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    Half of this board thinks that Anthony Davis is about to hit free agency (not to mention that Marc Gasol is a viable option)...
    If Mar Gasol decides to test free agency I don't see why he wouldn't consider the Spurs. The likelihood of course is that he straight up re-signs with the Grizz though.

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    Jesus people, his agent is paid money to get the best deal possible. I doubt Kawhi has some huge ego and is gonna hold the Spurs hostage. In fact, none of you can produce a single quote saying Kawhi is unhappy with the organization. I would bet the house he loves it here and that Pop wont be staying long without him. He wont leave, Spurs arent the rockets, this will get taken care of properly. Yall just cling on to the slightest bit of news and act like schoolgirls and dramatize it because this team doesnt produce enough gossip for you.
    You always come correct player.

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    If Mar Gasol decides to test free agency I don't see why he wouldn't consider the Spurs. The likelihood of course is that he straight up re-signs with the Grizz though.
    Exactly, but there are some out there who mark it as a given that both will be UFAs and genuinely test the market. Marc is obviously much more likely in the next half decade.

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    Marc Gasol, from everything I've read, loves Memphis and will likely re-sign there.

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    Marc Gasol, from everything I've read, loves Memphis and will likely re-sign there.
    This has really only come from Bill Simmons after he said he thought there was no way Gasol was leaving. He might be right, but the team isn't so good that it's a lock. Compare that to Aldridge who I thought was a lock to leave before Lillard got drafted, now I don't see any way he decides to leave.

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    delaying a Leonard signing until next offseason gives us additional room to make moves if Duncan/Manu retire... worst comes to worst we can match anything he's offered then. so it makes no sense to give him a max extension now. the only way he gets an extension now is if its a team friendly deal. it doesn't make sense for kawhi to take less on his first contract, so i'd just expect a max contract next offseason

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    It's the time to show him the money when he becomes consistent on both ends of the floor. as of this moment, he's only shown glimpses of his overall potential. purs would only be foolish to offer him the max until he proves himself.
    Agreed 100%

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    Intelligently designed.

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    Everyone believed that Houston would match any offer for Parsons. It just takes one team, the Lakers come to mind, that's willing to tie up their cap space for 72 hours.
    Parsons is EASILY one of the most over rated players in the NBA. For his three year career, his PER is 15.0, DEAD ON the NBA average. He is an average player who plays no defense at all. Being a huge proponent of advanced stats, I'm sure there was no way Morey was matching Cuban's throwdown offer. Kawhi's three year PER is 17.6, and it was 19.4 last year and he was NBA All defense. THE SPURS WILL ABSOLUTELY MATCH ANY OFFER FOR KAWHI LEONARD.

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    This has really only come from Bill Simmons after he said he thought there was no way Gasol was leaving. He might be right, but the team isn't so good that it's a lock. Compare that to Aldridge who I thought was a lock to leave before Lillard got drafted, now I don't see any way he decides to leave.
    Portland is SO THIN that one injury of any length could cost them the playoffs in the WC. What then? That would kind of make last year an aberration.
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    Portland is SO THIN that one injury of any length could cost them the playoffs in the WC. What then? That would kind of make last year an aberration.
    You might be right, but I just feel Lillard has so much potential that Aldridge will be hesitant to leave him. I don't see them as legit contenders as they are currently built so maybe Aldridge will at least talk to other teams, but at the end of the day I expect he'll take the 5 year max.

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    delaying a Leonard signing until next offseason gives us additional room to make moves if Duncan/Manu retire... worst comes to worst we can match anything he's offered then. so it makes no sense to give him a max extension now. the only way he gets an extension now is if its a team friendly deal. it doesn't make sense for kawhi to take less on his first contract, so i'd just expect a max contract next offseason
    Sounds right. Unless Kawhi's agent can agree on a team friendly deal then there's no need to sign until he's a FA. Let other teams bid for him then.

    By that time, you won't have Manu and Tim's contracts to worry about.

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    You might be right, but I just feel Lillard has so much potential that Aldridge will be hesitant to leave him. I don't see them as legit contenders as they are currently built so maybe Aldridge will at least talk to other teams, but at the end of the day I expect he'll take the 5 year max.
    I don't know if Lillard has more potential than Leonard, who's a year younger and already has a fMVP. I think the money would be the biggest draw to stay, that and maybe the stigma against going to a ready-made contender. If Aldridge entertains offers, which I think he will if Portland doesn't improve this season, I don't see how the Spurs aren't at the front of the line: proven championship-level supporting cast, close to home, and system where he can get his shots without breaking the offense, Pop.

    There are a couple of things to watch. One is that Aldridge may follow in James' footsteps in signing a short deal if the cap doesn't have a mini jump next summer. He seems sensitive to the fact that he only has one more big-money deal left, so he may not want to use it with the smaller cap. If a team like the Spurs can show him a plan for reupping him in 2016 or 2017 with the new space, maybe he takes their one-year contract over Portland's one-year.

    Along those lines, the Blazers are also looking to use 2015 cap space, which they should have pretty easily. That means they may be able to bring in another strong free agent to keep Aldridge from straying. But that also means that their roster will be in limbo for a couple of weeks. The Spurs' roster will be relatively intact, save for Tim and Manu potentially retiring, obviously. I don't think there's any way Portland's July 1, 2015 roster looks anywhere near as good as SA's.

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    Aldridge would be perfect. The closest player to TD in this generation.

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    Aldridge would be perfect. The closest player to TD in this generation.
    Wow - people really overrate LA on this board. Overrating him doesn't mean he isn't good, but he's not a defensive anchor and lives on jumpers which aren't always going to be sustainable. He's not Dirk level good offensively and he is not very good defensively either.

    He's obviously someone you can have success with with the right pieces around him; he's that talented.

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    Wow - people really overrate LA on this board. Overrating him doesn't mean he isn't good, but he's not a defensive anchor and lives on jumpers which aren't always going to be sustainable. He's not Dirk level good offensively and he is not very good defensively either.

    He's obviously someone you can have success with with the right pieces around him; he's that talented.
    Im with DPG.
    Just because everyone overpays for a house, 4K TV doesnt mean you have you (Spurs) should. Getting value like they did with diaw/Grren etc is critical. They have KL's rights. they can match any offer as a RFA. unless it pisses him off where he wont re-sign Spurs lose nothing by waiting. IF a PG injury happens would you be glad the spurs waited? No he is not a max player yet, but spurs can watch him develop this year and then make a decision.

    Note: I hate people acting as KL is being greedy here. He has leverage has never made Tim duncan type money ...why should he take less when scrubs are getting max deals?

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    lil DPG gonna DPG

    This is why it was so ignorant when people were hoping Kawhi would get MVP

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    Give the kid his money.

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    lil DPG gonna DPG

    This is why it was so ignorant when people were hoping Kawhi would get MVP
    Kawhi getting MVP means that the Spurs were likely to have won the Championship. That was the goal. Spurs needed him to raise his game in the finals and he did it. I would never trade that just so he can get paid less. That's ing idiotic.

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    Shoulda been Duncan, tbh

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    You cant just go by raw stats when KL usually doesn't get the greenlight in the offence. We saw what happens when he did in the finals.

    It's about what is impactfull in the game and KL has his share of that. Maybe we will see more going through him if the starting PG would stop ignoring him.

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    Wow - people really overrate LA on this board. Overrating him doesn't mean he isn't good, but he's not a defensive anchor and lives on jumpers which aren't always going to be sustainable. He's not Dirk level good offensively and he is not very good defensively either.

    He's obviously someone you can have success with with the right pieces around him; he's that talented.
    I dont think I overrated him. Obviously noone would really come close to Timmy. But who else is comparable? Love? Meh statpadding loser who is worse defensively. AD? Too early to tell. Amare? No. Idk who.

    And if you think of it, a LmA KL TP Green Tiago Patty core wouldnt be so bad post TD Manu. A contender tbh, lebron will decline and who knows?

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    Im with DPG.
    Just because everyone overpays for a house, 4K TV doesnt mean you have you (Spurs) should. Getting value like they did with diaw/Grren etc is critical. They have KL's rights. they can match any offer as a RFA. unless it pisses him off where he wont re-sign Spurs lose nothing by waiting. IF a PG injury happens would you be glad the spurs waited? No he is not a max player yet, but spurs can watch him develop this year and then make a decision.

    Note: I hate people acting as KL is being greedy here. He has leverage has never made Tim duncan type money ...why should he take less when scrubs are getting max deals?
    Your 2nd paragraph clashes with your first thought and DPG's stance in this matter imho

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    THE SPURS WILL ABSOLUTELY MATCH ANY OFFER FOR KAWHI LEONARD.
    No need to underline and shout the incredibly obvious.

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    Your 2nd paragraph clashes with your first thought and DPG's stance in this matter imho
    If understood DPG, he was saying what impetus do the spurs have to offer the max right now? He is restricted. As a small market team they need to spend wisely. they have him locked this year and next with QO. then can evaluate further and offer him the max next year or match a RFA offer.

    Only negative is maybe it pisses off KL or his agent. But if they are not understanding, is that the kind of star you want to build around? I dont blame him for wanting max but dont blame the Spurs for hesitating. Both are doing what they should in a negotiation. Also, I feel DPG is saying that just because Utah is dumb, spurs should not follow because of it and only pay KL max if THEY feel it is justified.

    But again the flip-side is from a player/agent perspective how can you NOT look at the Hayward/Bledsoe/Parsons contracts?!

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