Page 12 of 12 FirstFirst ... 289101112
Results 276 to 285 of 285
  1. #276
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Post Count
    1,507
    Rasheed to Boston

    Rasheed to San Antonio


    Either way, that's bad news for the Lakers


    FTL
    Provided the key Spurs (Duncan, Ginobili) and Celtics (Kevin Garnett, Powe) are healthy........

    However, I think the Laker faithful will be quick to disagree....I expect the smacktalk to begin any moment.
    Last edited by mytespurs; 07-01-2009 at 04:54 PM.

  2. #277
    Scrumtrulescent
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Post Count
    9,724
    no, you most definitely don't
    it's the most meaningful statistic over the course of the season or more, no one or even 2 other stats are as all-encompassingly telling about a player's effect on the success of a team; and all other stats are represented to some extent in the +/-.
    it's not dependent on who someone shares the court with because over the course of the season everyone shares the court with everyone else. if you want, and it can be weighted to treat all 5 man units equally instead of based on how many minutes that unit played together. basketballvalue.com does that, sometimes it has a big effect, it can flush out interesting anomalies.
    Fair enough. So it's your contention that since Matt Bonner has a +/- higher than Duncan or Parker, and +/- is the most meaningfull, all encompassing statistic to meaure a player's effect on the success of a team that Matt Bonner had a greater effect on the success of the Spurs this year than Tim Duncan or Tony Parker did. Nevermind the other stats, they all get rolled up into +/-. Bonner's the guy. I understand now. I'm glad we got that settled.

  3. #278
    I Got Hops Extra Stout's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Post Count
    13,614
    +/- is most useful when comparing 5-man lineups a team fields.

    For individuals, it is at best an indirect stat.

    Calling it "the most important" is just a case of stat geek getting the vapors.

  4. #279
    Believe. 4RINGS's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Post Count
    336
    Fair enough. So it's your contention that since Matt Bonner has a +/- higher than Duncan or Parker, and +/- is the most meaningfull, all encompassing statistic to meaure a player's effect on the success of a team that Matt Bonner had a greater effect on the success of the Spurs this year than Tim Duncan or Tony Parker did. Nevermind the other stats, they all get rolled up into +/-. Bonner's the guy. I understand now. I'm glad we got that settled.

    "Stats are for losers" Muschamp said. "I like winning games."

  5. #280
    Veteran Mel_13's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Post Count
    14,367
    Fair enough. So it's your contention that since Matt Bonner has a +/- higher than Duncan or Parker, and +/- is the most meaningfull, all encompassing statistic to meaure a player's effect on the success of a team that Matt Bonner had a greater effect on the success of the Spurs this year than Tim Duncan or Tony Parker did. Nevermind the other stats, they all get rolled up into +/-. Bonner's the guy. I understand now. I'm glad we got that settled.
    case closed

  6. #281
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Post Count
    3,454
    Fair enough. So it's your contention that since Matt Bonner has a +/- higher than Duncan or Parker, and +/- is the most meaningfull, all encompassing statistic to meaure a player's effect on the success of a team that Matt Bonner had a greater effect on the success of the Spurs this year than Tim Duncan or Tony Parker did. Nevermind the other stats, they all get rolled up into +/-. Bonner's the guy. I understand now. I'm glad we got that settled.
    + 1.

    Very nice !

  7. #282
    Veteran Chillen's Avatar
    My Team
    Chicago Bulls
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Post Count
    2,391
    It would not surprise me the least to see Sheed sign with Boston for the MLE. Garnett cares about his team and players, Sheed is an East coast guy. However imo he is a better fit for the Spurs, they need him badly.

  8. #283
    One of the most best jag's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Post Count
    13,882
    Celtics continue to recruit Wallace

    Here’s how badly the Boston Celtics believe Rasheed Wallace(notes) can be the difference in winning an 18th NBA championship next season: Coach Doc Rivers and the Big Three were planning a recruiting trip to woo him, possibly as early as Wednesday afternoon, league sources said.

    The Celtics are targeting Wallace with the midlevel exception and sources say the team – which could be willing to pay a steep luxury tax – is also pursuing Phoenix’s Grant Hill(notes). Sources say that Celtics management met with Wallace late last night, and that they would be followed with a visit from the coach, as well Kevin Garnett(notes), Paul Pierce(notes) and Ray Allen(notes). Garnett and Wallace have a close relationship.


    Boston officials are convinced that these next 24 to 48 hours are critical in overtaking the Cleveland Cavaliers and Orlando Magic in the Eastern Conference, and eventually, the defending champion Los Angeles Lakers.

    Wallace, who turns 35 in September, is the free agent power forward that most of the contenders covet, including Cleveland, Orlando, San Antonio and Dallas.
    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns
    I wonder if the Spurs have sent out Jacque Vaughn yet to work on Wallace.

  9. #284
    Chunky Brazil's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Post Count
    30,520
    celtics continue to recruit wallace

    here’s how badly the boston celtics believe rasheed wallace(notes) can be the difference in winning an 18th nba championship next season: Coach doc rivers and the big three were planning a recruiting trip to woo him, possibly as early as wednesday afternoon, league sources said.

    The celtics are targeting wallace with the midlevel exception and sources say the team – which could be willing to pay a steep luxury tax – is also pursuing phoenix’s grant hill(notes). Sources say that celtics management met with wallace late last night, and that they would be followed with a visit from the coach, as well kevin garnett(notes), paul pierce(notes) and ray allen(notes). Garnett and wallace have a close relationship.


    Boston officials are convinced that these next 24 to 48 hours are critical in overtaking the cleveland cavaliers and orlando magic in the eastern conference, and eventually, the defending champion los angeles lakers.

    Wallace, who turns 35 in september, is the free agent power forward that most of the contenders covet, including cleveland, orlando, san antonio and dallas.
    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns
    ftc !!!!!!

  10. #285
    In Manu we STILL trust! rayray2k8's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Post Count
    5,635
    Kinda reminds you of when Miami pulled out all the stops to lure Finely....






Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •