*** Official Israel vs Hamas war #13783478343 thread ***

[Ef-man]

CNN: China bending its knee$$$$

Citing Iranian sources, Reuters reported Friday that Chinese officials asked their Iranian counterparts at several recent meetings to help rein in the Houthis or risk harming business relations with Beijing.

“Basically, China says: ‘If our interests are harmed in any way, it will impact our business with Tehran. So tell the Houthis to show restraint,’” one Iranian official briefed on the talks told Reuters.

Like many global shipping firms, Chinese state-owned shipping giants COSCO and OOCL diverted dozens of ships from the Red Sea to a much longer route around the southern tip of Africa, according to data compiled by Kuehne + Nagel, a logistics company based in Switzerland. Such detours typically add more than 10 days to the journey, delaying deliveries and sending shipping costs soaring.

San Francisco-based global logistics firm Flexport says historically 90% of cargo shipped from China to Europe would have moved through the Red Sea, but now 90% of that traffic is taking a detour around Africa.

Due to the disruption, ocean freight rates from Shanghai to Europe surged more than 300% between November to January, according to the Shanghai Shipping Exchange – posing a big challenge to Chinese exporters in an already slowing economy.

The pressure to act may be coming from China’s regional partners too.

[Ef-man]

CNN: China bending its knee$$$$

Citing Iranian sources, Reuters reported Friday that Chinese officials asked their Iranian counterparts at several recent meetings to help rein in the Houthis or risk harming business relations with Beijing.

“Basically, China says: ‘If our interests are harmed in any way, it will impact our business with Tehran. So tell the Houthis to show restraint,’” one Iranian official briefed on the talks told Reuters.

Like many global shipping firms, Chinese state-owned shipping giants COSCO and OOCL diverted dozens of ships from the Red Sea to a much longer route around the southern tip of Africa, according to data compiled by Kuehne + Nagel, a logistics company based in Switzerland. Such detours typically add more than 10 days to the journey, delaying deliveries and sending shipping costs soaring.

San Francisco-based global logistics firm Flexport says historically 90% of cargo shipped from China to Europe would have moved through the Red Sea, but now 90% of that traffic is taking a detour around Africa.

Due to the disruption, ocean freight rates from Shanghai to Europe surged more than 300% between November to January, according to the Shanghai Shipping Exchange – posing a big challenge to Chinese exporters in an already slowing economy.

The pressure to act may be coming from China’s regional partners too.

CNN: Chyna worried about its economy

China’s top securities regulator has limited short-selling, in its latest effort to stem a protracted $6 trillion-dollar stock market rout that began in 2021.

The China Securities Regulatory Commission announced Sunday it would “fully” suspend the lending of restricted shares on bourses in mainland China.

[diego]

It could have been worse but luckily, these dudes are part of the MAGAs of the Middle east

Another one FAFO

you didnt post anything when IDF killed two woman in a church, prompting the pope to call them terrorists.
or the countless times isreali settlers have killed palestinians, both before and after oct 7, prompting the US state dept to refer to such cases as a "terror attack".

i guess you cant jerk off without a video... its funny, you are anti-far right in the US but a regular MAGAT in Israel

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CNN: China bending its knee$$$$

Citing Iranian sources, Reuters reported Friday that Chinese officials asked their Iranian counterparts at several recent meetings to help rein in the Houthis or risk harming business relations with Beijing.

“Basically, China says: ‘If our interests are harmed in any way, it will impact our business with Tehran. So tell the Houthis to show restraint,’” one Iranian official briefed on the talks told Reuters.

Like many global shipping firms, Chinese state-owned shipping giants COSCO and OOCL diverted dozens of ships from the Red Sea to a much longer route around the southern tip of Africa, according to data compiled by Kuehne + Nagel, a logistics company based in Switzerland. Such detours typically add more than 10 days to the journey, delaying deliveries and sending shipping costs soaring.

San Francisco-based global logistics firm Flexport says historically 90% of cargo shipped from China to Europe would have moved through the Red Sea, but now 90% of that traffic is taking a detour around Africa.

Due to the disruption, ocean freight rates from Shanghai to Europe surged more than 300% between November to January, according to the Shanghai Shipping Exchange – posing a big challenge to Chinese exporters in an already slowing economy.

The pressure to act may be coming from China’s regional partners too.

I don't think it worked, Effy.........Biden has to go back out to Dover again. The children are comin' home.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

you didnt post anything when IDF killed two woman in a church, prompting the pope to call them terrorists.
or the countless times isreali settlers have killed palestinians, both before and after oct 7, prompting the US state dept to refer to such cases as a "terror attack".

i guess you cant jerk off without a video... its funny, you are anti-far right in the US but a regular MAGAT in Israel

Whataboutism. Nice. Israel is a liberal democracy and any soldiers that commit atrocities have a criminal justice system to deal with. I do not see anyone here calling for them to be exonerated.

I particularly like how you have your two political boxes and everyone is supposed to fit in one or the other to be accepted. Being moderate or outside that norm is anathema. Nevermind what the Democratic WH policy is towards the conflict.

[hater]

you didnt post anything when IDF killed two woman in a church, prompting the pope to call them terrorists.
or the countless times isreali settlers have killed palestinians, both before and after oct 7, prompting the US state dept to refer to such cases as a "terror attack".

i guess you cant jerk off without a video... its funny, you are anti-far right in the US but a regular MAGAT in Israel

They are the new neocons in america

That's what 4 years of Russia gate pounding in the head will do to a simpleton

If they really want to clean up USA they need to start with these shillary biden LGBT+++ pro nazi pro Israel lunatics

[pgardn]

Whataboutism. Nice. Israel is a liberal democracy and any soldiers that commit atrocities have a criminal justice system to deal with. I do not see anyone here calling for them to be exonerated.

I particularly like how you have your two political boxes and everyone is supposed to fit in one or the other to be accepted. Being moderate or outside that norm is anathema. Nevermind what the Democratic WH policy is towards the conflict.

Also Israel lets their press criticize them heavily.
The majority of their people want Benji out but not during a conflict like this.
Democracy is far from perfect, its just weird that some people dont get how different this is compared to a group of people who have no choice but to be backed by a terrorist organization. Israel has a choice and they voted for a man who thrives politically when huge conflicts exist. Sounds very Trumpish to me. Trump thrives on internal and external conflicts. So Trump takes real problems and instead of solving them rubs salt in to make sure there are clear political differences so that problems become worse. Or just create more conflict so no one feels like solving them.

[pgardn]

They are the new neocons in america

That's what 4 years of Russia gate pounding in the head will do to a simpleton

If they really want to clean up USA they need to start with these shillary biden LGBT+++ pro nazi pro Israel lunatics

Pretending Russia has not and did not invade another sovereign country. The list is huge.
So Ukraine is part of Russia, full of transexuals, full of Nazis, full of anti Eastern Orthodox... spin the wheel for Hater.
What is Ukraine at present... uhmmm ... lets try too gay for right now.

[hater]

Pretending Russia has not and did not invade another sovereign country. The list is huge.
So Ukraine is part of Russia, full of transexuals, full of Nazis, full of anti Eastern Orthodox... spin the wheel for Hater.
What is Ukraine at present... uhmmm ... lets try too gay for right now.

Exhibit A

[Ef-man]

you didnt post anything when IDF killed two woman in a church, prompting the pope to call them terrorists.
or the countless times isreali settlers have killed palestinians, both before and after oct 7, prompting the US state dept to refer to such cases as a "terror attack".

i guess you cant jerk off without a video... its funny, you are anti-far right in the US but a regular MAGAT in Israel

You could have posted videos about what the IDF or Israelis did before, but you did not, so do not blame me for your shortcomings.

The idiots I posted about were stopped before they could do more damage than they did.

Its funny, right, you in the far right wing can dish it but can’t take it.

You FA and do not like it when you FO that the dildo of consequences does not come with lube.

[Ef-man]

Pretending Russia has not and did not invade another sovereign country. The list is huge.
So Ukraine is part of Russia, full of transexuals, full of Nazis, full of anti Eastern Orthodox... spin the wheel for Hater.
What is Ukraine at present... uhmmm ... lets try too gay for right now.

More hater posting.

Did you expect anything less from a immigrant with a hole country education?

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Whataboutism. Nice. Israel is a liberal democracy and any soldiers that commit atrocities have a criminal justice system to deal with. I do not see anyone here calling for them to be exonerated.

I particularly like how you have your two political boxes and everyone is supposed to fit in one or the other to be accepted. Being moderate or outside that norm is anathema. Nevermind what the Democratic WH policy is towards the conflict.

Just be ever so grateful your ass isn't being set for ouster, Lumps.

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You could have posted videos about what the IDF or Israelis did before, but you did not, so do not blame me for your shortcomings.

The idiots I posted about were stopped before they could do more damage than they did.

Its funny, right, you in the far right wing can dish it but can’t take it.

You FA and do not like it when you FO that the dildo of consequences does not come with lube.

You got oodles of nerve, Effy, When you can't take it, you nag the Sysop endlessly to have me tossed out on my ear.

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you didnt post anything when IDF killed two woman in a church, prompting the pope to call them terrorists.
or the countless times isreali settlers have killed palestinians, both before and after oct 7, prompting the US state dept to refer to such cases as a "terror attack".

i guess you cant jerk off without a video... its funny, you are anti-far right in the US but a regular MAGAT in Israel

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More hater posting.

Did you expect anything less from a immigrant with a hole country education?

Effy!!! sweetheart!!!!!! pumpkinpuss!!!!!!!!!...you regular MAGAT in Israel, you. muhahahahahahaha!!!

[Ef-man]

Yup, they stopped their FA as they saw the FO around the corner

Per CNN: Powerful Iran-backed militia in Iraq to suspend military ops against US forces in region

"In a surprise move, the most powerful Iran-backed militia in Iraq, Kataib Hezbollah, announced on Tuesday the suspension of its military operations against US forces in the region two days after a drone attack killed three US service members and wounded dozens of others."

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Yup, they stopped their FA as they saw the FO around the corner

Per CNN: Powerful Iran-backed militia in Iraq to suspend military ops against US forces in region

"In a surprise move, the most powerful Iran-backed militia in Iraq, Kataib Hezbollah, announced on Tuesday the suspension of its military operations against US forces in the region two days after a drone attack killed three US service members and wounded dozens of others."

...but Iran already FO...you posted it about a fortnight ago. The U.S. went first and bombed Iran for Iran bombing not the U.S., but the Jews. So, then Iran bombed the U.S.. Now Joe has decided how he'll punish Iran for sending him back out to Dover when the children come back home.

Let us proceed...

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Another one FAFO

you didnt post anything when IDF killed two woman in a church, prompting the pope to call them terrorists.
or the countless times isreali settlers have killed palestinians, both before and after oct 7, prompting the US state dept to refer to such cases as a "terror attack".

i guess you cant jerk off without a video... its funny, you are anti-far right in the US but a regular MAGAT in Israel

diego caught ya in' around (your FA) and made ya find out (your own FO), ya "regular MAGAT in Israel", you.

tee, hee.

[Ef-man]

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diego caught ya in' around, Effy...(your FA) and made ya find out (your own FO), ya "regular MAGAT in Israel", you.

tee, hee.

[diego]

It could have been worse but luckily, these dudes are part of the MAGAs of the Middle east

Another one FAFO

Whataboutism. Nice. Israel is a liberal democracy and any soldiers that commit atrocities have a criminal justice system to deal with. I do not see anyone here calling for them to be exonerated.

I particularly like how you have your two political boxes and everyone is supposed to fit in one or the other to be accepted. Being moderate or outside that norm is anathema. Nevermind what the Democratic WH policy is towards the conflict.

Tell me about these israeli soldiers facing criminal justice system. was there a trial for american journalist shireen abu akleh?? that was before october 7, surely it must have happened by now.. i dont have time to check but im willing to wager there are more IDF soldiers in jail for deserting than for criminal misconduct.

I agree that using boxes (like whataboutism) can be problematic but its the nature of language and thought to define things one way or another. But if you are going to be this reductive Im not interested in wasting time on that. Im all for moderates, thats not what i see from efmans war porn set to music, maybe I missed the post where he expressed any kind of opinion on the conflict beyond "israel yay, hamas boo"

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Tell me about these israeli soldiers facing criminal justice system. was there a trial for american journalist shireen abu akleh?? that was before october 7, surely it must have happened by now.. i dont have time to check but im willing to wager there are more IDF soldiers in jail for deserting than for criminal misconduct.

I agree that using boxes (like whataboutism) can be problematic but its the nature of language and thought to define things one way or another. But if you are going to be this reductive Im not interested in wasting time on that. Im all for moderates, thats not what i see from efmans war porn set to music, maybe I missed the post where he expressed any kind of opinion on the conflict beyond "israel yay, hamas boo"

Mop the in' floor with 'em, diego!!!

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Tell me about these israeli soldiers facing criminal justice system. was there a trial for american journalist shireen abu akleh?? that was before october 7, surely it must have happened by now.. i dont have time to check but im willing to wager there are more IDF soldiers in jail for deserting than for criminal misconduct.

I agree that using boxes (like whataboutism) can be problematic but its the nature of language and thought to define things one way or another. But if you are going to be this reductive Im not interested in wasting time on that. Im all for moderates, thats not what i see from efmans war porn set to music, maybe I missed the post where he expressed any kind of opinion on the conflict beyond "israel yay, hamas boo"

https://www.timesofisrael.com/milita...ainee-in-gaza/

Here is the liberal democracy at work just this month.

And I am glad to see that you realize your whataboutism is even as you argue in favor of it. I am sorry that fabbs does not agree with you.

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https://www.timesofisrael.com/milita...ainee-in-gaza/

Here is the liberal democracy at work just this month.

And I am glad to see that you realize your whataboutism is even as you argue in favor of it. I am sorry that fabbs does not agree with you.

Lumps, sweetheart; diego is doing to you what you did to Dumps. How's that brand new asshole diego tore for ya?

muhahahahahahahaha!!!

[FuzzyLumpkins]

And more so, there is a difference in saying that something meets a definition and having only 2 boxes and forcing everything into said boxes to the exclusion of all else. Modern political thought is at core radically oversimplified.