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YAY! MOAR worthless picks!
You're always tempted to try to get 2 great players out of one, and be the smart guy out, which can be dangerous, but unless spurs really see a "personality" issue with Scoot or there's a trade "you can't pass", which wouldn't probably be there, as of today I believe you gotta pick and keep Scoot.
Maybe till the draft, some young guys will emerge and make a trade more appealing, but trades like that rarely happen because you don't wanna be that team who traded* that future star... Just trust your ability to MAKE him that star.
Edit: *traded not drafted ofc.
YAY! MOAR worthless picks!
Why couldn't they? A combined $22-23M annually (for probably only a single season) to cover a rotational spot is a relative pittance in today's NBA and they'll still have plenty of cap space.
The idea that there's going to be some robust market for a small guard who can't shoot and isn't dynamic in any area of half court offense, is absurd.
I was thinking there's no way Detroit picks Scoot having Cunningham and Ivey. But we just saw them add Wiseman to the already crowded pool of raw & athletic big men (with Duren & Bagley), so who knows. Troy Weaver seems to be obsessed with the same kind of players.
if i'm detroit picking #2 im still probably taking Scoot. stack the talent, let the pieces fall where they may. you could have all of these guys playing 30+ minutes per game rotating at different guard spots throughout the game. can just split the 96 combined minutes between the 3 fairly evenly. and if need be, can get a haul for one of them, like a wing + picks
They'd still almost certainly select Henderson, the question is whether they'd keep him.
Depending on whether the Spurs land, with the Pistons lack of wing depth, trying to take a step towards respectability next season not exactly teeming with draft capital, something like Spurs 1st (4 is probably the lowest they'd entertain), Johnson and further draft capital could be appealing to them.
Because not every player you want is a free agent? And because the Spurs may not always have cap space?
The Spurs have enough cap space to sign some of the guys they want now use some to get future assets to trade or use later and still be under the cap. That won't always be the case, but it is for now, and they should be making hay while the sun shines instead of starving because they feel hay is suboptimal or whatever
You 2 guys could go 12 rounds with Ali and still throw punches. I'd have dropped it 3 phone books ago.
Tre Jones, qualifying offer of $5.2M, deadline of 6/29/2023.
This year’s salary, $1,782,621. The reason his QO is so relatively high is because he met “starter” criteria.
If the Spurs want to keep him they’ll just wave the QO at him. It isn’t a big decision, financially, with respect to the team overall.
And if the Spurs don’t want to keep him, then of course they don’t make the QO, and he’ll be unrestricted.
The way things look at the moment, I expect the Spurs will make the QO. But we’ll see.
I mean, ya, but people act like we brought this up out of no where lol. It’s the trade deadline, is totally relevant and only been 24 hours. Like we can’t discuss these things in the moment on a message board? I get it if it’s like a month later but it’s one day of conversation
yeah, no problem, just saying. Type on!
Lol - don’t worry - I’m heading back to Twitter 99% of the time
And to think it's a TON better than it used to be.
For all we know, we might have tried to get in on the Indy deal and LA said: You know what? No. We'd rather deal with Indiana than you guys.
We just saw Kyrie traded to the Mavs in-part because Tsai didn't want to appease him by trading him to the Lakers.
It's a tough argument to sell because of the variables between so many parties.
Sure…but we cant deny there was opportunities and it ended up being sort of a let down they could not find a way to do more, no? Does it mean we burn the franchise down and fire everyone? NO. But what’s wrong with telling the truth even if the end result is still fine?
I have no problem with your issues. You've said they're minor over and over and it's fine. I get it.
I get what you have a problem with. It makes sense.
I'm just saying we don't know what inner machinations were going on for said "missed opportunities" to have happened.
We're they lazy and uncreative? Maybe. Were they stopped at the door for one reason, or another? Maybe.
That's it. That's all.
Not trying to shut you up, or shut you down. I don't have the pieces, or want-to to do so.
Just bringing up alternative situations that might have been.
I think when you see some people like Hollinger baffled - it paints some of the picture. He’s not the only one that saw the opportunity and came away surprised. I guess defaulting to “they tried” is just as fair as defaulting to “they got lazy or fat and happy with what they did”…
But when theres that much opportunity out there feels like it leans more they were a bit lazy….but ya, no one truly knows so they get that pass I guess
Agreed.
Maybe they left meat on the bone.
Not the 1st time that has happened.
Hollinger is baffled that the Morey Rockets and Hinkie Sixers weren't dynasties. No one should be citing him for good GMing
Being wrong about some stuff doesn’t make someone wrong about everything all the time. Acting like Hollinger has zero eye or ability is just as silly as acting like everything he says is gospel
I wasn't too impressed with the trades.
Outside of doing nothing they got pretty much the minimum back in expectations in the trades.
I think they simply got what they could. The market was kinda crazy, and I also believe spurs were well inspired to get the Jak trade done earlier. A few hours later and I'm not sure Raps first is sitll on the table or with a much worse protection, after the SRP frenzy all over the league.
I don't know if Wright sniffed it after what was then considered as a cheap offer from Boston (and mabe others he got) but if he did, great job. Available FRPs were a rarity this year outside of the 2 blockbuster trades.
It's not "some things". It's his entire philosophy that's sus, right down to PER sucking. He and Pelton have always been basically worthless as analysts in my eyes.
I like his perspective on value extraction on bad teams but like I said, I would not trust him with a good team.
Hinkie is a legend imho
he died for our sins
he never got to see the fruits of the embiid pick, and it was his successors that botched the draft where they traded an additional first to move up from 3 to 1 and take Fultz when they could have stood pat and taken tatum
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