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I'm trying to make it a reality by creating the image and imagining it
there was totally an image in my mind based on your description..
You mentioned it a couple times in a game thread back in LMA's first season where he killed the Spurs iirc. Just thought it was amusing so it stuck.
I'm trying to make it a reality by creating the image and imagining it
there was totally an image in my mind based on your description.
I didn't know you lived outside the US. Where?
Anyhow, don't bother. I live right here in SA, and I will be more than happy to render them the same service!
I remember your disdain for 50Mills. And I appreciate your selflessness. All for the good of the team!
Nah. Only Spurs player I really hated was Bonner. Thought he wasted a roster spot for years and years.I remember your disdain for 50Mills. And I appreciate your selflessness. All for the good of the team!
Never had a problem with Mills. I actually like the guy. Doesn't mean I have to like that contract though.
I don’t see Charlotte parting ways with Kemba unless that involves taking on Batum’s brutal contract.
in this case a pair of deals could be possible. first is kemba + marvin for murray, mills and gay second is batum for parker, jo lo and forbes both are possible for nba trade machine...
I've been Trade Machining deals that include both Kemba and Batum to every team in the league that could want to pay 29 year old 6-1* Kemba in summer 2019 a long term deal starting at a minimum of $20 million
And if Charlotte wants to save money and get talent, it's really hard to find a deal like that.
Best I could see is Philadelphia giving the expirings of Amir, Booker, next year of Bayless, and one of their good draft picks coming up, either the Lakers 2018 pick 1 or 6-30, or the lesser of the 2019 Lakers if not conveyed to Boston or the 2019 Kings pick.
Then, for just money, the Pacers could send Bogdanovic, Al Jefferson, and Darren Collison, and only count $7.5 million on year 19, and be clear for 20 & 21. But their pick would likely be between 20 & 25. And that's if Indiana wants to give it a go and thinks Kemba can be a good enough addition to contend. Maybe Sabonis would interest Charlotte as a young talent?
Other than that, it's difficult to see where they could dump the years 19,20, and 21 of the Batum deal. If they can handle less of a return ...
The Bulls could send Mirotic and Robin Lopez, plus their first for Kemba+Batum, but that only gets Charlotte off of years 20 and 21, and I don't think Chicago will dump their good pick in a good draft to try to win now with Kemba and washed up Batum.
Cleveland could do JR Smith, Iman Shumpert, Isaiah Thomas and the Brooklyn pick, that saves years 20 and 21 off the Batum deal with Shumpert, and most of 20 & 21 with JR who is only guaranteed 3.7 in year 20. Letting Isaiah walk and getting the Brooklyn pick, currently the 8th pick if the lotto went by percentages, maybe that's enough?
The Knicks can send Kanter and Courtney Lee, saving years 20 & 21 off Batum with Kanter (if he doesn't opt out), but still having Lee for 19 and 20. And if the Knicks received Kemba, they probably make the playoffs, worsening any pick they can send.
Denver could send Faried, Chandler, and Mudiay, saving years 20 & 21 off the Batum deal. But they'd make the playoffs, and have a worse pick to send. And I would think that Mudiay has even less value than Murray around the league.
I wouldn't think Phoenix or Sacramento would think they would contend with Walker and Batum and I doubt either would give up lotto firsts for the deal, though Phoenix will probably have Miami's pick and maybe Milwaukee.
If Kemba does get traded this year, I might expect it to not be attached to Batum.
If the Spurs were willing to be cold-blooded, as some others have already posted in this thread:
Parker, Murray, Gay and a 1st for Kemba & Marvin
Either Gay opts out saving Charlotte on years 19 and 20 of the Marvin deal, or Gay opts in and maybe gets enough numbers in 19 that he'd have trade value on his own and could be moved.
Then Charlotte would have a cheap point guard of the future (allegedly), a first, and saved 2 years of salary from Marvin Williams.
I think the Spurs could even offer wacky protections as incentive, i.e. 2018 only conveys if it's between 15-20, 2019 only conveys if between 10-20, 2020 only conveys if 5-14, then 2021 1-14, etc etc
it ain't much, but it could be compe ive
They'd still be screwed by Mills, and would enter summer 2018 at the cap already in salary commited without Green and without the cap holds for Anderson, Bertans or Forbes.
The Spurs are never trading Parker. Will you re s stop.
Last edited by Mr. Body; 01-20-2018 at 01:03 PM.
I mis-typed. I meant Hood!
Other teams like Murray. I always hear commentators about the future of this kid. And Jordan could see him as future star PG and we get a real chance at Kemba. I mean, I like Murrays defense now, especially on Curry or CP3 come playoffs. But as a PG he reminds me of DeColo, and it shivers me to think what Spurs could miss in return before it’s too late. Kawhi could play PFwd for Murray to work in the lineup, but Murray needs to hit those corner 3s. But Kemba is available now.
Yeah, the NBA trade deadline thread wouldn't be complete without the goonies of spurstalk throwing Tony Parker's name in trade scenarios while thinking this year is going to be different than all the rest.
Murray's ceiling is much higher than De Colo's ever was. What an embarrassing comparison. Even if he amounts to nothing, he's still better than De Colo ever was or will be. Have people forgotten that he's only in his second season?
I would actually thrown a lot in to get Kemba, but I highly doubt that would be enough.
I mean what else cen we offer than KA+Mills/Parker+Murray+1st for Kemba?
Add Gay and Marvin? Taking on Batum might work for me, but only if they take the albatross contracts of both Mills and Gasol, but it ain's happening.
Even better. But I’d take winning now than potential. Kawhi/LMA/Kemba is not bad at all. And with All Star guard set at that position, it’s more attractive for other big FA to come knocking.
LOL, comparing Murray to DeCulo...
The more I think about it, the more obvious it is that if Philly wants him, they'll have him. No one else can compete with them.
If they would take Mills to go along with Murray, I would have no problem with the Spurs offering the 2018 first and the 2020 first with like a top 10 protection.
2 firsts for a 1.5 year rental is a lot, but they'd probably have to pay at least a first next summer to get off of Patty's last 2 years anyway.
ing Groundhog Day in here every trade deadline. Parker will never be traded.
True. I Got You, Babe!ing Groundhog Day in here every trade deadline. Parker will never be traded.
Idk why they don't realize that lol it's silly to include him in any of these scenarios
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Rodney Hood is questionable tonight with "getting traded". Rudy Gobert is not on the injury report
that's a new one for me.
Awesome movie thoughing Groundhog Day in here every trade deadline. Parker will never be traded.
Hood is one of my pipe-dreams, TBH.
that's a new one for me.
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