Harvey

[boutons_deux]

Just cut the DoD budge by $100B and give it to Houston,

and/or cut/stop the $Bs in annual subsidies to BigCarbon and give that to Houston.

What bull to beg citizens to help Houston when the oligarchy, by rigging the economy and tax system, hordes $Ts.

[Pavlov]

Yes he is not perfect but he is much better then any of the candiates that ran for the president of the USA on both sides
do you think the republicans do anything right ever?

Less and less these days.

do you think that the former president did anything wrong ever?

Yes, but he never hawked a $40 baseball cap during a natural disaster.

[RandomGuy]

What will happen next (Katrina is a mild model, but this is bigger):

7.6 million people in the affected area. Even if only 5%, that is 350,000+ people need to be immediately relocated that will swamp the 10,000 beds here and there that are being set up in Austin, San Antonio, Dallas. Hundreds of thousands of people will need some place to go.


Houston has no power, and it will take a long time for that to change. Hazardous waste will be everywhere. Power company can't even get into places to see what needs to be fixed yet.

The waters will slowly go down, but the heat is projected to go up to normal for this time of year. 90+ degrees, on the coast with all the humidity keeping things from drying out.

The city will be hot, humid, and a LOT of structures are going to be wet, that will make mold instantly take root, and houses will be rotting almost immediately. I have seen first hand flood recovery, and in my tiny neighborhood, that took months. This is going to be 1000 times larger, and vastly more problematic, especially as the sanitation infrastructure (power/water/waste) is going to be out of operation.

Best thing that anyone can do is be ready for that stream of people needing to be relocated, IMO.

They are going to find a lot of dead people, some of which may never be found as they were quite possibly swept out to sea.

There will be no running water, no power, no food, mosquitoes, mold, poor sanitation, etc. People will get sick.

We have improved our response to such things since Katrina/Rita, but this has, by all accounts overwhelmed current efforts. Once the water goes down, we will know more, but it looks bad.

just in case it gets missed.

[Pavlov]

Contacted city of San Marcos government, they are monitoring. Going to push that button hard. Our city knows what this is like.

Monitoring what?

[RandomGuy]

Monitoring what?

The shelters are coordinated regionally. There is a list and shelters and they deployed systemically. San Marcos and Hays County are on that list and we are prepared

(edit)

As noted, I have very little doubt that those beds/places will be needed.

They will be inspecting places, and I would guess will probably make the determination that no few structures will be unsafe for human beings. What happens to the former occupants? They will have to go somewhere.

[DarrinS]

Women's march wants to let you know how to help non-whites

[Pavlov]

Oh, ok. Thought they might have already opened some. I know Delco is open up here and likely some others.

[boutons_deux]

SA Convention Center is huge, haven't heard whether it will used if events this weekend are cancelled


https://sanantonioconventioncenter.org/upcoming-events/

[Pavlov]

Women's march wants to let you know how to help non-whites

[Blake]

Just cut the DoD budge by $100B and give it to Houston,

and/or cut/stop the $Bs in annual subsidies to BigCarbon and give that to Houston.

What bull to beg citizens to help Houston when the oligarchy, by rigging the economy and tax system, hordes $Ts.

Or take the money that Mexico is willing to give for hurricane relief and use it for relief instead of a ing wall

[Pavlov]

We're going to pay for disaster relief with reimbursements/other.

[RandomGuy]

Women's march wants to let you know how to help non-whites

You didn't post the other article that they posted preceeding that.

A Catastrophe for Houston's Most Vulnerable People

Within cities, poor communities of color often live in segregated neighborhoods with higher flood risks. This is especially true in Houston. [maps and data provided supporting this statement]

https://www.theatlantic.com/news/arc...people/538155/

Reality:

This event will hurt the poorest people worst, and those people are overwhelmingly black and Hispanic in this case.

So, yes, let's help the non-whites Darrin. Sorry if you only wanted to help the white people.

[Pavlov]

But muh Cajun Navy!

[DarrinS]

So, yes, let's help the non-whites Darrin. Sorry if you only wanted to help the white people.

I didn't send my donation to white-only Red Cross.

[boutons_deux]

search "new orleans 10 years after katrina"

[Pavlov]

I didn't send my donation to white-only Red Cross.

Indignant virtue signaling.

[boutons_deux]

https://www.theatlantic.com/news/arc...people/538155/

Many of these same people were already living a catastrophe, bad pregnancies, damaged/dead babies, diseases, cancers, in the neighborhoods adjacent to poison-spewing petrochemical plants and 20+ Superfund sites.

Is what people mean by "environmental justice".

Same story for petrochemical industry along the Gulf and Mississippi river. dead or diseased Ms as "external costs" ignored by BigCarbon.

White male supremacy (blacks, browns, reds, yellows aren't Real Americans, aren't to be helped) and the "you're poor because you're morally bad, God doesn't love you" are fundamentally, totally toxic, inhumane.

[RandomGuy]

I didn't send my donation to white-only Red Cross.

http://www.thestranger.com/slog/2017...cross-is-blood

Take Hurricane Sandy. An investigation by ProPublica and NPR found that in the aftermath of Sandy, Red Cross was unable to provide even basic aid to those in need. Instead, they used 40 percent of available disaster relief trucks as backdrops for news conferences. From ProPublica:

According to interviews and do ents, the Red Cross lacked basic supplies like food, blankets and batteries to distribute to victims in the days just after the storms. Sometimes, even when supplies were plentiful, they went to waste. In one case, the Red Cross had to throw out tens of thousands of meals because it couldn’t find the people who needed them.

http://www.newser.com/story/247900/w...red-cross.html

Your laziness means that money will quite possibly be wasted.

A little research goes a long way. I will probably give a bit to the Cajun Navy, and hold off a bit until I can get a sense of how best to deploy my budget.

If I end up hosting a family in my house, I may just hand them that budget and wish them well, trusting them to use the money in the best way they can.

[RandomGuy]

Many of these same people were already living a catastrophe, bad pregnancies, damaged/dead babies, diseases, cancers, in the neighborhoods adjacent to poison-spewing petrochemical plants and 20+ Superfund sites.

Is what people mean by "environmental justice".

Same story for petrochemical industry along the Gulf and Mississippi river. dead or diseased Ms as "external costs" ignored by BigCarbon.

White male supremacy (blacks, browns, reds, yellows aren't Real Americans, aren't to be helped) and the "you're poor because you're morally bad, God doesn't love you" are fundamentally, totally toxic, inhumane.

Pretty much.

Personally, the problems already cropping up in gasoline distribution make a great case for pushing electric vehicles and renewables.

Moving energy around in a physical form means you have a distribution method for transportation needs that is vulnerable to such things.

Distributed power, interlinked at places, with renewables and electric vehicles would seem to be a bit more robust, since you can generate electricity just about anywhere with a solar panel.

[boutons_deux]

Red Cross? swallowed $500M in donations for Haiti earthquake and built 5 or 6 houses.

[DarrinS]

Being from that area, I can tell you there are hardly any poor white people there.

[DarrinS]

Red Cross? swallowed $500M in donations for Haiti earthquake and built 5 or 6 houses.

Sandra Bullock just donated 1M.

[ducks]

More fake lying news from the left trump had FEMA and other organizations rallied nearby ahead of the storm in a way Obama never would have thought of

[DarrinS]

By the way, when did Latino become Latinx? What's that about?

[RandomGuy]

Sandra Bullock just donated 1M.

Good for her.