Are you getting into SJ secrete stash...No way do the Spurs keep him after this season I love his heart and his toughness but he has nothing left in his gas tank. People are going to get upset in playoff when he doesn't do anything but they shouldn't he just doesn't have the hops anymore. The only good thing is he will retire after this season a Spurs which is cool.
The Spurs have the perfect system for Jack. Even for an old Jack.
All he has to do is hit his open 3s and defend. You gunna tell me Jack is goin to start missin 3s in the playoffs? no. Dude will be hitting big shots until hes in the ground, just like Horry.
people who use horry to defend jax forget how terrible he was in the 08 playoffs. horry already looked done in the regular season and that was confirmed in the playoffs when he proceeded to brick everything.
I love JAX but all he's done this year is miss open 3's.. if that carries over into the playoffs he'll be completely useless.
It is a lottery team without Duncan. You will see some lean years after Duncan retires.
Jackson is over the hill. People are still living in the past with this guy. Jackson is going to lose a couple of playoff games for the spurs this year by missing important clutch shots.
No need for this trade, come next year Jefferson will be a free agent and we can sign him then.
He is better than Splitter both offensively and defensively. Splitter can't jump 6 inches off the ground.
Relying on Splitter lol
Relying on Jackson lol
Relying on Manu lol
These three are the reason why the Spurs won't win a le. Guys the team is counting on who won't do enough to help Leonard, Duncan and Parker. The rest of the team is a bunch of scrubs, backup quality players, non factors.
I somewhat agree with this, And it's why we NEED to acquire someone like Jefferson if we want to make the finals. Right now Tiago seems like the "golden child", but the matter of the fact is he CAN'T create shots for himself. He needs someone to set him up, AJ on the other end doesn't. In the playoffs once teams want to start doubling Tony, the trio of Duncan/Jefferson/Leonard should be able to make the defense think twice.
If the spurs won't win a le, isn't by the lack of someone like al jeff. If you were talking about Pierce I'd take you seriously. But Al Jefferson? Watch Pierce in the third quarter against the Lakers today. THAT'S a championship player, not some Jazz fan-hated average nig.
Al Jefferson is going to want a 100 million $$$$$ for his new contract that is why his team is trying to trade him.
We should get Al Jefferson, We are sorely in need of a big, strong interior player that can score reliably in the post and battle for rebounds. Duncan is getting old, Splitter is still too soft, and Blair is too short. I'd be happy to take Al Jefferson.
I'd easily take Pierce instead of Jefferson. But unlike Utah, Boston would never trade their stud (Who's been with them since Day One) for expirings/Tiago Splitter. I said if the Spurs want a chance to crack the finals, They'll need someone like Al Jefferson. Someone who can create and make their shots on a regular basis. Obviously I'd take a ton of guys over Jefferson if Spurs had the chance, but they don't.
An article from the 6th of February has the spurs offering S-jax, Blair and CoJo for Al Jefferson. That would be an absolute heist.
Al Jefferson is one of the worst defenders in the nba and that's why many/most Jazz fans would just love to trade him. Many Jazz fans talk about him like we talk about Bonner.
Would never happen. Everything is just speculation at this point no matter what any report says. And the Jazz would never make that trade in a million years.
If he's so bad then we should be able to get him for next to nothing right? No.. he's averaging 17 and 10 for a reason. Yes, he has his weaknesses, like any other player, but if you have the opportunity to get a player without giving up a major piece of your team, you usually go after him. It'd be dumb not to tbh.
if we can get him without giving up Tiago then OK. I know Jefferson's defense is pretty pathetic, but at least he's a pretty good offensive player and a good rebounder. Also with Tim on the floor I bet he wouldn't suck so much on defense. In the playoffs I rather have him out there than our role players which are choke material come playoff time.
If we aren't giving up Tiago its worth looking into... of course our small forward position is pretty damn thin
In this scenario do we start Al or Tiago though... and which do we resign during the offseason? Pressing questions tbh
We probably start Al. Tiago is a great of the bench player, specially with Manu on the floor... On the end of the year we all know Al will want a huge deal that we most likely won't be able to get him, but we will be able to sign Tiago. If we want to win a championship this year then trading Jax, Blair, Neal, Mills, De Colo or Joseph is not a big deal. Jax's contract is also finished after this year and he'll also probably get a better offer from another team. On the end of the day it's a trade with players that will probably not be on this teams anymore.
With an off-season and training camp, I agree with you. In the middle of the season, no. Practice time is severely limited during the season.
Hmm you actually proved my point. He is a very bad defensive player. Players who average 17 and 10 will get paid regardless. The question is if the Spurs should pay big money to a player like this or not. Of course if we don't have to give up anything then it's a good idea but also unrealistic.
Last edited by DrSteffo; 02-08-2013 at 07:45 AM.
yeah, tiago does have great rapport with manu. im just concerned defense will take a bit hit. with tim being the elite help defender, tiago's timely rotation and sturdiness down low have been key. Tiago is also the best big pick and roll defender we have. but the positives Al will bring would be worth it i guess. probably a better rebounder than tiago too. im for the trade if tiago stays.
in this scenario boris is going to see a lot of time at small forward. he's going to have to start hitting his open 3's
Everyone is complaining that Al Jeff is so bad, but if he's replacing Diaw how good does he really have to be on D? It's not like Diaw is all defensive player. If he takes 8 of Bonners minutes, 8 of Blairs and 8 of Diaws, he's playing 24 min/game and we've hardly lost out on any defence at all.
Al Jefferson of the bench would destroy backup big men. As long as we keep Splitter I'm happy with this move.
Next season he can take 5-6 of Timmys regular season minutes, dropping Timmy to a relaxing 25min/game throughout the regular season to keep him fresh.
Furthermore, if we solely listened to opposition fans criticism, we'd never have signed Diaw after the Bobcats waived him
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