Spurs need Jalen Duren

[Kevin]

Jak could be more valuable with a contender than a rebuilding team is the point. It would take a couple more years, even with a great draft before our young core can be a contender. So the timeline wise, it’s best to move Poeltl for Centers with higher upsides like Duren or Williams.

And not to burst your bubble, Jak has reached his ceiling. I doubt he improves a whole lot, maybe a little. He just doesn’t have the motor or desire because he’s been in the league for how many years??? And he’s barely have consistent reliable offense. I say cash it out while ahead.

Jak has reached his ceiling as a good proven starter. Who knows if Williams or Duden reach this point and even if they do how long will it take them to there?

[The Truth #6]

Jak has reached his ceiling as a good proven starter. Who knows if Williams or Duden reach this point and even if they do how long will it take them to there?

I agree. Let's hope the CHA GM spends a lot of time on Spurs Talk and is reading this thread as we speak.

[John B]

I agree. Let's hope the CHA GM spends a lot of time on Spurs Talk and is reading this thread as we speak.

Nah.. Jak is awesome, freakish athlete. Top 10 center. 100% motor.

[exstatic]

Lamelo wants to throw alley oops to somebody. The GM likely acknowledges they need a center. They have the 13th pick. They are probably thinking they can wait and see if they can get either Duren or Mark Williams at 13. I don't imagine both of them gone, but I suppose there's a chance. Big picture, as others have said, we are likely projecting too much on their need for Yak. Maybe Borrego would have been one to speak well on Yak's behalf or whatever, but he's gone, and I don't think the non-initiated are dying to get Yak on their team, especially for what may be a one year rental if they don't want to pay a big raise, either.

There are plenty of guys on that team that can go get an oop. They need a guy who can set world class screens, switch, and anchor their defense, which was 25th in Drating last year. They’re not going anywhere until they fix that. The plain truth is that if you’re not a top draft pick, andNBA darling, you don’t get calls until like year three. That’s two wasted years of LaMelos talents.

[John B]

There are plenty of guys on that team that can go get an oop. They need a guy who can set world class screens, switch, and anchor their defense, which was 25th in Drating last year. They’re not going anywhere until they fix that. The plain truth is that if you’re not a top draft pick, andNBA darling, you don’t get calls until like year three. That’s two wasted years of LaMelos talents.

I do agree. Jak is a great screener and rolls well to the basket. With LaMelo as one of the best dishing, Jak’s game will benefit a lot. There’s an argument there that CHA could be better with Jak NOW than either Duren or Williams.

[Ocotillo]

As Ex has said a handful of times, Charlotte is not the only team with an interest in Jak. Toronto (who knows him more intimately than other teams) may be interested too. If they are shopping OG, may be a package there worth looking at. Draft Duren or Williams and while they won't have Jak's productivity next season, they hopefully grow into something.

[TD 21]

If the Hornets supposedly offered Washington Jr. and Jones for Poeltl, then it stands to reason they'd be willing to do Washington Jr and one of their 1sts for Poeltl and one of the Spurs lesser 1sts.

Besides, they're not a lock to get Duren or Williams. I doubt the Spurs draft the latter at 9, but they could and the Knicks could go with the former at 11.

[CGD]

As Ex has said a handful of times, Charlotte is not the only team with an interest in Jak. Toronto (who knows him more intimately than other teams) may be interested too. If they are shopping OG, may be a package there worth looking at. Draft Duren or Williams and while they won't have Jak's productivity next season, they hopefully grow into something.

What could we get from CHI for a Jakob extend and trade for Vuc’s expiring? Obviously they’d need to entice us.

[Mr. Body]

As Ex has said a handful of times, Charlotte is not the only team with an interest in Jak. Toronto (who knows him more intimately than other teams) may be interested too. If they are shopping OG, may be a package there worth looking at. Draft Duren or Williams and while they won't have Jak's productivity next season, they hopefully grow into something.

We DON'T know if Charlotte is actually interested in Poeltl.

We DO know that Toronto is interested Poeltl.

[BackHome]

Yeah if I am Toronto I am trying to get Jakob because of the following:
1. They know him all ready so they know his work ethic and abilities
2. He fits an immediate need as he is good center who fits in with the team
3. He would probably sign back with them unlike a lot of American players
4. I think even Jakob would like to go back to Toronto

One question is what team do you think can give us the better trade Toronto or Charlotte?

[CGD]

Yeah if I am Toronto I am trying to get Jakob because of the following:
1. They know him all ready so they know his work ethic and abilities
2. He fits an immediate need as he is good center who fits in with the team
3. He would probably sign back with them unlike a lot of American players
4. I think even Jakob would like to go back to Toronto

One question is what team do you think can give us the better trade Toronto or Charlotte?

Or will Chicago part with Pat Williams for Jak?

[Mr. Body]

Yeah if I am Toronto I am trying to get Jakob because of the following:
1. They know him all ready so they know his work ethic and abilities
2. He fits an immediate need as he is good center who fits in with the team
3. He would probably sign back with them unlike a lot of American players
4. I think even Jakob would like to go back to Toronto

One question is what team do you think can give us the better trade Toronto or Charlotte?

Poeltl is a better player now than when he left. Not simply because he's older, but because he's turned into more of an offensive hub. Would be interesting to see him work with Scottie Barnes and Co. His fit with Charlotte isn't the same.

[Thomas82]

We DON'T know if Charlotte is actually interested in Poeltl.

We DO know that Toronto is interested Poeltl.

Charlotte might be forced to make a deal now, especially with Montrezl Harrell facing felony charges for drug trafficking and could possibly do some time.

[Mr. Body]

Charlotte might be forced to make a deal now, especially with Montrezl Harrell facing felony charges for drug trafficking and could possibly do some time.

God damn, and he's my dealer.

[rankingtear]

We DON'T know if Charlotte is actually interested in Poeltl.

We DO know that Toronto is interested Poeltl.

I recall timvp said CHA and NO had poison pill mid-level offer for Jakob in 2020. Jake Fischer confirmed that Cha was one of the teams interested. Hoopshype detailed the package.

[Mr. Body]

I recall timvp said CHA and NO had poison pill mid-level offer for Jakob in 2020. Jake Fischer confirmed that Cha was one of the teams interested. Hoopshype detailed the package.

Yeah, just reporting some 'rumors.'

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/02/...n-buyouts.html

[Thomas82]

I recall timvp said CHA and NO had poison pill mid-level offer for Jakob in 2020. Jake Fischer confirmed that Cha was one of the teams interested. Hoopshype detailed the package.

Well, with Herrell being in trouble with the law, their already thin frontcourt might be taking a big hit. The Hornets might have no choice but to revisit this trade.

[exstatic]

Yeah, just reporting some 'rumors.'

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/02/...n-buyouts.html

You linked an article from this year, but the post you quoted was about Jack’s free agency in 2020. Poison pills are a facet of FA, not trades.

[JPB]

God damn, and he's my dealer.

Tell me about it, couldn't get my fix today.

[JPB]

Charlotte might be forced to make a deal now, especially with Montrezl Harrell facing felony charges for drug trafficking and could possibly do some time.

Jak isn't the only center in the NBA, specially one year away for cashing in.

[mo7888]

Jak isn't the only center in the NBA, specially one year away for cashing in.

What other C's do you think they could target? Mitc Robinson?

[rankingtear]

What other C's do you think they could target? Mitc Robinson?

Myles Turner

[mo7888]

Myles Turner

That'll cost them more but, they could if they want to pay that much..

[Degoat]

What other C's do you think they could target? Mitc Robinson?

There’s a lot tbh Myles Turner, Mo Bamba, Christian Wood, Nikola Vucievic, Zubac, Nurkic, Robinson, Jalen Smith, probably a few others too

[The Truth #6]

Sounds like CHA may try to draft either Duren or Mark Williams at #13; I don't think that's changed, though I could see other teams pumping up these two players in the hopes that CHA will make a trade, I suppose. Hard to say with all the inherent BS before the draft.