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    I think the message to CP3 is it’s time for us to play our best, so do you want to chill with us or we trade you somewhere for more PT / chance to ring. We’d love to have you, even transitioning to assistant coach in a few years if you’re interested.

    After that convo, my ideal is below, adjusting for matchups:

    PG: Fox - CP3 - Blake
    SG: Castle - Champ - Branham
    SF: Vassell - Keldon
    PF: Barnes - Sochan
    C: Wemby - Bassey / Mamu

    Castle and Sochan aren’t both on the court (for too long). Wemby (most mins) Sochan Bassey Mamu could rotate to where Bassey Sochan never see each other.

    1st unit is extremely dangerous. 2nd unit is much better but too reliant on KJ to initiate. Maybe stagger Fox / Castle later to help 2nd unit, aka 2nd unit starts small with Bassey/Mamu odd man out.
    I'm pretty sure we'll stagger Wemby and Fox, so one of them is on the floor at all times. Also it was reported that CP3 been wanting to play together with Fox for a while now.

    It's either

    Fox/CP3
    Castle/Champagnie
    Vassell/Keldon
    Barnes/Sochan
    Wemby/Bassey

    or

    Fox/CP3
    Vassell/Castle
    Barnes/Champagnie
    Sochan/Keldon
    Wemby/Bassey

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    CP3 turns 40 this year, surely he can be realistic about coming off the bench for Fox. Maybe two starting PGs can work but I don't see any other team who is in a better position to contend and needs him as a starting point guard. The best teams I can see with holes at PG are Miami and Minnesota. Is it really better joining a different team midseason than continuing to play with Wemby and now having Fox to ease the pressure of being the only playmaker in the backcourt? He's been surprisingly healthy and I honestly think the roster as is, frontcourt lack of depth and all, can make a realistic run to the playoffs now.

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    [COLOR=oklch(0.304 0.04 213.681)]Without Keldon Johnson, the revised best starting five for the San Antonio Spurs would be:[/COLOR][COLOR=oklch(0.304 0.04 213.681)][/COLOR][COLOR=oklch(0.304 0.04 213.681)]
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    Point Guard De’Aaron Fox
    Shooting Guard Devin Vassell
    Small Forward Stephon Castle
    Power Forward Jeremy Sochan
    Center Victor Wembanyama
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    Reasoning:

    • Stephon Castle steps in at small forward, offering size, defense, and shooting potential.
    • The rest of the lineup remains intact, maintaining a strong balance of playmaking (Fox), scoring (Vassell), defense (Sochan), and dominance in the paint (Wembanyama).

    ​According to Perplexity AI

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    Massive question and I'm sure if there are no more big moves they will try lots of things out. To me, CP as a starter is the goal. Unless he wants to come off the bench, you don't force it. His value as a teacher at this point is still extremely needed, even if the roster doesn't fit.

    If, then:

    Wembanyama
    Barnes
    Sochan
    Fox
    Paul

    I would almost try this. I think you need size and defense to help cover for the short guards and Fox's iffiness on defense, and you just can't have Sochan and Castle both coming off the bench. Try Castle in that unit instead, but one of him or Sochan is what I try in the first unit. And to me Barnes is just as important in the starters as Paul, or almost.

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    ^Awful take, per usual from Mr.Fat Body.

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    Once we get Kevin Tran situated, the sky is the limit for this team.

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    [COLOR=oklch(0.304 0.04 213.681)]Without Keldon Johnson, the revised best starting five for the San Antonio Spurs would be:[/COLOR][COLOR=oklch(0.304 0.04 213.681)][/COLOR][COLOR=oklch(0.304 0.04 213.681)]
    Position Player
    Point Guard De’Aaron Fox
    Shooting Guard Devin Vassell
    Small Forward Stephon Castle
    Power Forward Jeremy Sochan
    Center Victor Wembanyama
    [/COLOR]
    Reasoning:


    • Stephon Castle steps in at small forward, offering size, defense, and shooting potential.
    • The rest of the lineup remains intact, maintaining a strong balance of playmaking (Fox), scoring (Vassell), defense (Sochan), and dominance in the paint (Wembanyama).

    ​According to Perplexity AI
    Castle needs to start, but him and Sochan are bad together, need to minimize those minutes. Barnes at the 4 and I like it.

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    Starters: Barnes, Vassell, Wembanyama, Castle, Fox

    Bench/rotation: Paul*, Sochan, Johnson, Champagnie

    Spot minutes/deep bench: Bassey, Mamukelashvili, Branham, Wesley, McLaughlin

    G-League/two-way: Duke Jr., Ingram, Minix

    * Not convinced he's staying yet. Can't start or else the unit would lack a POA defender and if he's looking at a 20ish mpg backup role, why not go to the Thunder, Mavericks, Timberwolves (probably too far from family)?

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    We do have an open roster spot. PATFO has made some big scrap heap pickups in Champ, Bassey and Mamu. Maybe there is another one of those out there.

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    Mitch was asked pregame just now about playing CP3 and Fox together in SL. Replied that they’ve played with combos all season and will continue to experiment ala “rubiks cube” to find combinations that work.

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    I honestly don’t know if this ‘defensive field goal percentage’ is actually a useful stat (I see some criticize it), but if it is and we play:

    Fox
    Castle
    Vassel
    Sochan
    Wemby

    That’s three of the top seven for that stat in the NBA - and the other two are Castle and Vassel.

    https://x.com/statdefender/status/18...t-01jcc3tmp6y2

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    So, assuming we are drafting Dylan Harper, what's the roster looking like? I'm not 100% sure who's still under contract and who isn't, so make any correction that needs to be made.

    Fox / Castle / Wesley
    Harper / Champagnie / Branham
    Vassell / Keldon / Ingram
    Barnes / Sochan / Minix
    Wemby / Bassey

    Clearly not good enough, what do yall think the roster is missing? Imho, 2 shooting forwards and a backup Center.

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    So, assuming we are drafting Dylan Harper, what's the roster looking like? I'm not 100% sure who's still under contract and who isn't, so make any correction that needs to be made.

    Fox / Castle / Wesley
    Harper / Champagnie / Branham
    Vassell / Keldon / Ingram
    Barnes / Sochan / Minix
    Wemby / Bassey

    Clearly not good enough, what do yall think the roster is missing? Imho, 2 shooting forwards and a backup Center.
    if i had to guess, Harper would come off the bench and Fox/Castle would start. while castle can run point, he's a combo guy who can even play some 3, while Harper basically just plays like a point, though i think his catch and shoot figures and length are good enough where he can play some off-ball with Fox

    and yeah, they still have a hole at forward and backup center. they have the #14 pick, full MLE (worth 14 mil), and BAE (worth ~5mil) to do their best to fill those slots.

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    So, assuming we are drafting Dylan Harper, what's the roster looking like? I'm not 100% sure who's still under contract and who isn't, so make any correction that needs to be made.

    Fox / Castle / Wesley
    Harper / Champagnie / Branham
    Vassell / Keldon / Ingram
    Barnes / Sochan / Minix
    Wemby / Bassey

    Clearly not good enough, what do yall think the roster is missing? Imho, 2 shooting forwards and a backup Center.
    They are missing tall PF. Barnes and Sochan are more like tweeners, but with very different skillset. They need PF/C who can play next to Wemby and next to Sochan/Barnes when Wemby sits. Myles Turner would be perfect

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    Sandro will be resigned with Bassey. Both young and cheap. They will draft center with 38 or move up. They also have mle and 5 milly spot to get backup center and another 3D

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    So, assuming we are drafting Dylan Harper, what's the roster looking like? I'm not 100% sure who's still under contract and who isn't, so make any correction that needs to be made.

    Fox / Castle / Wesley
    Harper / Champagnie / Branham
    Vassell / Keldon / Ingram
    Barnes / Sochan / Minix
    Wemby / Bassey

    Clearly not good enough, what do yall think the roster is missing? Imho, 2 shooting forwards and a backup Center.
    This won't be the final team. Spurs have some work to do to round out the roster.

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    They are missing tall PF. Barnes and Sochan are more like tweeners, but with very different skillset. They need PF/C who can play next to Wemby and next to Sochan/Barnes when Wemby sits. Myles Turner would be perfect
    A floor spacer would be perfect for the roster in general, but not for Wembanyama specifically.

    The actualized version of Sorber is more so the ideal archetype to backup/occasionally play alongside him.

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    With a good defender in the racket to replace Victor, the second team can do damage. Golden State was winning its games in the third quarter, perhaps the Spurs should look to win their game in the two quarter tilts with the second team.

    With the first team, everything would revolve around Fox-Wemby picks and rolls. And with the second team, Castle-Harper-Vassell, the second team would torment the opposing second teams on fast play, on physical guards offense and on defense. Enough to considerably improve the team's +/- when Victor is not on the floor and make the difference against average teams before the last five minutes.

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    Regarding CP it was nice to have him but no way should he be getting minutes from Harper as the backup PG you could even make the point with Castle. If he wants to be a bench coach then OK but I think he would want more minutes lets say the Mavs.

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    Only way CP3 returns should be as Assistant Coach

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    This won't be the final team. Spurs have some work to do to round out the roster.
    That goes without saying. The first move I would make is getting rid of Keldon once and for all.

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    Fox - Harper - Wesley
    Castle - Champagnie - Branham
    Vassel - Keldon - Bryant
    Barnes - Sochan - ????
    Wemby - ????? - Bassey

    Two spots to fill, what are we thinking?

    I would like to sign Brook Lopez on free agency and trade Keldon for (or to make room for) a shooting wing.

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    Fox / Harper / McLaughling
    Castle / Champagnie / Jones-García
    Vassell / Keldon / Bryant
    Barnes / Sochan / ???
    Wemby / Kornet / Olynyk

    Am I missing someone? How do you think we can round up the roster? Minix seems like an obvious choice.

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    We staaaaaaccckkkkkkked!

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    Fox / Harper / McLaughling
    Castle / Champagnie / Jones-García
    Vassell / Keldon / Bryant
    Barnes / Sochan / ???
    Wemby / Kornet / Olynyk



    Am I missing someone? How do yMinix seems like an obvious choice.

    figure Minix and Ingram get the two other 2 way deals. They probably go get another big like Bassey

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