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    It's almost like the midseason additions of Diaw/Jackson/Mills. All were signed a lot earlier than the summer. Now they already had a head start. Baynes for instance will likely see summer league time.
    Yeah, he's definitely going to get all the opportunities next summer that Ajinca and Richards squandered last summer. Hopefully he'll show us something. Hopefully Blair doesn't continue to spectacularly the bed in the minutes he's given between now and the end of the season.

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    Yeah, he's definitely going to get all the opportunities next summer that Ajinca and Richards squandered last summer. Hopefully he'll show us something. Hopefully Blair doesn't continue to spectacularly the bed in the minutes he's given between now and the end of the season.
    He's already shown stuff, but knowing the system is big to success. They likely wouldn't pay a buy out if they didn't think he had a solid chance. I'm confident there.

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    It's almost like the midseason additions of Diaw/Jackson/Mills. All were signed a lot earlier than the summer. Now they already had a head start. Baynes for instance will likely see summer league time.
    Pasta Batman...the grey voice of reason.
    This is supposed to support the argument that Baynes should be learning the system in Austin for the rest of this season? Diaw, Jackson and Mills all joined us mid-season last year, and gave us valuable minutes in the playoffs...

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    This is supposed to support the argument that Baynes should be learning the system in Austin for the rest of this season? Diaw, Jackson and Mills all joined us mid-season last year, and gave us valuable minutes in the playoffs...
    All were NBA vets.

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    It's because he's white...

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    I didn't think that needed to be pointed out. Guess I was wrong.

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    Man, Baynes got shut down mainly by James Mays, who (with some doubling help) did a great job denying Baynes the ball, stealing the ball if he got it and boxing him out on the boards. Halfcourt ball movement by the Toros was pretty bad for the most part, and Baynes and the coach didn't do much to free the former up after the initial entry pass was denied. It looks like he strained a shoulder in the second quarter when he got the ball stripped in the post, but apparently it was just a niggle. It might have been bothering him in the second half though, as he was missing wide open jumpers pretty badly.

    On D, Baynes was covering Mays, which was a little disappointing as I wanted to see him at least try to guard Miami's Varnado, who went nuts. Mays beat Aron off the dribble a couple of times, but he has range so one can't back off him completely. Baynes' help rotations were OK, though he was meeting cutters and penetrators a little too deep in the paint. They had a bunch of guys who could and did put up floaters over Baynes.

    No need to be alarmed by the numbers. It was one of those games where they wanted to see what Baynes could do offensively in the post, and the Skyforce gameplanned specifically against that and had the personnel to pull it off. Barring some kind of great development, Baynes isn't going to be much of a back to the basket threat on offense in the NBA anyway. His being outpositioned by a smaller player was the biggest concern.

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    Man, Baynes got shut down mainly by James Mays, who (with some doubling help) did a great job denying Baynes the ball, stealing the ball if he got it and boxing him out on the boards. Halfcourt ball movement by the Toros was pretty bad for the most part, and Baynes and the coach didn't do much to free the former up after the initial entry pass was denied. It looks like he strained a shoulder in the second quarter when he got the ball stripped in the post, but apparently it was just a niggle. It might have been bothering him in the second half though, as he was missing wide open jumpers pretty badly.

    On D, Baynes was covering Mays, which was a little disappointing as I wanted to see him at least try to guard Miami's Varnado, who went nuts. Mays beat Aron off the dribble a couple of times, but he has range so one can't back off him completely. Baynes' help rotations were OK, though he was meeting cutters and penetrators a little too deep in the paint. They had a bunch of guys who could and did put up floaters over Baynes.

    No need to be alarmed by the numbers. It was one of those games where they wanted to see what Baynes could do offensively in the post, and the Skyforce gameplanned specifically against that and had the personnel to pull it off. Barring some kind of great development, Baynes isn't going to be much of a back to the basket threat on offense in the NBA anyway. His being outpositioned by a smaller player was the biggest concern.
    Thanks for the report! Doesn't sound like he'll be any help this season.

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    He could conceivably help, but games like this put things in perspective.

    One more thing: Baynes got yanked after committing a flagrant and didn't play the last few minutes of the game after things got chippy. Looks like he has trouble when he's frustrated.

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    He could conceivably help, but games like this put things in perspective.

    One more thing: Baynes got yanked after committing a flagrant and didn't play the last few minutes of the game after things got chippy. Looks like he has trouble when he's frustrated.
    You've got to love players that play with some fire so with his size and aggression, once he gets acclimated, he should be able to help. I just don't think it'll be this year.

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    He's gonna kill someone if they dont call him up soon. His game could complement Boris so well...

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    This video is just another example of basketball skills Blair and Bonner lack and are reasons why Baynes should be getting minutes over these two clowns.

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    Yeah, he almost matched Daniel Orton's numbers last night.

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    This video pisses me off. He could be doing that with the second unit. Im not asking him to start, just be a spark off the bench with Manu. If he was gettin fed like Manu do Blair, omfg he would be a monster. Im sick of this mann.

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    Baynes had some monster dunks last night, good numbers. He needs to be coached up.

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    This video pisses me off. He could be doing that with the second unit. Im not asking him to start, just be a spark off the bench with Manu. If he was gettin fed like Manu do Blair, omfg he would be a monster. Im sick of this mann.
    But he had a bad D-League game after that, so obviously he's not ready to even match the production of Blair/Bonner in 5-10 minutes a night with the Spurs.

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    This video pisses me off. He could be doing that with the second unit. Im not asking him to start, just be a spark off the bench with Manu. If he was gettin fed like Manu do Blair, omfg he would be a monster. Im sick of this mann.
    Wouldn't be fair to the team

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    This is supposed to support the argument that Baynes should be learning the system in Austin for the rest of this season? Diaw, Jackson and Mills all joined us mid-season last year, and gave us valuable minutes in the playoffs...
    All were NBA vets.

    edit: duped CD's post to the letter.

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    This video pisses me off. He could be doing that with the second unit. Im not asking him to start, just be a spark off the bench with Manu. If he was gettin fed like Manu do Blair, omfg he would be a monster. Im sick of this mann.
    Find another team that rushes their players into the lineup to follow.

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    He has no experience, and he needs experience in order to be able to play, which can only be gotten with playing time, but he can't get any, because he has no experience (aside from 4 years of college and 3 years of pro and international basketball). Somehow sitting on the bench for years makes a player good; just look at Splitter. In the meantime the Spurs should be playing guys at center who have no height, no foot speed, no leaping ability, and can't defend because they're familiar with the system. If the Spurs could just bring in a rookie with only international experience and play him, they couldn't rely on him to contribute, well other than the current backup point guard, but pay no attention to that, because it's different with a pseudo point guard than it is with a 7 foot shot blocker.

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    He has no experience, and he needs experience in order to be able to play, which can only be gotten with playing time, but he can't get any, because he has no experience (aside from 4 years of college and 3 years of pro and international basketball). Somehow sitting on the bench for years makes a player good; just look at Splitter. In the meantime the Spurs should be playing guys at center who have no height, no foot speed, no leaping ability, and can't defend because they're familiar with the system. If the Spurs could just bring in a rookie with only international experience and play him, they couldn't rely on him to contribute, well other than the current backup point guard, but pay no attention to that, because it's different with a pseudo point guard than it is with a 7 foot shot blocker.
    Nando went through training camp, so obviously he's worthy of playing time where Baynes is not. Fool!

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    I don't get what the argument here is. NOBODY has claimed baynes to be an all star or even a starter for that matter. but 5-10 minutes of time, he do what ever blair does but better, because his defense will be better. the only thing bonner has on him is a 3 point shot. but blair has nothing. even baynes can hit a 10-15 foot jumper more consistant than blair. that is the real argument here. and it's not like blair is making tons of money and has to start.

    but his size, length, strength, and athleticism could really payoff at some point. and could be needed. baynes on collison seems better than blair on collison.

    so once again all those firing back. NOBODY has said baynes should start or be elected into the hall of fame. but he does make more sense than blair who is gone anyways this summer.

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    Nando went through training camp, so obviously he's worthy of playing time where Baynes is not. Fool!
    it is frustrating. especially considering baynes played for australia who runs a similar system to the spurs. and has been with the team for 2 months now. this whole system excuse is getting a little pathetic.

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    I don't even think anyone is arguing against trying Baynes out, but people really are saying the Spurs' championship hopes ride heavily on his inclusion on the active roster.

    It's a little pathetic.

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