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    Orange Whip? Orange Whip? Viva Las Espuelas's Avatar
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    Conan's ratings were HALF Leno's before he left. HALF.

    No bueno señores!
    Old people need their sleep

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    One of the most stupidest shows in tv history.

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    One of the most stupidest shows in tv history.
    According to you...

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    I like Family Guy. The old Simpsons where Conan was a writer is some of the best episodes they ever had.


    I couldn't agree more!

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    Eh, Fuck It. easjer's Avatar
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    Umm. In Leno's defense, which isnt much here I guess....


    The ratings he was getting in his variety show werent unexpected. Weren't they exactly what NBC was expecting to get at that hour?

    So how did he fail exactly in his spot?


    The blame really goes on NBC executives more than anything else...I think.
    It does go on NBC execs, certainly.

    Their expectations cost affiliates millions of dollars in viewership/advertising. If they were expecting the ratings to be so low, they ought to have informed affiliates, because the ratings drops offs were tremendous.

    This is even worse, in terms of cost, to NBC than their badly mishandled winter Olympics bid.

    NBC may have been happy with those ratings, but it was a huge drop off for locals. That is the problem. The affiliates were hemorrhaging money and forced NBC to pull it. Rather than pulling it, they tried to move it all back, and here we are today, mourning the end of the Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien.

    If they really wanted to keep both and their credibility, there were options other than moving Jay to the old Tonight Show slot. They could have reduced him to once a week, or barring that due to contractual obligations, moved him in front of Jimmy Fallon - following the Tonight Show. But we know that wouldn't work because Leno's demographics wouldn't be awake at that point.

    I don't Leno deserves quite all the heat he's taken (even from me), but I agree that I lost a lot of respect for him because of this debacle and I will not watch his shows in future.

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    Eh, Fuck It. easjer's Avatar
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    As for Conan, he is absolutely witty and intelligent. It's clear that you miss many of the jokes. Much of the comedy is meta-comedy. We're all in on the joke, that is what makes something ridiculous like the Masturbating Bear funny. If you don't get that, then you don't understand or appreciate truly intelligent humor.

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    the Masturbating Bear ...truly intelligent humor.
    Did you really use these 2 in the same paragraph?

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    If you think Leno is funnier than Conan then you're probably at least 50 years old and never ever saw Late Night with Conan O'Brien because you go to bed too early. Leno cares about money, his ego, and fame. Conan makes a fool out of himself every show that he does. That's one reason why Conan is funnier than Leno. Conan doesn't give a about what people think about him. He wants to make people laugh even if the laughs are about him.

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    I like them both. Wish them both luck. I'm not quite 50 but they are different styles so I don't really think one is funnier than the other. Both have great skits and I enjoy them both. My bad, I like all three of them. David Letterman cracks me up too. I'll take a good laugh anywhere I can get one.

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    Am chilling and getting ready for the last.....of Conan....

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    and Neil Young....

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    Neil Young rocks!!!

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    yeah Will Ferrell singing Free Bird, lol

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    Conan was classy in his exit from the Tonight Show, way to go NBC, you are letting go one of the best Late Night hosts ever, good luck getting ratings from Jay Leno and Jimmy Fallon, best of luck to you Conan hopefully to a network that actually wants you

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    rofl jimmy fallon

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    God, I hate the ing "intelligent humor" police. Go to a museum sometime and see the kind of humor that survives the test of time. It'll usually be something like a Greek comic in a ridiculous mask with giant fake penis hanging out of his skirt, bending over and letting out a giant fart. Humor in the style of Monty Python and Jackass is derided by the pretentious, and laughed at by those with senses of humor.

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    the Masturbating Bear ...truly intelligent humor.
    Did you really use these 2 in the same paragraph?
    Cheap laughs and intelligent humor are, in fact, not mutually exclusive.

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    Ummm, if there's anything better than Conan on guitar and Ferrel playing the cowbell to close things out, I don't know what it is.

    Can't wait to see Conan on FOX in september (I hope)

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    it really was stupid. leno was kicking lettermans ass...then nbc got y and figured hed kick ass at 9 and then hoped that conan could hold his own against letterman...

    personally i think letterman sucks compared to leno.. i tried to watch conan, but he really was painful. he reminds me of the ty comedians that get 1-2 minutes before a real comedian comes on stage. i had to watch letterman at that time.

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    Ummm, if there's anything better than Conan on guitar and Ferrel playing the cowbell to close things out, I don't know what it is.

    Can't wait to see Conan on FOX in september (I hope)
    It's too bad the Hanks interview sucked though Freebird was a great way to close out the show.

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    It's too bad the Hanks interview sucked though Freebird was a great way to close out the show.
    Agreed, the Hanks interview was underwhelming

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    A masturbating bear is not intelligent humor, and she tried to claim that those who are not into Conan do not appreciate intelligent humor. That is just pretentious, acting as if Conan is too lofty for some people to get it.

    George Carlin-- now that's intelligent humor.

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    George Carlin-- now that's intelligent humor.
    and silly puns and semantic jokes. no one's above it.

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    tried to claim that those who are not into Conan do not appreciate intelligent humor. That is just pretentious, acting as if Conan is too lofty for some people to get it.
    agree

    its like international soccerfan who tells you you don't understand the game

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    ok first of all

    here are the things that we know

    Miamiheat, heat fan, neocon, thinks family guy is better than simpsons and friends is better than seinfeld

    we know this

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