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all these es love zosa, hit them with the Cobra..
I see what you are saying and where you're going, but in regards to military base, wasn't Hasaan an example of that? i live right next to where it all happened, so that was a recent example. my point thought was more about the culture, how there is this vicious cycle of growing government, more crazy and shocking episodes, government cracks down harder etc...Strange days...
I'm not talking about buying a gun, I'm talking about illegally possessing a gun..my belief is that there should be stricter action on the circulation of semis/autos in the country..where I grew up, I could get a gun when I was in middle school, which was my point..
The guns that are allowed into the country should only be accessible to a specific portion of the population, based on designated criteria..
Coke and weed are at a much higher demand with the average person than a gun, tbh..still, even with the higher demand and more dispersed usage of drugs, it's still more difficult to smuggle drugs today than it was in previous eras IMO..
I don't disagree with your deterrent argument..
Is it easier to prevent these types of incidents from human beings that may not even be aware of their own mental problems, or would it make more sense to decrease the odds by harshening gun laws?..
It may happen regardless, but it seems less likely that a man could kill 20+ people if it was more difficult to gain access to a gun..there shouldn't even be an argument..
Also, the 1=20 argument is one of the worst arguments in ST history, tbh..
No, Hassan was in the Army. He attacked people at a point where they were not armed, in the SRPC, basically a medical facility. The fact he was shot by military police and not someone else is testament to that fact. Soldiers are rarely armed unless they are deployed, standing guard or they are MPs. He picked the most docile place to shoot, and he's still alive.
Don't try to tie everything into so grand unification theory of crime. It's a single event. Others will happen, but it's not because of the government.
Happy Happy holidays.. Jesus H Christ I was doing Christmas shopping for my sister’s kids when I heard about this on the radio. How are these sick twisted people walking the streets? You have a problem with someone in your family take it up with them but 20 children.. It Is getting to the point where you are scared to even leave your home. All this violence that is occurring within the US, we are killing each-other in once senseless act of violence after another. I am all for strict gun control or at least steps in the direction of much stiffer sanctions.. Something has to change..
When z0sa is outclassing you in a debate, you know it's just not your night.
Do you know the NFA laws pertaining to automatic rifles? Do you know the shooter in this case used two handguns and that his .223 was in his car? Please stop using semis and autos in the same sentence as if they are two categories available at your local gun store. They aren't.
Do you know existing import laws?The guns that are allowed into the country should only be accessible to a specific portion of the population, based on designated criteria..
So then if an illegal substance cannot be controlled because of demand, what makes you think guns can?Coke and weed are at a much higher demand with the average person than a gun, tbh..
Here's your reasoning:
1. Drugs, though illegal, cannot be controlled because they are in high demand
2. Guns need to be controlled so we should make them illegal.
It's the only answer. Everything else propagates the fallacy that laws deter criminals.I don't disagree with your deterrent argument..
Great, another scared less clueless one. Oh someone shot someone and it made the news, I am now in more danger. Hurry, enact laws.. the Bill of Rights.
Free access to guns should have been stopped a long ing time ago. This isn't 1776, where the only firearms people have access to are flintlock muskets that take a minute to load each bullet.
is ridiculous.
More guns does not decrease gun crimes.
Yeah everyone is clueless unless they agree with you.. Do you have kids? You would not be popping off at the mouth about gun rights had your 5 year old been killed today.. Would you be selling that to your wife tonight in the midst of your grief?
in idiot..
And i never said to outlaw them asshole..
Sure enough, Mike Huckabee comes out and said this happened because we 'removed god from schools'
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Damn you less liberals are some domesticated pieces of work. 1776 is why you're free to do the things you want, such as watching while large black men plow your wife with s longer than the barrel of this dude's rifle. You'd just as soon turn in your freedom and become a slave because like everyone else in this country, we've gone soft. How quickly people forget, the founding fathers gave us the 2nd amendment because they had incredible foresight and wanted to avoid the tyranny they shed BLOOD to defeat. The only sacrifice you have to make on a daily basis is sacrificing sleep for more time for tv or vice versa..you've never studied history and don't know what the you are talking about. You're only as free as you demand to be and people like you don't deserve to live free. You don't have the balls for it. PS - hitler was also for gun control, why don't you go off my 2nd amendment.
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i almost spit my beer out on dis one. det whigga is going ballz out.
Knee jerk reactions like yours, thinking you're less safe because some 20 year old kid shot up a kindergarten class in Connecticut, that pretty special. Then you say something needs to be done about guns.
I highly doubt the parents are discussing guns at all. Makes me wonder why you felt endangered suddenly especially with all that MMA .
I don't give a about decreasing gun crimes. I care about protecting myself. I'm not running for office.
The "incredible foresight" to allow 20 children to be murdered by one crazy . Seems legit.
But gotdamn, there's skin reasearch to be done scro. Why are you wasting your time arguing about guns?
bringing up irrelevant stuff is always a good way to show that you're grasping at straws and are losing the argument. tell me again how our violent crime rate is higher than all of europe because it isn't. if we let idiots like you run the country we might make the League of Shame
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I noticed the chirping of crickets when I inquired about existing gun laws. Oh everyone wants tougher ones, but they have no idea what the existing ones are. Too ing lazy to learn, but motivated to speak.
we gotta take da guns away becuase the big batman meanie who had ties to a top military psychologist shot some people and now this happens right as the UN is working on their gun treaty
they also like to blindly proclaim that we need to ban fully autos not realizing that the guy didn't use a fully auto and those aren't available without special permits. these are the same people spewing bull all over this forum and every news outlet crying about how fully auto's shouldn't be available and you don't need them to hunt deer blah blah as if the 2nd amendment was EVER about hunting. crofl @ the thought that dumb s who don't know the difference between a semi and an auto thinking they have any business making such important decisions for the country and their neighbors rights.
Reminds me of the Obama interviews where the person was saying that Paul Ryan and Obama were a great duo, and that they did a great job. Most of these people are too mentally apathetic to ever learn about what ails them, and they will get over it in about 24 hours anyhow and be running their sausage socks about something else.
That's why majority rule is dangerous. The majority is often ignorant and they move like a group of baitfish, flinching at every sign of danger real or perceived. They want to eliminate every right if they feel the least bit threatened as long as gas prices don't go up.
I'm not on DMC's side in this argument but he's mentioned countless times on this site he has kids.
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