YES!!!

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

Well I'll be damned..

[DJ Mbenga]

3:30 am press conference. i wonder if anyone will actually carry it

[Duncan2177]

3:30 am press conference. I wonder if anyone will actually carry it

nbatv

[mattyc]

At ing last.

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

Damn, I started this thread like 3 months ago, can't believe it reached 107 pages, and all the way to the end of this lock-out.

[#41 Shoot Em Up]

well done my friend.