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Danny Wolf is a second round pick yall.
Danny Wolf is a second round pick yall.
Yeah I cooled on Wolf. Still think he is super intriguing though.
FA market is pretty much just MLE, which will be used on CP3 if he stays.
We're picking too high for Wolf.
Curious about measurements with Wolf
If that guy is really only 6-10, with like a 6-11 wingspan, that'll drop him.
7 foot is the magic hype number that sticks in people's heads.
I think our first pick will be either Fears or Kon and Hawks pick if we don’t trade it will be Fleming or Bryant
Im not as warm to Kon as most are but a Kon/Fleming draft would really address holes if both work out. I think Fears would interest me much more.
I'm not sold on Fleming or Wolf.
Fleming is rather one-dimensional in his offence. It's either spotting up for 3s or setting up at the dunker's spot. There's almost no shot creation or facilitation to set up Wemby or Fox.
Wolf is a big dude who does not play all that big. Good facilitator but also racks up lots of turnovers.
If you merge the two together, you'll get Yaxel Lendeborg: a good rebounder, defender and facilitator who shoots the 3 at an only slightly lower percentage than Fleming.
Only a month to wait for the lottery.
I'll have to trust the Spurs to pick with the same insight they used to get Castle. I'm as concerned about getting rid of current players as adding new ones.
If I had to pick today, it's Kon/Fleming & a wildcard 2nd rounder. If those 2 are not on the board either Fears, Tre Johnson or Murray-Boyles and Sorber or Bryant with the second pick. Condon might be useful with the 2nd round pick, but likely gone by then.
Maybe it's my bias against white guys with headbands, but, Liam McNeely doesn't seem worth either pick.
I don't see any issue with Fleming, with the Atlanta pick, as being problematic. The things he does well, as you cited plus his Defensive potential, is good value at that point. If he could do, or had the potential to do, all of the things you just listed, then he be a top 5 or 6 guy in this draft. He projects as a solid role player with a fairly high floor and lower ceiling.
So, really, it depends on what you're looking for with that pick. If you want a guy ready to contribute early on then go with Fleming. If you prefer a higher ceiling, but lower floor guy, then go with Carter Bryant.
Spurs are higher on McNeeley than most in here are. I expect him to be drafted with one of the picks.
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This is where the Spurs ended up in most important stats. It’s pretty clear they need to improve rebounding which will in turn improve their defense.
I agree with this. The question is, how much he rises after individual workouts? Will we have to take him ar 8 or will the ATL pick get it done?
McNeeley at 8 would be as good as any pick there. Depending on how you feel about Malauch, the draft m really nosedives at 7.
It’s why I’m not terribly sad about the ATL pick being where it (likely) will be.
Analytics deep dive
Defensive Bayesian Performance ranking among nba prospects
Defensive Bayesian Performance Rating reflects the defensive value a player brings to his team when he is on the court. This rating incorporates a player’s individual efficiency stats and on-court play-by-play impact, and also accounts for the defensive strength of other teammates on the floor with him, along with the offensive strength of the opponent’s players on the floor. DBPR is interpreted as the number of defensive points per 100 possessions better than (below) D1 average expected to be allowed by the player’s team if the player were on the court with 9 other average players. A higher rating is better.
- Cooper Flagg - 4.26
- Thomas Sorber - 4.19
- Danny Wolf - 3.41
- Alex Condon - 3.09
- Derik Queen - 3.02
- Johni Broome - 2.97
- Collin Murray-Boyles - 2.78
- Miles Byrd - 2.78
- Ryan Kalbrenner - 2.76
- Kon Knueppel - 2.65
- Nique Clifford - 2.58
- Vladislav Goldin - 2.55
- Boogie Fland - 2.47
- Sion James - 2.43
- Carter Bryant - 2.36
- Adou Thiero - 2.34
- Khaman Maluach - 2.32
- Milos Uzan - 2.27
- Jase Richardson - 2.11
- VJ Edgecombe - 2.08
- Rasheer Fleming - 2.06
- Kam Jones - 2.05
- Walter Clayton - 2.05
- Darrion Williams - 1.98
- Liam Mcneely - 1.95
According to this particular analysis of defense for prospects these are the top 25 prospects when it comes to defense.
Notes
The top 2 defensive prospects in this class far and away are Flagg and Sorber according to this analysis.
Shocked by some of the names on here but one thing is clear. Rebounding matters. Derik Queen rates as an effective player on defense because of his rebounding. Same as Mcneely. 6 rpg from a wing is good. High IQ matters. Most would not consider Kon Knueppel a top 10 defensive player in this draft. Analytics say otherwise. You watch the film and he doesn’t stand out on that end but the numbers say otherwise.
Also pleasantly surprised to see two smaller players in particular on this list in Fland and Richardson.
Most players don’t change too much of who they are from when they were in college. Don’t confuse that with me saying they don’t develop or become better players. You watch tape like this and you can identify really quick who Bassey is even if the video didn’t have him in the le. The reason I’m saying this is because a lot of folks project a lot onto players like Malauch and someone like Newell due to their physical characteristics.
I also don’t see the value in going for a player whose archetype is a dime a dozen. These 3 pt only shooter types like McNeeley may address a team need (which according to scottspurs it isn’t even a team need), but I don’t see him being any better than what Champagnie brings… and worse yet, knowing this coaching staff I don’t think he’s talented enough to beat Julian out from the rotation.
Anybody who is brought in has to either be definitely better than current rotation players or brings something else that would justify their minutes.
I find it hard to take this seriously with Queen up on that list. A traffic cone is a better defender.
Rebounding matters. He helps any team he is on day 1 as a very good rebounder. Check the spurs rebounding numbers and it’s not hard to see that the spurs biggest weakness is getting the ball back into their possession.
If you look at the numbers shooting is luxury for the Spurs. What they need is defense and rebounding. The Spurs will be picking in the lottery again next year if they don’t rebound a lot better.
Analytics deep dive 2
- Box DBPR: Box Defensive Bayesian Performance Rating is an estimate of a player’s defensive value, based only on his individual box stats. This serves as a prior starting point when calculating DBPR.
Top Box DBPR players in this draft class
- Johni Broome - 3.53
- Collin Murray-Boyles - 2.93
- Cooper Flagg - 2.88
- Carter Bryant - 2.71
- Danny Wolf - 2.65
- Labaron Philon - 2.65
- Alex Condon - 2.62
- Miles Byrd - 2.58
- VJ Edgecombe - 2.54
- Adou Thiero - 2.44
- Trevon Brazile - 2.31
- Ryan Kalkbrenner- 2.28
- Derik Queen - 2.27
- Vladislav Goldin - 2.23
- Thomas Sorber - 2.21
- Jeremiah Fears - 2.00
- Walter Clayton - 1.92
- Chaz Lanier - 1.91
- Asa Newell - 1.87
- Tahaad Pettifoed - 1.79
- Khaman Maluach - 1.75
- Dylan Harper - 1.74
- Maxime Raynaud - 1.67
- Darrion Williams - 1.65
- Koby Brea - 1.59
This is a defensive analysis that is based solely off the box score and rates these players as the top defensive prospects in this class. I don’t take this analysis model very seriously because it doesn’t factor in a lot but it’s still interesting to look at. Taking notes of the guys like Flagg and Murray-Boyles that keep showing up at the top of these analytics defensively
Wemby
Fox
Castle
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Fleming
Wolf
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Reid
Cameron.....
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Barnes
Champagne
Been watching CMB more and I’m afraid I have to drop him a bit down again. His offense is more rudimentary than I realized— the way he scores reminds me very much of Keldon. He drives seeking physical contact (not a bad thing in itself) but when he throws it up it almost looks like a prayer every time. He may be exceptional on defense but if his offense is as basic as it appears then I think next year’s offense won’t be significantly improved.
Tier 1 - No brainer
Flagg
Harper
Tier 2 - Exciting picks
Kon
Jase Richardson
Sorber
Queen
Tier 3 - Talented, but I have serious concerns
VJ Edgecombe
Fleming
Bailey
Tre Johnson
Saraf
Tier 4 - Talented, but the fit is terrible
CMB
Wolf
Tier 5 - High risk, high reward
Carter Bryant
Demin
DeLarrea
Hugo
Noa
Tier 6 - Safe picks
Riley
Kasparas
Fears
Tier 7 - Meh
Asa Newell
Traore
Malauch
Tier 8 - Bust
McNeeley
Wemby
Fox
Castle
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Fleming
Wolf
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Reid
Cameron.....
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Barnes
Champagne
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is already a complete deck guys
we can start The Beautiful Game 2.0 2025 Edition
Wemby at center
Reid and Cameron at forward
Fox and Castle at guard
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Wolf
Barnes
Fleming
CP3/Wesley
Champagne
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Biyombo
Mamu....!!!!
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