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to each their own, but damn if I'm not digging on this season
I dunno, I haven't really been likeing the show that much this season...last season was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better. It was addictive. This season is ehhhh....
to each their own, but damn if I'm not digging on this season
I love this season also... just not as much as the first. I am glad that they started with the front of the airplane on season 1 because they do seem to be a lot 'cooler' than the back part of the plane. I really like all of them from the original cast... this other cast I can't seem to get into. The best part for me tonight was the last 5 minutes when they find Jin, Sawyer and Michael. I'm glad they're going back to the original cast for the next episode.
I can't wait for Bernard and Rose to reunite. Aww.
I'm with you. I like this season, but it doesn't really have me on the edge of my seat like the first season.
Ana Lucia bothers the crap out of me, it'll be interesting to see if her previous occupation makes me like her more. They're going to have to work hard for that to happen.
Me either!I can't wait for Bernard and Rose to reunite. Aww.
I'm also wondering what the story is for the guy that was in the woods for 2 hours. He wasn't one of the other's, but there still seemed to be something 'off' there.
I love Ecko (or however you spell it). I can't wait until they do his back story. Right after the crash, wasn't he carrying a woman to the shore? Do you think he was with her, or he was just bringing her in?
Her previous occupation? What is it supposed to be?
We don't know yet. And if somebody does, please put it in white so the rest of us don't read it. Merci!
I think that Ana Lucia is going to turn out to be another U.S. Marshal that was watching Kate.
She was in the back guarding the back door perhaps.
highlight my post if you want to see my guess.
Thanks for hiding it TruthIs it just your guess, or is it based on something you read? Cause if it's based on only what we've seen I'd love to see your take!
I've tried watching it.....but I'm lost.
Highlight for a theory I found
I'll make this as brief as I can:
Meet Hans Oersted:
Hans O. discovered electromagnetism in 1820.
In 1999 the 'Oersted' satellite was launched with the purpose of charting Earth's magnetic field. The findings led scientists to believe that there might be a polar reversal imminent, the effects of which could be cataclysmic: if Earth were to lose its magnetosphere, it would be vulnerable to massive radiation from the space/sun. The satellite also revealed an anomaly in the magnetic field under South Africa; it is pointing the opposite direction from the rest of the Earth's field and has been growing for hundreds of years. Please Google this info. A similar idea was also used in the film 'The Core'.
Meet Hannes Alfvén:
His contribution to science - mainly in the field of electromagnetism - revolutionized how scientists view the universe, winning a Nobel Prize on the way. He spoke English, German, French, Russian, and some Spanish and Chinese; and studied oriental philosophy and religion. He spent time in the Fiji Islands. He was fascinated by the "green flash" - a phenomenon that sometimes occurs at sunset. By no coincidence (Green Lantern and Flash comic):
He also wrote fiction: The Great Computer: A Vision (1968) telling the story of computers taking over the world. Google "Hannes Alfvén".
Alfvén plus Hans O. equals Alvar Hanso.
The above outlines the reason for - and a means to control - the island...
Scientists, fearing the cataclysmic events of a polar reversal, prepared an environment for the survival of the human race. They either directly or indirectly engineered the kind of people who would make up a community fit for survival and propagation of a new world. In the main, this means characters without father/mother figures; and/or characters with skills for survival: a doctor, an engineer, a survivalist, a mercenary; and characters of sufficiently varied genetic background: african, caucasian, asian, etc. to ensure a healthy gene pool for generations.
Then on an island which already had a massive natural source of electromagnetism, they constructed an artificial magnetosphere, alluded to in Walt's/Hurley's comic:
to repel the deadly cosmic rays that Earth's magnetosphere used to repel. The hope was that the community could thrive, grow and, eventually, repopulate/recover the world.
The Dharma Initiative under Alvar Hanso (if both of these thing exist in the Lost reality - much of the Orientation film is red herrings for the 'survivors') used a technology based on remote viewing and electromagnetism to power this magnetosphere and to influence the lives of the future island candidates. As stated in another of my posts: every strange (and a lot of mundane) occurrences in Lost can be attributed to electromagnetism as wielded by the collective consciousness on the island (see "Enlightenment Theory"). When all the candidates were in place, i.e. on the plane, the collective consciousness knocked everyone out, brought it down, cryogenically preserved them, dismantled the plane (placing enough debris in the ocean to ensure an "everybody dead" verdict); years later, some plane debris was placed on the beach with the passengers and the scene was set to give the illusion that they had JUST crashed. Then the collective consciousness woke them up.
The joke/password about the snowmen is an allusion to being cryogenically frozen.
The collective consciousness is that group of scientists that became so totally absorbed into remote viewing and electromagnetism that they now operate on frequencies of electromagnetism (covering everything from light to sound) only. They can read minds as well as manipulate iron and other conductive material. Claire wondered why there was not one comb or hairbrush on the entire plane; the reason: the slight electrostatic charges that hairbrushing creates is interference for the collective consciousness.
Much of the Orientation film and what Desmond says is false and purely to ensure that our heroes press those bloody buttons every 108 minutes. The purpose is threefold: to provide a focus for the community - a reason to go on and something 'meaningful' that goes beyond rational decision-making; secondly, to protect the hatch/power-supply/scientists behind the concrete; and, thirdly, to download the information from the Oersted satellite as it orbits the Earth every 108 minutes (please Google this) to get the latest on the magnetic poles.
The collective consciousness messed with this bird's navigation (based on magnetism - birds have magne e in their beaks).
Sayid tells Jack that either the compass is wrong or North has moved. In fact, North has moved.
Walt seems to become a knife-throwing expert. He isn't. The metal knife was guided by the collective consciousness in an attempt to bring him closer to Locke, who is the island's most faithful servant.
The presence of this ship is an indication that this island has always been known as a source of great magnetic power (the word "magnet" comes from "Magnesia" the land where the first black rock with powers of attraction was found). The location of this ship is an indication of the island's volcanic past - pushing the island higher - the ship is now inland. (Lava cools to form basalt; at the point basalt solidifies it takes on the same magnetic field as the surrounding location, thus providing information of the magnetic field's past.)
BF Skinner's dubious theories form the basis for the methods used by collective consciousness to socially engineer this 'utopia'. They are the voices in the trees, they are the visions, they are the black fog (metal in a magnetic field), the monster (mechanical, but designed to embody each survivor's personal fear). They use every psychological trick in his books to manipulate the survivors into forming a stable long-lasting community ON the island; and their means to this end are extensive.
The two images above are an explicit example of how the influence of the Dharma's collective consciousness has pervaded in the survivors' lives: notice the octagonal ceiling in both shots; and the metal balls in the second scene.
The opening shot of most episodes - the eye - establishes that this epsiode's main character will percieve what the collective consciousness wishes to show them. In this episode, Boone has an epiphanous vision courtesy of the collective consciousness and is later murdered with a falling plane!
Locke can walk now. Locke has no feeling in his legs. Locke's ability to walk is based on the collective consciousness' will. It makes him obedient. This level of obediency may be required of all the survivors eventually. His legs move because the collective consciousness allows those tiny electronic impulses from his brain via the spine to get through to muscles in his legs.
To summarize: our heroes never actually crashed; they are the future of mankind - the survivors of a cataclysmic polar event of which they are unaware; they are on the island to survive, procreate and repopulate the Earth. They are unaware of this plan which is sustained by a sophisticated collective consciousness and a group of scientists using electromagnetic power, and psychological techniques of reward and punishment.
The original theory states that there are two sets of Others: those that are renegade and those that are adhering to the 'Dharma' project.
Ethan was one of the renegades. While he valued life, he was prepared to take it for what he may have considered was the greater good, that is, the children. The Australian psychic told Claire that she ALONE (heavy stress) should bring up the child; perhaps he foresaw what is actually happening now: the child raised by the CC - Ethan having failed. The renegade Others move silently, leave no tracks and don't use metal.
The adhering Others - the Others still on message - were on the boat. They interfere only when necessary and in order to keep the survivors on the island - that was the purpose of taking Walt. Michael, Sawyer and Jin returned and certainly Michael won't be going anywhere until he gets Walt back.
Ethan was like Morpheus, the boat people are like Agent Smith.
The most hopeful promise of procreation on the island is between Sayid and Shannon. One thing seemed to be in the way: Boone. Maybe the CC felt he wasn't sufficiently 'relieved' of his love for Shannon by his vision and considered him a threat - and so removed him. Alternatively, Shannon may be pregnant already with Boone's baby and, again, Boone - as part of a love triangle - would disrupt the child's upbringing.
As the song goes: "the children are the future" - and this is a battle all about the future!
There is more, but that's the gist.
That last episode showing the other survivors was bad ass....
I thought this past Wed's episode was damn good. Season 1 was awesome and the show is only getting better with Season 2. I recognized a pattern, whether it has any clues behind it, I dunno. Keep in mind this only holds true for not all, but most of the characters who we've seen their flashbacks: They've been wronged by their father.
Think about it- Jack's dad was a drunk and put him in a tough situation, Shannon's dad ed her over by taking her out of his will, Walt didn't know his real dad till his mom died, Locke's dad won't even talk to him even though he saved his life, Sun's dad was apart of the mafia who drug Jin into it and screwed him up, Sawyer had to kill his "dad" which ed him up for life...
Pretty weird...
Damn GIG, way to bring a 80 year old thread back to life.
Next Episode:
Wednesday, Jan.11,
Ha, another convert! Welcome
haha! Another one is now LOST... :P
Next week...woo!
Just a joke.
I like the LOST picture in GIG's sig.
It's brilliant marketing. It's a created website (probably by someone associated with the show) for publicity. There are a few of them out there like this. There's a website for the airline, too. I'll see if I can find it.
Oceanic air.
http://www.oceanic-air.com/
http://www.oceanic-air.com/seatingchart.htm - lots of hidden stuff around on the seats.
My guess is that somehow they're all connected. Did you notice Jack was the doctor who 'allowed' Shannon's dad to die?
They haven't touched on Jack's marriage - but they are all related in some way.
Sawyer encountered Jack's dad in a bar, also.
In all the back stories, you'll see another character. In Hurley's, Locke was wheeled by. And in Shannon's, when they were in the hospital, Jack walked by them, as examples.
Does anyone remember Walt watching TV and seeing Hurley on the screen?
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