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    dont' worry in 3 years the Spurs will trade 3 aging stars for Salmons or Gooden.......

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    so is rj coming back if he does i say the spurs until he is off this team

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    so is rj coming back if he does i say the spurs until he is off this team
    How about you just stop posting until RJ is gone for good.

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    so is rj coming back if he does i say the spurs until he is off this team
    Great username/post combo.

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    I sure am glad Bruce Bowen for a million a year is off the team.
    Spending money on RJ, seeing CIA Pop work with RJ both last year and the next 2-3 years at a total of 30+ million is so much more worth it.
    Spurs should be much more loyal by giving more money to RJ then that Bruce guy.


    I wanna party with Pop, RJ and the PopApologists!

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    Great username/post combo.
    Haha, I was thinking the same thing

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    No updates yet.. this is driving me crazy.. If his contract is too big (8mil+) for multiple years then that could be bad news. but if its a fair long term contract I wouldnt be against it since we wont find anyone else with his talent level... Im still not convinced that he will NEVER fit..

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    No updates yet.. this is driving me crazy.. If his contract is too big (8mil+) for multiple years then that could be bad news. but if its a fair long term contract I wouldnt be against it since we wont find anyone else with his talent level... Im still not convinced that he will NEVER fit..
    But was there any evidence whatsoever that he might fit one day in the future? $8m/year is nothing to sneeze at. It'd be one thing if there was a point late in the year where it clicked for him. But he was worse in the playoffs than he was in the regular season.

    I guess my point is that I'm not willing to compromise the three years after 2011 just for a (very slightly) better shot at winning it all in 2011 (still a long shot even with RJ). Not that RJ would be a complete albatross, but he'd just be eating cap room and it would be a chore to move him.

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    Salmons just got a $40 million deal. The chances of getting RJ on the cheap are sinking.
    Salmons is better.

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    I guess my point is that I'm not willing to compromise the three years after 2011 just for a (very slightly) better shot at winning it all in 2011 (still a long shot even with RJ). Not that RJ would be a complete albatross, but he'd just be eating cap room and it would be a chore to move him.
    Compromise WHAT from 2012-2014? You're talking about Duncan and Manu in decline at that point (if not already). We might have Parker - but maybe not.

    Beyond that a team built around Hill, Blair, and Splitter might be solid - possibly playoff worthy, but they won't be just some cap room away from a championship.

    The rebuild is coming, it happens to everyone eventually. We're very lucky as fans that we've gone roughly 20 years without a real one. If, during that time, the biggest of our concerns is RJ eating up some cap room - then we'll have it pretty good.

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    Compromise WHAT from 2012-2014? You're talking about Duncan and Manu in decline at that point (if not already). We might have Parker - but maybe not.

    Beyond that a team built around Hill, Blair, and Splitter might be solid - possibly playoff worthy, but they won't be just some cap room away from a championship.

    The rebuild is coming, it happens to everyone eventually. We're very lucky as fans that we've gone roughly 20 years without a real one. If, during that time, the biggest of our concerns is RJ eating up some cap room - then we'll have it pretty good.
    But why have that concern if you don't need to. This team has been pretty good at rebuilding on the fly. No, we wouldn't be championship contenders in 2012-2014, but why create one more hurdle to overcome to get there? I just don't think 2011 Richard Jefferson is worth it.

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    But was there any evidence whatsoever that he might fit one day in the future? $8m/year is nothing to sneeze at. It'd be one thing if there was a point late in the year where it clicked for him. But he was worse in the playoffs than he was in the regular season.

    I guess my point is that I'm not willing to compromise the three years after 2011 just for a (very slightly) better shot at winning it all in 2011 (still a long shot even with RJ). Not that RJ would be a complete albatross, but he'd just be eating cap room and it would be a chore to move him.
    Well im certainly not going to argue with you, as of right now I still dont know how I feel about him possibly resigning with us, even on the cheap.

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    John Hollinger: I suspect that there's something pre-arranged here fro the Spurs to re-sign him for slightly more money over a much longer time period, which limits their 2011 luxury tax exposure. If there isn't then he's a fool for opting out.

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    You guys aren't going to like this, but I heard $45 million over 5 years, starting at $7 million. This saves the Spurs about $20 million in salary / luxury tax this year including what they get back for being under the tax. That's a ton of cabbage. I hope to God this info is wrong, but based on the crazy numbers that scrubs like Gooden and Darko are getting, this might actually be accurate.

    2010 $7M
    2011 $8M
    2012 $9M
    2013 $10M
    2014 $11M

    5 years / $45 million

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    You guys aren't going to like this, but I heard $45 million over 5 years, starting at $7 million. This saves the Spurs about $20 million in salary / luxury tax this year including what they get back for being under the tax. That's a ton of cabbage. I hope to God this info is wrong, but based on the crazy numbers that scrubs like Gooden and Darko are getting, this might actually be accurate.

    2010 $7M
    2011 $8M
    2012 $9M
    2013 $10M
    2014 $11M

    5 years / $45 million

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    Richard Jefferson doesn’t have a deal with the San Antonio Spurs and would prefer to return to the New York area to play for the Knicks or Nets, league sources told Y! Sports.

    Jefferson is seeking a multiyear contract that averages in the range of $8 million-$10 million, sources said. He opted out of the $15 million final season of his contract with the Spurs on Tuesday.

    Jefferson has built a good relationship with Spurs coach Gregg Popovich, but doesn’t think the team’s system best fits his skills.

    The Spurs could still try to sign Jefferson to a contract that lowers their luxury-tax hit, depending on what other options they find in free agency.

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    You guys aren't going to like this, but I heard $45 million over 5 years, starting at $7 million. This saves the Spurs about $20 million in salary / luxury tax this year including what they get back for being under the tax. That's a ton of cabbage. I hope to God this info is wrong, but based on the crazy numbers that scrubs like Gooden and Darko are getting, this might actually be accurate.

    2010 $7M
    2011 $8M
    2012 $9M
    2013 $10M
    2014 $11M

    5 years / $45 million
    I don't think this can happen; I thought FAs could only get 10.5% raises at the most (based on only the first year; they don't compound), so the most the salary could rise each year would be $735K given a first-year salary of $7M. And that's only when they re-sign with their current team; other FAs can only get 8% raises.

    So let's tweak it to:
    2010: $7M
    2011: $7.7M
    2012: $8.4M
    2013: $9.1M
    2014: $9.8M

    That's still $42M, but this contract wouldn't bother me much if the last year was fully non-guaranteed, allowing the Spurs to trade him easily in that last year; it would essentially be a 4 year/$32.2M deal, which isn't great, but isn't that bad.

    The best thing would be if we can sign-and-trade him to a team with cap room for a big trade exception.

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    According to Woj, RJ wants to go back to the NY metro area and play for the Nets or the Knicks...

    Is a sign and trade possible?

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    lol sources

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    According to Woj, RJ wants to go back to the NY metro area and play for the Nets or the Knicks...

    Is a sign and trade possible?
    I sure hope so.

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    richard jefferson doesn’t have a deal with the san antonio spurs and would prefer to return to the new york area to play for the knicks or nets, league sources told y! Sports.

    Jefferson is seeking a multiyear contract that averages in the range of $8 million-$10 million, sources said. He opted out of the $15 million final season of his contract with the spurs on tuesday.

    Jefferson has built a good relationship with spurs coach gregg popovich, but doesn’t think the team’s system best fits his skills.

    The spurs could still try to sign jefferson to a contract that lowers their luxury-tax hit, depending on what other options they find in free agency.
    s&t^

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    Please be a report of a sign and trade. Also if the nets being the front runners for lebron reports are true, it makes it even less likely for rj to the nets.

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    Richard Jefferson doesn’t have a deal with the San Antonio Spurs and would prefer to return to the New York area to play for the Knicks or Nets, league sources told Y! Sports.

    Jefferson is seeking a multiyear contract that averages in the range of $8 million-$10 million, sources said. He opted out of the $15 million final season of his contract with the Spurs on Tuesday.

    Jefferson has built a good relationship with Spurs coach Gregg Popovich, but doesn’t think the team’s system best fits his skills.

    The Spurs could still try to sign Jefferson to a contract that lowers their luxury-tax hit, depending on what other options they find in free agency.
    Please let this be true. I want a trade exception and bench player.

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    According to Woj, RJ wants to go back to the NY metro area and play for the Nets or the Knicks...

    Is a sign and trade possible?
    RJ and Dice for Curry and Gallinari?

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    He must be using Texas 2 Step's source.

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