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    If you don't even know about the gag order, you aren't worth wasting any more time.

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    If you don't even know about the gag order, you aren't worth wasting any more time.
    what gag order?

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    Looks to me like the local law enforcement got in way over its amateur head. Mirrors the competence of West, TX ammonium nitrate safety officers.

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    Looks to me like the local law enforcement got in way over its amateur head. Mirrors the competence of West, TX ammonium nitrate safety officers.
    weak

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    Fyi, the judge gagged the lawyers, the witnesses, and sealed the videotape.

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    All we know about the case is from Waco PD press releases. If the lawyers or witnesses speak to the press, they go to jail for contempt. Bit of a one way street, don't you think?

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    Latest McLennan DA screwup par for Waco biker case

    Even in a large-scale episode like the Waco biker shootout in May, one would think authorities ought to be able to count the number of dead. Regardless, it turned out the 10th victim listed in the Twin Peaks biker shootout indictments didn't exist and was just a case of the same sort of sloppy lawyering which led the DA to charge dozens of people with the same, trumped up offenses. (Four others were shot by police with rifles from a distance.) Reported the Houston Chronicle:

    Everyone has been charged with the same crime - which carries a penalty of 15 years to life in prison - even though police surveillance videos clearly show most of the bikers running from the violence and ballistics tests on guns and bullet fragments have not yet been completed.

    "It is a reflection of how sloppy this case has been handled from the beginning," Dallas lawyer Clint Broden said.

    "He was really able to bamboozle the grand jury into indicting people for crimes that he acknowledges they didn't commit," said Broden, who added that it was an example of the adage that a prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich if he chooses to do so.

    Amanda Peters, a former prosecutor who is now a professor at the South Texas College of Law in Houston, had little sympathy for Reyna.

    "This office has already come under a lot of criticism," Peters said. "And you would think that they wouldn't want to do anything to fuel more criticism."

    Peters said that from a legal standpoint, prosecutors can easily go back and amend the indictment, but that they have made yet another embarrassing public gaffe.

    "This is one more indication this case isn't being handled as cleanly as it could," she said. "Most defense attorneys and prosecutors (in Texas) are scratching their heads," she said. "People I talk to are like, yeah, that is a mess."

    The McLennan County District Attorney's Office has tried to do too much too quickly, she said.

    "In every one of these mass-arrest situations, it always ends up a disaster," she said. "There are lawsuits filed; settlements; somebody gets kicked out of office or fired - not to mention the mockery it makes of the justice system."

    Abel Reyna and the rest of the McLennan County justice system are in way over their heads and poised embarrass the entire state if they don't get a clue and begin to limit criminal prosecutions to people who actually engaged in criminal behavior.

    http://gritsforbreakfast.blogspot.com/2015/12/latest-mclennan-da-screwup-par-for-waco.html

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    civil rights lawsuits: bikers arrested without evidence of wrongdoing

    http://www.wacotrib.com/news/police/...4c76a7ec4.html

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    Dallas attorney Don tle represents 20 of the plaintiffs and said 13 of the 20 have not been indicted, including the five most recent plaintiffs.

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    The lawsuit alleges that authorities relied on “identical, fill-in-the-blank” arrest affidavits that did not allege specific facts against the plaintiffs “that would in any way establish probable cause” for their arrests.



    “The district attorney (Reyna) recently claimed that his decision not to indict some of those arrested is proof that he’s trying to ‘do the right thing,’ ” tle said Wednesday. “I know that for these individuals, and many others, his words ring hollow. Almost 18 months after their arrests, my clients are still waiting for their names to be cleared, hardly what you’d expect from someone interested in ‘doing the right thing.’ ”

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    civil rights lawsuits: bikers arrested without evidence of wrongdoing

    http://www.wacotrib.com/news/police/...4c76a7ec4.html

    yawn, happens to 100s of non-whites every day.

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    if I told you non-whites were arrested would you be more sympathetic?

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    boutons apparently finds it boring when the abuse of state power ruins the lives of white people

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    if I told you non-whites were arrested would you be more sympathetic?
    would you be so sympathetic if you knew that the Bandidos are huge criminal organization?

    search "bandidos arrested"

    do you really give a about the ing criminal gangs Bandidos and Cossacks?

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    prior to conviction, the presumption of innocence obtains. prior to arrest, you need particularized probable cause.

    doesn't matter who the target is.

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    prior to conviction, the presumption of innocence obtains. prior to arrest, you need particularized probable cause.

    doesn't matter who the target is.
    how naive, how theoretical.

    try the thread "warrior cops are out of control", esp today' "Nevada $2 drug test" joke

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    we still have an adversarial system of justice to force the state recognize our rights. it occasionally works.

    that's neither naive nor theoretical.

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    right to a speedy trial:

    Frustrated by a lack of movement in the Twin Peaks cases, a judge set trial dates Friday for three bikers, while McLennan County prosecutors dismissed 13 more cases involving those indicted in the May 2015 shootout.
    http://www.wacotrib.com/news/courts_...aab98c478.html

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    On Thursday, prosecutors dismissed 15 cases against bikers who had been summoned to court Friday, leaving a much smaller group at the hearing in Johnson’s court. Prosecutors also formally refused an unindicted case involving Donald Fowler on Thursday.

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    The dismissals this week bring the number of pending cases to 98, down from 155 bikers indicted

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    “The deal here is that we are now three years out on his thing,” Sutton said. “We have received no offer. As soon as we were told no to modify these bond conditions, we were told no, we can’t have a court date. Maybe we will get a court date sometime this year. So yeah, he is obviously frustrated. Imagine having your life put on hold for three years.”

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    "Imagine having your life put on hold for three years"

    Ah, the white man, free on bond, has it so bad

    85 people held for 4 years in Louisiana jails without a trial, sheriffs say

    http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2018/04/over_1300_louisiana_residents.html



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    yep. that sucks too.

    deprivation of rights isn't a contest. it's allowed to pay attention to many things at the same time.

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    yep. that sucks too.

    deprivation of rights isn't a contest. it's allowed to pay attention to many things at the same time.
    there's almost no good around. So much bad stuff happening, but none of it is accidental, natural, it's all oligarchy policy

    The oligarchy, buttressed by the natsec/militarized police state, if ing America hard and deep.

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