2024 NBA Off-Season Thread (FA, Trades, Extensions, Rumors)

[ace3g]

[tbdog]

this is what im referencing

the spurs may well end up extending wemby after year 3

or they may want to wait until his free agency after year 4 to take advantage of the cap hold figure being lower than his eventual salary

they probably dont want to lock them into scenario 1 now by giving a massive 4 year deal to somebody like PG

Wemby gets offered max extension, 1 min after front office can.

[spurraider21]

Wemby gets offered max extension, 1 min after front office can.

thats a possibility. it depends if there's any attempt to utilize cap space in the 2027 offseason or not

we saw the spurs similarly delay Kawhi's rookie extension until he actually hit free agency. that famously allowed us to squeeze in the Aldridge signing

the Sixers just did so with Maxey, and allowed them to sign Paul George

im sure by the time the 2026 offseason rolls around, the spurs will know if they will be in a position to take advantage of the 2027 free agent market or not. if they already project to be over the cap (ie they've already traded for markkanen or some other high priced star), then there's no point in holding off on wemby's extension. but its clear they are at least trying to preserve that possibility, based on Vassell's contract structure, and this new report that they wanted PG for a 3 year deal but not a 4 year deal

[ace3g]

Per Spotrac

Jeff Green (PF)Jul 11, 2024 - Houston (HOU) fully guaranteed $8 million salary for 2024-25

[spurraider21]

Per Spotrac

Jeff Green (PF)Jul 11, 2024 - Houston (HOU) fully guaranteed $8 million salary for 2024-25

i dont know if they would have gained any spending power by letting him go, but still a weird amount of money to spend on a guy who played 17mpg last year and will turn 38 before the season starts

[ace3g]

Upcoming guarantee date for the Spurs:

[jjspur]

Wemby gets offered max extension, 1 min after front office can.

Don't think that they even wait that long. They'll be waiting with the paperwork beforehand. Just sign with a big V right here Wemby.

[3&D_TBH]

Seems to me that the Spurs front office have made solid, grown-up decisions (with their small market in mind) post Kawhi. But I can’t blame them for wanting to frame Wemby’s next ten years with as much flexibility and options as possible. Not much to complain about, really, unless you are an impatient person. Methinks Pop and the fo want to remain dominant once they are dominant. Seems wise. Cheers.

[spurraider21]

Upcoming guarantee date for the Spurs:

considering the maneuvering they had to do to avoid waiving him, i think its safe to say he'll be around

[Chinook]

I'd only been looking at the new media deal superficially, but ESPN put out a bit more detailed article.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...ia-rights-deal

In short:

Mondays -- Pea (some)
Tuesdays -- NBC
Wednedays -- ESPN
Thursdays -- Amazon (after the NFL season ends)
Friday -- ESPN (sometimes), Amazon
Saturday -- Amazon
Sunday -- ABC (Day), NBC (night, after the NFL season ends), ESPN (sometimes)

How are folks feeling about having to subscribe to Pea to watch Spurs in two years? As someone who still has cable, I am quite pretty annoyed at how Pea 's managed to get exclusive broadcast rights to things I was already paying a bunch of money to watch in previous years.

[The Truth #6]

For me Pea is better than Bally in that there will be other content to watch, I suppose, though not sure what exactly.

[ace3g]

[timvp]

Expected ... but good news.

[ismael-robert]

Mamu?

[Degoat]

Yeah what would be the hold up on bringing back Mamu?

[scott]

BRING HIM HOME

[scott]

I'd only been looking at the new media deal superficially, but ESPN put out a bit more detailed article.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...ia-rights-deal

In short:

Mondays -- Pea (some)
Tuesdays -- NBC
Wednedays -- ESPN
Thursdays -- Amazon (after the NFL season ends)
Friday -- ESPN (sometimes), Amazon
Saturday -- Amazon
Sunday -- ABC (Day), NBC (night, after the NFL season ends), ESPN (sometimes)

How are folks feeling about having to subscribe to Pea to watch Spurs in two years? As someone who still has cable, I am quite pretty annoyed at how Pea 's managed to get exclusive broadcast rights to things I was already paying a bunch of money to watch in previous years.

It’s time to cut the cord!

At this point, I’ve been roped into pretty much every streaming service there is… and yeah, it’s not cheaper than cable, but the user experience is much better, aside from having to remember which app has which content. Pea and Paramount+ are the easiest to get mixed up.

[Mr. Body]

All I know is watching premier league on Pea hasn't been the greatest.

[Seventyniner]

I'd only been looking at the new media deal superficially, but ESPN put out a bit more detailed article.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...ia-rights-deal

In short:

Mondays -- Pea (some)
Tuesdays -- NBC
Wednedays -- ESPN
Thursdays -- Amazon (after the NFL season ends)
Friday -- ESPN (sometimes), Amazon
Saturday -- Amazon
Sunday -- ABC (Day), NBC (night, after the NFL season ends), ESPN (sometimes)

How are folks feeling about having to subscribe to Pea to watch Spurs in two years? As someone who still has cable, I am quite pretty annoyed at how Pea 's managed to get exclusive broadcast rights to things I was already paying a bunch of money to watch in previous years.

Why not just get League Pass?

[spursgu]

Loved the Paul signing and Barnes trade. This team needed veterans, kinda like how the Rockets have Vanvleet and Brooks. Spurs should get about 38 - 41 wins, imo. All depends on health. Vassell has a hard time staying healthy as it is.

[taps]

I'd only been looking at the new media deal superficially, but ESPN put out a bit more detailed article.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...ia-rights-deal

In short:

Mondays -- Pea (some)
Tuesdays -- NBC
Wednedays -- ESPN
Thursdays -- Amazon (after the NFL season ends)
Friday -- ESPN (sometimes), Amazon
Saturday -- Amazon
Sunday -- ABC (Day), NBC (night, after the NFL season ends), ESPN (sometimes)

How are folks feeling about having to subscribe to Pea to watch Spurs in two years? As someone who still has cable, I am quite pretty annoyed at how Pea 's managed to get exclusive broadcast rights to things I was already paying a bunch of money to watch in previous years.

Is this what people within the Spurs League Pass media blackout areas in Texas will have to contend with? Meaning even paying for cable and network TV won’t guarantee all the games anymore?
I believe Amazon will take over for Bally Sports content.

[heyheymymy]

Ballys is dead to me for blacking out FSN where I could get MLB games etc

you Diamond Media Group.

[sfernald]

Their lead decision maker, Winger, is a (surprise) white guy, so if they go on to have success at some point during this regime, he'll receive the majority of the credit.

If they go on to be abject failures, Dawkins and Weaver, blacks guys, will receive the majority of the criticism . . . and it won't have anything to do with race, because it never does.

Are you saying the NBA is racist? That almost seems impossible to contemplate. Is that why LeBron gets so much hatred?

[JPB]

Houston added FFV and Brooks last year, and they jumped from 22 to 41 wins. There’s precedent for vet mentorship working.

The most important part was "washep up" (rental) vets. Brooks and FFV are in their prime and improve the team on the court, before talking about mentorship. They can teach by example and earn other players respect with what they bring every night

Everyone (including players) knows Paul and Barnes are probably here for one year and will be nothing more than assistant coaches...

[JPB]

I feel like most NBA fans overreact. Everything is either amazing or garbage with nothing inbetween.

Presti definitely lucked into SGA trade because Kawhi demanded PG.
He also had some really questionable drafts.

But you can't deny that his turnaround was amazing after losing KD.
Got Oladipo for cheap and drafted Sabonis, then traded them for PG.
It's not like PG fell into his lap, it was a process.
Then cashed in on declining Russ and got CP3 in the process.
Traded CP3 away a year later for some more pieces.

Dort is an undrafted all-defense player, Wiggins and Joe were second round picks.
Drafted Giddey in hope he'll develop a jumpshot, managed to flip him before wasting money on an extension and got another all-defense player.

But as many times before, Presti is great until it's time to actually win.
Caruso and Hartenstein were great moves, now it's up to the players to actually win, that's not GM's job.
They're in a great situation.

As I said before, Brian Wright has done really well as a salesman, got us a lot of assets and our cap situation is amazing.
But he'll need to make some winning moves really soon. And that's kind of uncharted territory for him.

What you sas is true but only one finals appearance with 3 future MPVs in Durant, Westbrook and Harden (+ Ibaka) on your roster is underachieving. And OKC didn't do much with what they got for losing the 3 of them. Took them 10 years to get back to contention.