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    Man, I don't doubt you. It was just low-hanging fruit. And you did pick Fathead for your comparison.
    Very true. I got kyle but that 61 year old in Vegas might take me. Need to put that out there for purposes of humility.

    Edited to use the name kyle. A promise is a promise.

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    Well, it's nice to see Kyle and Simms working together in the offseason...If Spurs don't get the talent, they need to increase chemistry to become more solid as a team

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    Very true. I got kyle but that 61 year old in Vegas might take me. Need to put that out there for purposes of humility.

    Edited to use the name kyle. A promise is a promise.
    appreciated.

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    Murray trying hard to be the team's leader. Love the kid's at ude. Makes him a lot more untouchable than his talent and upside warrant. Seems like he wants to be a Spurs more than anyone else on the team.
    I think some guys have too much uncertainty over their heads right now bc they are FA (JSimms, Dedmon, Mills, Lee), then others have been in trade rumors so their future is also uncertain (Danny).

    Only one who is a diva who clearly doesn't want to be a Spur is Lamarcus. He's definitely not Spurs material and is going to be a cancer moving on forward.

    But about Murray: he's a breath of fresh air with all these stupid dramas from divaMarcus.

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    Love murray's enthusiasm. It's genuine too.

    The kid's pride is impressive too. You can't teach that.

    Pride+love for the game+hardwork= recipe for greatnesz.

    I expect big things from this kid.

    I'm calling it now - he will be an all star by his fifth year in the league.

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    I think the Spurs primary target once free agency starts will be Paul Millsap. He does everything well and played under coach Bud for the Spurs of the east. Despite his 32 years of age his injury track record has been great thus far in his career.

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    Wouldn't be a very good one either. To make it in this league as a backup or part of a rotation, you need to have at least one above-average "carrying tool" that you can bring to the table every night. Ben McLemore's 38% 3-point shooting last season isn't nearly high enough to offset the fact that he brings nothing else to the table offensively, and is an underachieving defender (and player overall) with an indifferent at ude. Below-average players on bad teams are not what perennial contenders are looking to import to their roster.
    I agree with you but I wonder what playing for Pop would do to someone with his potential

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    • Six to eight teams are expected to pursue Hawks forward Paul Millsap, tweetsChris Vivlamore of The Atlanta Journal Cons ution. The Nuggets, Spurs and Rockets are teams that have expressed interest in Millsap, although Houston’s plans may be altered by the package it gave the Clippers today in exchange for Chris Paul. New Hawks GM Travis Schlenk has said the Hawks don’t expect to make a full max offer to Millsap.

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    Hope this is true. Would love to see the Spurs with interest in Millsap. Wonder what Plan B is now that Paul is off the table

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    So, with slug Aldridge still on the roster, what would the cap room look like?

    If Milutinov doesn't come, and crippled retiree Parker isn't stretched and dumped ...

    Aldridge
    Kawhi
    Green
    Parker
    Bertans
    Murray
    Anderson
    D. White
    Forbes
    Simmons Qualifying Offer
    Duncan stretch
    LJC waive
    Roster charge

    Gets to about 78.7 ...

    Leaves about 20 million but they still probably owe lazy Gasol, that probably eats 8-10, and what's left isn't enough to sign Hill or Jrue probably.

    Teague and Rose

    Don't want either.

    And room left for Manu or Hanga, minimum maybe for Manu, etc

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    I think the Spurs primary target once free agency starts will be Paul Millsap. He does everything well and played under coach Bud for the Spurs of the east. Despite his 32 years of age his injury track record has been great thus far in his career.
    This. With our draft moves, have plenty of guards. Need more bigs that can play. Great point too on him playing under Coach Bud. Pop will have the inside knowledge on him as far as signing him and how he likes to be coached. Millsap is a lunch pale kind of guy too, he's no primadonna / spotlight hog.

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    Love murray's enthusiasm. It's genuine too.

    The kid's pride is impressive too. You can't teach that.

    Pride+love for the game+hardwork= recipe for greatnesz.

    I expect big things from this kid.

    I'm calling it now - he will be an all star by his fifth year in the league.
    Yup. Love his at ude. This kid will be the glue guy in the future.

    I hope he can also grow into a leadership role. He'll need it as the team's future starting point guard.

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    • Six to eight teams are expected to pursue Hawks forward Paul Millsap, tweetsChris Vivlamore of The Atlanta Journal Cons ution. The Nuggets, Spurs and Rockets are teams that have expressed interest in Millsap, although Houston’s plans may be altered by the package it gave the Clippers today in exchange for Chris Paul. New Hawks GM Travis Schlenk has said the Hawks don’t expect to make a full max offer to Millsap.
    Here comes the Paul Milsap mega thread that'll ultimately be all a fart in the wind, per par.

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    Glad to see more people recognizing how serious Murray will be moving forward. Kid is legit and has star potential -- been saying it for 8 months now.

    Get Millsap to committ.

    Trade LA to PHX for Chriss..use that money for Millsap.

    Trade Green, Kyle Anderson, Derrick White for PG13

    Murray/ Forbes / vet PG/ TP
    PG13/Simmons/ Hanga
    Kawhi/Hanga/ Blossomgame
    Millsap/Bertans
    Chriss/ Pau/Splitter

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    Here comes the Paul Milsap mega thread that'll ultimately be all a fart in the wind, per par.
    Im rooting for Millsap to the Spurs but I took this report with a grain of salt... Same issues as CP3, getting old and gonna want length... But i wasn't about to make a thread. someone else will surely.

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    Media...

    "There's no way the Spurs have the cap space to sign CP3, but Houston can easily afford CP3 and Paul George on max contracts and stay under the cap."

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    Glad to see more people recognizing how serious Murray will be moving forward. Kid is legit and has star potential -- been saying it for 8 months now.

    Get Millsap to committ.

    Trade LA to PHX for Chriss..use that money for Millsap.

    Trade Green, Kyle Anderson, Derrick White for PG13

    Murray/ Forbes / vet PG/ TP
    PG13/Simmons/ Hanga
    Kawhi/Hanga/ Blossomgame
    Millsap/Bertans
    Chriss/ Pau/Splitter
    Those would be great moves, if they happened.

    Sucks to lose Green, but sacrifices would have to be made, and he honestly hasn't helped himself with his icy hot act.

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    This. With our draft moves, have plenty of guards. Need more bigs that can play. Great point too on him playing under Coach Bud. Pop will have the inside knowledge on him as far as signing him and how he likes to be coached. Millsap is a lunch pale kind of guy too, he's no primadonna / spotlight hog.
    Is he worth a near max contract though? If the price is right I would love millsap.

    Would Atlanta pull the trigger on a sign and trade for a one year rental of lma? Doubtful but if the millsap price is right then it is something that should be considered. If they strike out on big men in free agency they might take him as opposed to getting nothing in return.

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    When are we going to get a player that tells their team they only want to go to SA and force their way here

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    Also, while I wouldn't be pissed or anything, I'm not on the Millsap bandwagon. He's basically a worse version of LMA at everything except passing.

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    When are we going to get a player that tells their team they only want to go to SA and force their way here
    When one of pop's relatives makes the nba. Or alternatively, when one of r.c.'s african exchange students make the nba.

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    Glad to see more people recognizing how serious Murray will be moving forward. Kid is legit and has star potential -- been saying it for 8 months now.

    Get Millsap to committ.

    Trade LA to PHX for Chriss..use that money for Millsap.

    Trade Green, Kyle Anderson, Derrick White for PG13

    Murray/ Forbes / vet PG/ TP
    PG13/Simmons/ Hanga
    Kawhi/Hanga/ Blossomgame
    Millsap/Bertans
    Chriss/ Pau/Splitter
    Yeah, they better not touch Murray in any trade scenerio tbh

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    This is where I'm at right now with what I'd like to see

    Murray/White/Parker
    Leonard/Green/Forbes
    Iguodala/Simmons/Blossomgame
    Millsap/Anderson/Bertans
    Gasol/Milutinov/????

    You keep Green. Use cap to sign Andre. 15-18 mill. S&T Aldridge for Millsap, Aldridge going to another team and Atlanta getting a pick from us or other team. Pau Gasol on Mid Level deal. Still have the room exception or bi annual for Hanga or a big and then what's left get another big.

    Love the potential of this lineup though. So many guards to throw on others for defense. Small ball lineup would be great and you would have so many options. I get the Iggy age arguments but let's face he's probably gonna want to win and get more money and you want him off GS. Here he starts and can legitimately have a chance at GS to give them a good series. I'm looking at 3 year deals for both.

    You could close with Simmons/Green/Leonard/Iggy/Millsap. That lineup would be insane on D and not too shabby on offense.

    I've talked myself out of the Hill scenarios cause if you believe Murray is the guard of the future then he needs his space. You have higher upside in Murray and you don't have conflicting rotations.

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    Also, while I wouldn't be pissed or anything, I'm not on the Millsap bandwagon. He's basically a worse version of LMA at everything except passing.
    You realize that the passing is probably the difference between the beautiful game and predictable possessions right? And Millsap performs in the playoffs, not to mention is a character guy that will gladly accept his role.

    He is not a worse Aldridge by any means. He has heart, plays hard, and has overachieved after being overlooked so much.

    If Aldridge could pass, the Spurs offense would flow so much more smoothly... wow

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    Also, while I wouldn't be pissed or anything, I'm not on the Millsap bandwagon. He's basically a worse version of LMA at everything except passing.
    Apparently he is wanting 30 mil a year. At his age, the spurs should take a pass on him. Not worth anything near that price tag.

    These contracts are rising faster than interest rates in the seventies.

    It's like the nba is gizmo and some dumb bas fed it after midnight. It's escalating out if control.

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