Official 2016 Summer League Thread

[BillMc]

Any chance Bertans will be signed and play tonight?

[SAGirl]

Disappointing that Bertans hasn't played yet, unless that was by design, and the Spurs just wanted him around the coaches/system.

I read earlier in this thread that there were contract issues holding him back. Kind of disappointing that the Spurs seem like they will have an early out bc it may be that contract issue is not resolved in time to see him. But fingers crossed we do.

[SAGirl]

Any chance Bertans will be signed and play tonight?

Nope game was already played:
http://www.nba.com/games/20160713/MI...nba:scoreboard

[SAGirl]

MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES (1-3)
FIELD GOALSREBOUNDS
	POS	MIN	FGM-A	3PM-A	FTM-A	+/-	OFF	DEF	TOT	AST	PF	ST	TO	BS	BA	PTS
S. Suggs	F	28:10	2-7	0-2	0-0	+7	1	5	6	1	2	0	1	0	0	4
D. Thomas	F	18:05	4-6	0-0	1-2	+6	3	2	5	0	4	1	0	1	1	9
A. Payne	C	31:21	8-16	0-3	4-6	+13	2	5	7	2	1	1	1	2	0	20
X. Silas	G	31:50	3-8	2-7	2-2	+7	0	4	4	2	0	1	0	0	0	10
T. Jones	G	33:05	5-13	3-6	2-3	+13	1	2	3	9	0	2	1	0	0	15
T. Murry		21:42	3-8	0-3	0-0	0	0	4	4	2	2	0	2	0	0	6
C. Clarke		20:42	6-11	1-5	3-3	+6	1	3	4	0	2	1	1	0	0	16
K. Punter		05:12	0-1	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
J. Famous		09:53	0-3	0-0	0-0	-7	1	2	3	0	2	1	0	1	0	0
K. Benson	DNP - COACH'S DECISION
M. Deng	DNP - COACH'S DECISION
K. Dunn	DNP - COACH'S DECISION
Total		200	31-73	6-26	12-16		9	27	36	16	13	7	6	4	1	80
			42.5%	23.1%	75.0%		TEAM REBS: 12			TOTAL TO: 8

SAN ANTONIO SPURS (2-2)
FIELD GOALSREBOUNDS
	POS	MIN	FGM-A	3PM-A	FTM-A	+/-	OFF	DEF	TOT	AST	PF	ST	TO	BS	BA	PTS
J. Simmons	F	28:21	9-16	0-2	1-2	-4	0	2	2	1	3	0	2	0	1	19
J. Stokes	F	18:20	3-8	0-0	3-3	-1	4	4	8	1	4	1	1	0	0	9
C. Lalanne	C	15:57	2-3	0-0	0-0	+4	1	5	6	0	3	0	1	0	1	4
D. Murray	G	28:17	5-15	1-5	3-3	-4	2	4	6	1	1	2	2	0	1	14
B. Forbes	G	26:30	2-9	1-4	0-0	0	0	3	3	1	0	0	0	0	0	5
L. Jean Charles		14:37	2-3	0-0	0-0	-17	1	1	2	1	1	0	1	1	0	4
C. Williams		18:14	3-8	3-6	2-3	-7	1	2	3	0	2	0	0	0	0	11
O. Hanlan		06:47	0-1	0-0	0-0	-6	0	0	0	0	1	0	1	0	0	0
W. mings		03:27	0-0	0-0	0-0	-5	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0
R. Arcidiacono		17:57	1-4	0-1	0-0	-5	4	1	5	2	3	0	3	0	0	2
J. Washburn		16:42	1-5	0-2	1-1	-1	0	6	6	1	0	0	0	0	1	3
Y. Ndoye		04:51	0-0	0-0	0-0	+1	0	2	2	0	2	0	0	0	0	0
K. Anderson	NWT - COACH'S DECISION
D. Bertans	NWT - COACH'S DECISION
Q. DeCosey	DNP - COACH'S DECISION
I. Gromovs	DNP - COACH'S DECISION
E. Lorbek	DNP - COACH'S DECISION
L. Nnoko	DNP - COACH'S DECISION
A. Rodriguez	DNP - COACH'S DECISION
Total		200	28-72	5-20	10-12		13	30	43	9	20	3	11	1	4	71
			38.9%	25.0%	83.3%		TEAM REBS: 1			TOTAL TO: 11

[BillMc]

Nope game was already played:
http://www.nba.com/games/20160713/MI...nba:scoreboard

Oops. Clueless me. Thanks!

[siraulo23]

Once again, no back to back for the spurs

[Hoops Czar]

Wow, LJC's -17 sticking out like a sore thumb.

[SAGirl]

Once again, no back to back for the spurs

True spurs hah?

[tonight...you]

I'm saying he's whole first season will be in the D- league getting over himself an getting his bbiq up. You know I ain't lying. I know he's young, so I expect all that. But I thought, he'd play this yr.... He won't. Not for Pop!

The kid's a kid. You knew that going in. It's not his fault. He's under the best development team he can possibly be in. Relax my brother. We warriors together, but let's not let children die upon their shield before they're ready to hold it.

[Kawhitstorm]

LJC already giving up offensive rebounds. What a terrible rebounder for his size and length

Dude is a poor man's Luc Mbah a Moute who has been a pretty mediocre rebounder as a PF.

[tonight...you]

He was ready to start only a few games ago.

Lol. So true. Almost got dem allstar votes to make it too, if the voting would have started and ended that day.

[alpha_HaZE]

I think it's pretty obvious that Murray needs 1) add strength w/o losing his speed and leaping ability, and 2) work on his shoot. I do remember there were similar concerns about KL, and look at him now being one of the best 3pt shooters in the NBA. Dejounte seems motivated enough to put the work in. He is an exciting project! But as we all know if he wants to stay on the floor with Pop, he needs to play defense. Can he? Tony, Manu, and Patty are all defensive liabilities, we don't need another one.

[ElNono]

welp, had to work late today... anything noteworthy this game?

[tonight...you]

welp, had to work late today... anything noteworthy this game?

Just some creative complaining. Some good stuff in there.

[tonight...you]

I think it's pretty obvious that Murray needs 1) add strength w/o losing his speed and leaping ability, and 2) work on his shoot. I do remember there were similar concerns about KL, and look at him now being one of the best 3pt shooters in the NBA. Dejounte seems motivated enough to put the work in. He is an exciting project! But as we all know if he wants to stay on the floor with Pop, he needs to play defense. Can he? Tony, Manu, and Patty are all defensive liabilities, we don't need another one.

Nothing to worry about Dijon right now. The thing will be watching him in next year's summer league . Then we'll see a more decent baseline for improvement and what curve we may have to expect from him.

[ElNono]

Pop will have to design a system that takes advantage of his best players. That is all am saying. If he doesn't get the best out of the young players that he has right now, the team isn't going anywhere. That does require that they get the ball in places they can do something with it (as opposed to spotting up if you are not ideally a spot up shooter, or cutting if you are not a cutter, but Kyle improving the 3 means that he can fit in many more things than he could previously and he will be able to open up the floor for others' running plays and benefitting with open shots for himself.) Just shooting the 3 is unlikely to be all he can do, bc he's a very good passer and with both Diaw and West missing, he will get the ball to find cutters as well as attack for himself much more than you saw previously. Not saying the whole thing will revolve around him or what Simmons can do, but what players call their games will be added into the mix... and Manu has to adapt too. Maybe he's the one cutting and screening more. Maybe he's the one spotting up more. Etc.

I have zero doubts he'll get his chance this year. He has to, this is what they've been working on for 2 seasons.

[ElNono]

Kawhi was CLEARLY a better player than Kyle Anderson from the beginning.

Kyle may still not know who he is as a player. All that point-forward bull didn't help him out. All the talk about him replacing Manu as the first guy off the bench, and facilitating the offense (even remotely like Manu) didn't help, either. And talking about him being a high-post player "like LeBron"? Poop. That's like saying that Boban is a dominating NBA center, because of what he did in garbage time.

Anderson is probably going to get pressed into service more this year. We'll see how much he's developed then.

Pretty much how I feel, and I don't think any of that is a dig on Anderson. He's got a lot to prove at the NBA level, and that doesn't mean he sucks. There's nothing wrong with that. I hope it works out. He definitely put in the work.

[ElNono]

Just some creative complaining. Some good stuff in there.

thanks

[TheGreatYacht]

Dude is a poor man's Luc Mbah a Moute who has been a pretty mediocre rebounder as a PF.

That's what I said earlier too

[Keepin' it real]

The kid's a kid. You knew that going in...

Lol, this clip comes to mind:

[raybies]

I was really disappointed with the way they played. So many turnovers, bad shots, and just plain missed wide open shots. I guess Murray and Simmons had decent games but we could of used another shooter tonight if you catch my riff. Someone who could knock down a shot. Sheesh. Maybe they were fatigued. It was alot of games but oh well. It's just summer league.

[Snaq O'Meal]

I was really disappointed with the way they played. So many turnovers, bad shots, and just plain missed wide open shots. I guess Murray and Simmons had decent games but we could of used another shooter tonight if you catch my riff. Someone who could knock down a shot. Sheesh. Maybe they were fatigued. It was alot of games but oh well. It's just summer league.

Shooters still need someone with decent BBIQ to get them the ball in their preferred spots. Unfortunately, with Anderson's departure, the Spurs have no more of that on the team.

[dbestpro]

Nothing to worry about Dijon right now. The thing will be watching him in next year's summer league . Then we'll see a more decent baseline for improvement and what curve we may have to expect from him.

Dijon? I guess his nickname should be mus seed.

[Solid D]

Even though Forbes has had some missed opportunities to help his team this summer, he is worthy of an investment by the Spurs organization. He will need to work hard but he has a great shooting touch.

LJC just seems to be going through the motions too much and he hasn't really shown a nose for the ball. He's just trying to find his way. Also, I'm not seeing 100% engagement like I'm seeing with some of his teammates getting the big minutes like Lalanne, Simmons, Murray, Arcidiacono, and Forbes.

[TD 21]

The Spurs' bench doesn't have a talent issue at all. There isn't a single player in that second unit who wouldn't be a rotation player on other teams.

I'd take Mbah a Moute in a heartbeat. The Spurs are probably in the Finals if they had him on the team last year.