Atheism on the rise in every single US state.

[Phenomanul]

So, the do entation of human history is flawed, yet the bible is flawless??

The Bible was never part of my argument... as you had already thrown it out in a disclaimer...

But even within those constraints I held that you could not keep claiming that every event in history has been do ented...

Nevertheless, you keep insisting that they have... for in your mind, lack of do entation was proof enough that said event(s) never really took place...

You stated:

There is no do ented proof that GOD ever presented himself to earthlings [mankind].

I then stated that your comment could not be proven either way.

You said it had to, as grand an event as that would be...

I said not necessarily... for if history was never explicitly do ented to perfection from the get-go... that you couldn't then hold instances of that particular event to the same standard....

Then your strawman fell.... you changed the subject by throwing an irrelevant jab... and here we are.

[CuckingFunt]

that is one of the creepiest posts i've ever read.

that smiley and the use of the phrase "Book it" puts it over the top.

Agreed.

[Blake]

According to the Bible, even someone who has sinned all their life and done so willingly, may be saved on their deathbed if all they do is accept and BELIEVE Jesus has forgiven them of their sins. Someone who has will get to heaven, period.

No matter if you believe we evolved from monkeys.

No matter if you murdered someone, or stole a thousand times. Jesus wasn't crucified alone - the story related in the gospels of those two men receiving (or at least being preached) forgiveness as they too, met a grisly fate on the crosses, is one of the most hopeful stories in all of the Bible.

No matter if you receive the mark of the beast.......

oh wait.....

[Blake]

If God came down and made the world a peaceful, perfect place, what use is there of heaven? even you would be forced to believe in God if he physically revealed himself.

true or false: you lose "free will" after you die and go to Heaven?

[Blake]

You're 15 I'm guessing?

I won't respond to a child's meanderings furthermore, besides this: God is justice and morality, and cutting down non-believers when Jesus died on the cross for them too, would be abhorrently immoral and unjust.

true or false: Jews will go to Heaven

You want God to forcefeed himself down your throat, it'll never happen bro - that's why we're on this earth, for a choice, at least according to the Bible.

true or false: free will is lost after you die and go to Heaven

oh wait....already did that one.

[Blake]

So we agree that it IS a choice? You're completely right otherwise. Nothing forces you to choose Jesus, Allah and Mohammed, the Annunaki, or nothing at all.

An interesting analogy. You're accepting the fact you or may not like the flavor of grapefruit, but your choice is whether to eat it or not. If you "eat" God's word, you may or may not like the flavor, yet the grapefruit (god's word) continues to exist whether you like its flavor or you don't. that grapefruit may taste like so much now, but it won't eventually (or when you're in heaven).

true or false: you lose free will when you get to Heaven

godammit, I forgot I already asked this....

[Borosai]

God is boring. Satan is quirky. Difficult choice.

[DAF86]

probably? i thought the science was settled. nice fail by the athiests. funny that dawkins headed this.

probably


what a campaign

Yes probably, 'cause we atheist, don't claim something to be certain unless we're 100% sure of it. Are you telling me that you're 100% sure that there's a God?

For me to bealive in something, I gotta be sure it exists, that's why I don't bealive in God, Aliens, Ghosts, etc. but you'll not see me around saying "God doesn't exist" I just won't bealive untill somebody brings me some proves that make me change my mind.

[I Love Me Some Me]

Yes probably, 'cause we atheist, don't claim something to be certain unless we're 100% sure of it. Are you telling me that you're 100% sure that there's a God?

For me to bealive in something, I gotta be sure it exists, that's why I don't bealive in God, Aliens, Ghosts, etc. but you'll not see me around saying "God doesn't exist" I just won't bealive untill somebody brings me some proves that make me change my mind.

I thought the very definition of ATHEISM was the belief that there was no God...not the belief that there is PROBABLY no God.

[Cane]

The Bible's a load of . Same deal with the other religions. Its only a matter of time before America catches up with the rest of our first-world country counterparts and remove the stupid religious backdrop that our government's decisions are based around. I want my legalized pros utes dammit!

[Blake]

If there really was a God would he let Jesus get dunked on like this?

that has to be fake. Jesus doesn't wear Converse.

[Blake]

You stated:

There is no do ented proof that GOD ever presented himself to earthlings [mankind].

I then stated that your comment could not be proven either way.

you can't prove that do ented proof doesn't exist any more than you can prove that God doesn't exist.

His comment could actually be proven if there was do ented proof that God presented himself to earthlings [mankind].

you fail.

[LnGrrrR]

I thought the very definition of ATHEISM was the belief that there was no God...not the belief that there is PROBABLY no God.

As I stated earlier:

Atheism = Without Belief
Agnosticism = Without Knowledge

I can not believe in something, even if I do not know for sure if he, or she, of they, or something else is up/out there.

[I Love Me Some Me]

As I stated earlier:

Atheism = Without Belief
Agnosticism = Without Knowledge

I can not believe in something, even if I do not know for sure if he, or she, of they, or something else is up/out there.

So atheism means you don't believe in a higher power, although one might exist?

Or it means, you don't believe one exists?

[SpuronyourFace]

atheism is gay.

[DAF86]

I thought the very definition of ATHEISM was the belief that there was no God...not the belief that there is PROBABLY no God.

You're obviously a religious guy, so you bealive that there's a God. Now let me ask you, are you 100% sure that said God exists?

[LnGrrrR]

So atheism means you don't believe in a higher power, although one might exist?

Or it means, you don't believe one exists?

Atheism is a matter of belief. Whether you believe in something or not. (Yes, the gnereal population tends to say agnostic means you don't know but you don't believe, and atheist means you KNOW and don't believe, but that's somewhat a bas ization.)

I personally do not believe in a higher power. I do not know for sure whether one exists or not.

[I Love Me Some Me]

You're obviously a religious guy, so you bealive that there's a God. Now let me ask you, are you 100% sure that said God exists?

Yes I believe, and yes I'm 100% sure.

And before you ask....no, I cannot provide you with empirical evidence to support that knowledge. It is based on my personal life experiences. It would be futile to attempt to explain those experiences with someone who is not spritual, and does not believe.

[I Love Me Some Me]

Atheism is a matter of belief.

Like a religion.

[LnGrrrR]

Like a religion.

Except religions have specific tenets, creeds, culture, etc, and atheism does not.

[LnGrrrR]

Yes I believe, and yes I'm 100% sure.

And before you ask....no, I cannot provide you with empirical evidence to support that knowledge. It is based on my personal life experiences. It would be futile to attempt to explain those experiences with someone who is not spritual, and does not believe.

Making you a gnostic theist.

[I Love Me Some Me]

Except religions have specific tenets, creeds, culture, etc, and atheism does not.

But, a belief system nonetheless.

[DoubtingThomas]

I've read some pretty interesting posts in here.

[angel_luv]

Yes I believe, and yes I'm 100% sure.

And before you ask....no, I cannot provide you with empirical evidence to support that knowledge. It is based on my personal life experiences. It would be futile to attempt to explain those experiences with someone who is not spritual, and does not believe.

" We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us. This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words.
The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. "

( 1 Cor 2:12-14)

[tlongII]

As I stated earlier:

Atheism = Without Belief
Agnosticism = Without Knowledge

I can not believe in something, even if I do not know for sure if he, or she, of they, or something else is up/out there.

Actually atheists don't believe in God and agnostics don't care. I consider myself agnostic.