I think you're looking for the wrong things when assessing a prospect. There's a lot of context.im sure its easy to shine when you have a limited role on a team filed with all stars and excellent defensive players while not being asked to do anything but hustle
My expectations for Bell were never high ( as in I didn't expect him to come in and be an All Star right away). My expectations for him as a ROLE PLAYER were high. And at the end of the 1st or early 2nd, that's what you want.
With Doncic, as a number 1 pick, his expectations are sky high. He's suppose to be a star. I don't think he will be, he will still be a contributor like a Belinelli, but not a star imo.
I agree on what you’re saying regarding his “weaknesses” but comparing him to the other available prospects imo other than Ayton his game is more ready/mature.
Who’s your top player on the board? And where do you have Doncic?
Again I’m not saying he’s a future HOF prospect but I do think he’s the most complete player
I'm just pointing out that I think you could plug most players that have a good motor/work ethic into GS and they would produce because of the talent around them. Bell is solid but definitely not the steal of the draft and i dont think anyone would be saying that if he was playing anywhere else but GS.. I agree about Doncic though, i see a similar career arc as Rubio, maybe slightly better. Super hyped talented euro guard who underwhelms compared to his expectations but still is a solid contributor/starter
Lol wrong
I think this draft is overrated up top. I see a lot of solid players 1-20ish, but no star potential. Imo
There will be a few 2nd rounders solid enough defensively to carve out a career in the league.
Yep. I was fine with rebuilding after the big 3 retired, but after the Spurs drafted Kawhi and then with all the hard work he did to turn himself into a Superstar, plus getting LA on top of that, I thought we're back again for another 7-8 years or so. This really sucks if it all goes down like this. Going out like this, if Kawhi is traded (and LA as well if the current rumour of him wanting out is true), I wasn't prepared for.
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It sucks a potential 7 year window of being a contender was taken away from the Spurs due to Kawhi being a re controlled by his opportunistic Uncle.
I would wait for the young pieces to mature if I were the Suns. Trading for a win now piece during the era GSW isn't in their best interests.
How about trading the Suns both Kawhi and LA. We'll take all their young pieces and they can start contending now. I guess they wouldn't have enough to match salaries in a trade like that.
How many of his games did you watch, honestkh?
What's your opinion? I haven't watched him play, but if I were drafting 1st or 2nd, I'd be worried about his athleticism.
How is his athleticism compared to the top NBA players?
Compared to other star perimeter initiators, below average.
I watched most of his games (probably around 90%) this season, starting with practice games before Eurobasket in August. To be fair, he was in best shape during Eurobasket and then kept this shape for a couple of months, followed by a slight decline somewhere around New year, with getting back in rhythm a couple of months later. Obviously, he is not as athletic as top NBA players, and I can guarantee you he will never be Lebron or Westbrook type of player, concerning athleticism. But it's not as bad as some people keep mentioning either. The reason why some mention it is, I would say, the fact that he is the type of player who doesn't need to rely on athleticism due to his high basketball IQ, great vision and understanding of the game. He does things in a game seamlessly, without the need of some "animal-like athleticism". His fundamental skills are extraordinary and I'd say those are the kind of things you cannot just learn, while he still has a lot of time and potential to work on his body (gaining muscles, losing fat and therefore become more explosive and athletic).
I would not say he is alarmingly unathletic or anything like that. He just has so many skills, that he does not need to rely on pure power to dominate the game. But if you watch the games, not just highlights, you can see that he is fast and athletic, with a lot of potential to improve too. He has always seemed like a perfect Spurs type of player, and I would really love to see him here. One can drram, they say.
So what about Dzanan Musa, the poor man's Docic?
how is Musa a poor man's Doncic? He looks more like poor man's Hezonja. All he does is shoots.
he was not that good, ok he had some good games but imo he's not a steal, he doesn't have an offensive game and is a little bit undersized.Apparently the Warriors did too.
Its year 1...and he had a significant ankle injury in the middle of the year. Go look at what he did before he went down with an ankle injury. Wasn't the same after that, but he still has plenty of time.
one thing you're right is that's it's just year 1 and he could improve.
For the 38th pick he was a steal.
His first NBA season he put up a PER of 18.0, BPM of 3.7.
Avg. 5 points, 4 boards, 1 block per game in a limited 12-14 minute role on a championship team where minutes are scarce playing behind Draymond. If it weren't for his injury, slowing down his momentum, he'd be playing over Looney like he was pre injury.
He's a finisher/ rim runner around the basket in DHOs/ PnRs on offense, nothing more -- and that is perfectly okay.
Not a steal. Just goes to show how you all get roped into media hype which misplaces good and bad players from hs up.
True dat.
I think they've ed up the rebuild, outside of Booker. Chriss has been a bad NBA player thus far and Bender has underwhelmed, as has Jackson, Len also didn't work out.
Kawhi plus L.A would have to involve Chandler's expiring top balance out the salary but that would be the nuclear option for the Spurs.
Kawhi for Number 1 and number 16 would probably be enough to get him, that or the number 1 pick, Bender, and 31
Yep. But maybe somehow the Kawhi thing will work out. Remains to be seen (though not promising now)
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