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That might be what eventually happens in this case.
Yeah. Oh yeah.
That might be what eventually happens in this case.
Last edited by Winehole23; 10-19-2009 at 04:09 PM.
Anyone with the slighest amount of political savvy should be able to ruin any of the 30 in bent Republican senators who voted against this.
They can flat out air commercials that have pictures of them and the words "I support rape" and could get away with it.
The hissy fit provoked thereby would be dire, but the place the 30 GOP Senators chose to make a stand was odd, to say the least.
So, let's see if I have the facts straight.
1) Woman gangraped
2) Woman tries to sue
3) Woman possibly can't sue because of arbitration clause
4) DOJ might not prosecute
5) ?????
6) Justice
That's about right, isn't it?
I believe 5) would be "Republicans rush to defend Haliburton and leave huge legal loophole in place for this to happen again".
This is actually one of the most depressing things I've ever read as an American citizen. I guess the "poor little multibillion dollar corporation with tens to hundreds of high paid attorneys" needs a lot of help from the GOP to protect itself.
This entire story makes me sick to my stomach.
between 1 and 2, you need:
Woman can't call police because she's in Iraq, working for a defense contractor that has legal immunity.
The possibility of 6) hinges very much on 5) IMO.
At a minimum that would involve DOJ growing a spine and publicly denouncing the various abuses dealt to Ms. Jones, if it cannot punish them as crimes.
Reconsider, elbamba?Orly? See this. And this. This too. War risk surcharge. Debt peonage. Human trafficking. Substandard food. Unsafe water. Covering up gang rape.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...ry+halliburton
Last edited by Winehole23; 10-20-2009 at 11:12 AM.
Prison gang rape is a way worse problem.
Supposedly 20% of prison inmates report being sexually abused, and the problem is worse in county lockups.
One of the founders of Stop Prison Rape (now called something else) got gang raped 60 times in a 2 day period. Needless to say, he required rectal reconstruction.
Sure. Perhaps that deserves its own thread, z0sa. This case does at least show what sort of thing can happen when contractors are given *too broad* immunity to US law.
Bottom line, making arbitration optional for certain very heinous and violent crimes like rape, does not seem an undue burden to commerce, unless rape is very common.
My point is that much worse things occur concerning rape than this one. I'm not defending the Republican senators, quite the opposite. A huge injustice occurs everyday (prison rape), which is the most demeaning and torturous existence I can think of. Some normal guy busted for pot being a gangmember's and traded for cigarettes and ultimately dying of AIDS is commonplace because of our Justice system and these same politicians who choose to focus on their next campaign rather than the overload of fixable problems.
The tuff on crime handshake with the prison-industrial-courthouse complex is very expensive in the long term; the fiscal condition of the states -- even Texas -- is starting to overrun law-and-order pla udes. It just costs too much to throw everybody you don't like in prison.Some normal guy busted for pot being a gangmember's and traded for cigarettes and ultimately dying of AIDS is commonplace because of our Justice system and these same politicians who choose to focus on their next campaign rather than the overload of fixable problems.
Texas has the worst rate of prison rape according to inmates, yet reports the least.
Yes! We're number 1 in uninsured people and prison rape!!! But we did pass tort reform!
I find that believable.
Prison rape deserves it's own thread IMO. Do you have any links handy, z0sa?
And the worst injustice of all - due to a supreme lack of operating staff and therefore, corroborative evidence, the DoJ essentially denies there is a problem:
According to the study conducted by the United States Department of Justice for the year 2006, there were 2,205 allegations of inmate-on-inmate nonconsensual sexual acts reported, total, in the U.S. prison system. 262 of the allegations were substantiated.[4]
Just google it, Winehole23.
Imagine being forced into sexual slavery everyday, and being forced into talking in a high pitch and being forced into wearing a mixture of vaseline and koolaid from the commisary for lipstick.
Last edited by z0sa; 10-20-2009 at 12:29 PM.
Well, you brought it up. Are you averse to sharing?
After all, it's your hobby horse, not mine.
It's simply gathered information. I encourage everyone to take a long, good look into it because it's frightening. The SPR guy who got raped 60 times in 2 days? He was arrested for a peaceful quaker demonstration at the White House.
IE, this could happen to you.
Hobby horse? really?After all, it's your hobby horse, not mine.
No offense intended,z0sa. You're the one who keeps pushing it forward, is all.
Well its because I find these types of topics so ridiculously futile. Big Corporation s you in your contract, then actually s you, and you want to act like you never signed said contract, and out of pity and horror a movement in the USG wants to pass legislature to avert this happening again and those brave money grubbers stand up against that, blah blah blah
All this about one rape case, while everyday hundreds of people are going through far more damaging and demeaning and horrifying rituals of rape, because it is over and over day after day, and there's actually a clause in the consitution protecting them from it (cruel and unusual punishment), no additional legislature needed.
the DoJ hides prison rape from the world and denies those victims medical and psychological support every day, why does it surprise anyone other powerful en ies will attempt to do the same...
Last edited by z0sa; 10-20-2009 at 12:45 PM.
z0sa would apparently rather kill this thread than enlighten us in one he posts himself.
I'm ok with that.
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