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Aminu or CDR tbh..
Are the Spurs done for this off season?
After watching the way the Spurs operate in free agency for years, my best guess is they are done with all the players they have been rumored or speculated to want.
If they do bring in someone else, none of us will know until it actually happens.
Lets not forget CIA Pop.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11...ove-trade-pushSources say that the Bulls, though, have re-entered the race and would appear to be the biggest threats to the Cavs, thanks largely to the Golden State Warriors' resolute unwillingness to add longtime Wolves target Klay Thompson in any deal.
Although the full extent of the Bulls' offer wasn't immediately known, it is believed Minnesota would seek a package from Chicago featuring forward Taj Gibson and defensive ace Jimmy Butler in addition to other assets. The Bulls shelved their Love interest while trying to sign Carmelo Anthony away from the New York Knicks but, according to sources, have re-emerged as contenders.
Jimmy Butler's defense is really overrated.
Gasol ends up a bench player in Chicago? They still paid more than we could, but I thought one of the reasons was a bigger role with the Bulls.
How ironic would it be if Pau ended up having to come off the bench in Chicago. I think this is just a ploy by the Twolves to scare the the Cavs and force them to give up Wiggins though tbh.
Given the stuff on the market and the fact that so many teams are under the cap with money to spend (thereby overpaying free agents), I see the Spurs standing pat until the buyouts toward the end of the season, where they have the best chance to pick up bargains. Spurs front office is smart enough to not overspend on contracts they'll regret down the road.
Why are they reluctant to cut ayers and sign somebody else? It's hard to repeat because everyone comes at you harder so we do need to upgrade and spend money a little.
The only move I anticipate the Spurs doing is the re-signing of Baynes. I think they're main plan was to bring back the whole team. They did do their due diligence and tested the market to gauge other players' interest. I think they're confident in staying pat, for now.
Yeah.
cdo21, the details trickling out today support my point about them not willing to part with all three of those assets for just Love. Now, it sounds as if they'd also get Dieng back, who'd be a significant piece for them both now and especially in the future. Also, not today, but it has been suggested in the past week that Robinson may also be included.
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ESPN sources say Mavs will be hosting free-agent point guard Jameer Nelson in Dallas for a face-to-face visit Thursday
Jameer for the room exception is a steal. Despite never being truly great, he has been very good and is still an average player. Average players typically get more than that and any dip might be easily explained by a vet playing on a team with no playoff hope. Despite that, he also appeared to be a good teammate/solider and never really complained despite being on a bad team.
Nelson would be a nice pickup for the room exception.
i don't get how much there is to "completing the deal." if all they have is the RE, then there's no real negotiating tbh
Nelson was posted 12ppg, 7 APG last season. Would be a good backup and turns certainty improves their PG rotation. They could also play alot of two PG sets as well with only Ellis and Ledo at SG.
I still think the Rockets could be an option. They have 3 PGs but besides Beverly Canaan and Smith only have 200 games between them.
Nelson played 8 years with Howard and would be much better backup. They could offer him more than the Mavs.
Nelson would be great for the Mavs. Felton just won't cut it on a team with championship aspirations.
As it stands right now,
it looks as though the Cavs will move 2 of their 3 2015 1st round picks along with Bennett. Maybe they could move all 3 and Waiters in place of Wiggins but Minny would likely wait out the 30 days to get Wiggins.
Based on what i've heard:
John Lucas, Malcolm Thomas, Andrew Wiggins & Anthony Bennett + 2 first round picks in 2015
for
Kevin Love & J.J Barea
The Wolves can then waive Thomas and Lucas afterwards. They would save $9 million this season (roughly).
The Wolves are trying to unload Barea and or Martin in a deal along with Love but The Cavs don't have enough expendable salary to take on Martin as well, without adding Waiters to the deal along with Haywood (in place of Thomas)
John Lucas, Brendan Haywood, Andrew Wiggins, Anthony Bennett, Dion Waiters + 2 first round picks in 2015
for
Kevin Love & J.J Barea & Kevin Martin
Thats a great deal for all involved (specifically the second) the Cavs would be looking at a rotation on Irving-Martin-James-Love-Varejao with Barea and Miller, at the moment, to fill out the bench.
The Wolves would be flush with young prospects (Wiggins, Bennett, Waiters, 3 1st rounders -including their own if they miss the postseason, LaVine, Dieng, Mohammed.
Gold Standard mentioned moving Pekovic, I added the Phoenix part because of their need for a big man and they have plenty of trade assets.
Moving Len, Lakers 2015 pick (top 5 protected), & their own pick would give the Wolves the added bonus of bottoming out and keeping the pick they shipped to Phoenix (previously)
As for Love. I am not convinced he is as good as his production. A P.E.R of 26 is downright impressive (he has a P.E.R. of better than 24.3 in 3 of his last 4 full seasons but its almost unheard of for a player to be that productive and miss the postseason. Its not like he has had a poor supporting cast (Rubio, Martin & Pekovic) and he does play in the west but still more often than not great players carry mediocre teams to the playoffs (Garnett & A.I come to mind)
Thats not to say he isn't a fantastic player but I don't think he is capable of dropping 26 & 15 on a championship caliber team. If he can post 22 and 12 that's still a great player.
I'm not so much caught up in Lee and Thompsons raw numbers as i am in the mismatch problems Thompson causes. Very few PGs can truly cover Curry, so many teams throw SGs or SFs on Curry. As a result, Thompson can punish PGs (i.e. Tony Parker) in the post. He's 6'7 and an elite shooter at 2 guard.
Love isn't as much of a mismatch against certain teams, Ibaka is mobile enough to cover Love and the Spurs have Diaw and Splitter (though not sure that would be a good match-up for Tiago).
The argument for not acquiring Love for Cleveland is that they would be a much better defensive team with Wiggins-Lebron-Varejao up front with Lebron and Irving carrying the offensive load and Waiters and to an lesser extend Wiggins chipping in points. They could always ship Bennett or Waiters out in separate deals to bring back veteran rotation players to better balance out the roster. They may not be as good as quickly but as Wiggins improves the team will as well and the franchise could be much better off in the long run with Wiggins over Love considering his ceiling and he is only 19.
Both Canaan and Smith are have about 200 games under their belt. I would think Houston at least gauges his interest, given his familiarity with D12 and his decade on experience.
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