Spurs free agency targets

[exstatic]

The kind of shooting KD has is great at any height. That's exactly the point.

He'd be just another borderline A.S. guard in a flock of them, competing with Booker for a spot in the game.

[exstatic]

The kind of shooting KD has is great at any height. That's exactly the point.

Nobody is terrified of a 6'3" guy who shoots a career 38.5% from long. They're terrified of a 6'11" guy who does that, though.

[Mugen]

hopefully its a midnight offer sheet. put the lakers on the clock. they are going to want to abuse his low cap hold to make some maneuvers. forcing an accelerated timeline could really screw them

This. I'd like the Spurs to make an offer but, not just to F over LA, cuz I think he's legitimately good and would be a good fit with Wemby tbh.

[spurraider21]

And 40% in college. Wemby isn't averaging 28% in the NBA 3 pt line, he's doing it in Fiba, the equivalent of college. Are folks really expecting Wemby to become an all-time great shooter?

college 3 point line was way closer when durant was in college, so thats not a good comparison. when durant was in college, the 3 point line was less than 20 feet lol

[exstatic]

college 3 point line was way closer when durant was in college, so thats not a good comparison. when durant was in college, the 3 point line was less than 20 feet lol

19'9" or 19'6" I think.

[Extra Stout]

Nobody is terrified of a 6'3" guy who shoots a career 38.5% from long. They're terrified of a 6'11" guy who does that, though.

Yes, because the 6’11” guy can get that shot whenever he wants, whereas the 6’3” guy needs the offense to get him open.

How much more the 7’4” guy than the 6’11” guy.

Rim, paint, either hand, midrange, 3-point line. Unguardable in any of those spots. Could get 15 field goals on 15 different shots. THAT is what makes him a unicorn.

[Mugen]

Few years down the road, the team is going to be at its best when Sochan/Wemby are manning the 4/5 spots. Doesn't have to be Wemby at the 5, could easily be Sochan banging down low with Wemby roaming a la Hachimura/AD.

Add a couple of 3+D guys and another playmaker/initiator, and that team should be on the contender list if Wemby pans out as advertised tbh.

[DAF86]

There’s still a disconnect here. Ralph Sampson was 7’4”. Kristaps Porzingis is 7’3”. They did or do amazing things for players their height. The player you’re describing is those guys.

Do you really think folks talk about Wemby's shooting because of his 47%, 28% splits? Or because he pairs that hability with a 7'4" frame?

If you want to talk soley about skills, without taking into account the height/length, the truth is that the only thing that Wemby is really elite at right now is shot blocking. Which is fine. Wemby's value isn't on being elite at eberything, it's being good at everything with the potential of getting even better while being 7'4".

[Extra Stout]

Do you really think folks talk about Wemby's shooting because of his 47%, 28% splits? Or because he pairs that hability with a 7'4" frame?

If you want to talk soley about skills, without taking into account the height/length, the truth is that the only thing that Wemby is really elite at right now is shot blocking. Which is fine. Wemby's value isn't on being elite at eberything, it's being good at everything with the potential of getting even better while being 7'4".

OK, that’s the disconnect. I don’t expect a 19-year-old to be elite at a bunch of things. I project what he is going to be in three years based upon the tools he displays and his progression to date now at 19.

[CGD]

Mo Bamba anyone?

[Vince Carter's ankle]

may 22 on the calendar
the next season starts in october
chill out

[heyheymymy]

Spurs will figure it out

If you play a lengthy SF say bring back KBD you can play Sochan at PF and Victor at "C" but not traditional center and let Victor basically play a fluid PF roaming the perimeter and taking select opportunities around the rim with SA teaching Victor when and in what situations to operate towards and around the rim.

But with Sochan basically slotting PF but de facto C with the added length of a long SF like KBD to compensate size on the glass and interior defense with Victor essentially fluid floating around the backcourt choosing his moments wisely into the frontcourt

Put some shooter guards around that like Graham/Vassell or toolkit guards like Graham/Bran for inside outside comprehensive offense or throw Wesley in there on some combo or guards for defense

[TD 21]

Very rarely the guy best suited to guard Wemby will be the other's team center, that's exactly why playing a center alongside him would be a matchup nullifier.

Whether Wembanama plays next to another C or not, teams will still primarily just put their best big wing defender on him and have their C defend (by ignoring) Sochan or whoever.

Agreed though that offensively, all of the hybrid bigs are better, as is the team offense, when they play as the lone true big.

For now though, it's fine to primarily start Collins and play Bassey some alongside too.

[duncan2150]

Not a big fan but could coby white be a good target ? he was good for the bulls at the end of the season, can shoot, pass but not high on the D.

[TD 21]

Not a big fan but could coby white be a good target ? he was good for the bulls at the end of the season, can shoot, pass but not high on the D.

Restricted. Spurs would probably have to overpay to get them to walk away (career season and they lack young talent).

More of an SG/6th man type than a starting PG though. I'd pass.

[heyheymymy]

Could also see a lot of games where Victor starts at PF first half but let Sochan start at PF at the beginning of the second half so both get a start so to speak with the best performer of the two in the closer lineup at the end of the 4th Q.

This also build in light load management for Victor if that is a priority of SA staff.

[heyheymymy]

One thing that is attractive about Sochan off the bench is one of Victor or Sochan in at all times. Pretty next level to sub out Wemby and you get a fresh Sochan to put in and not skip a beat. Nasty.

And I think it's hard to put a #9 pick on the bench but Jeremy seems like the wise cool cat to be chill and team first enough to be alright with that. Puts him in line for a 6MOTY possibly if that's a sales pitch? He could feast on bench scrubs and pad stats if that's how you sell it to him.

[DAF86]

college 3 point line was way closer when durant was in college, so thats not a good comparison. when durant was in college, the 3 point line was less than 20 feet lol

That doesn't take away from the fact that your "Durant was a 29% 3pt shooter in his rookie season" was irrelevant for the Wemby comparisson, because we don't know what Wemby's 3pt% will be in his rookie season. So far we can only compare pre-NBA stats. Very rarely a guy that got into the league without already being a good jumpshooter, became an all-time great shooter in the NBA. Guys like Durant, Curry, Nash, Miller, Allen, etc. all got to the NBA as great shooters. The chances of Wemby becoming a Durant type shooter are slim to none.

[DAF86]

He'd be just another borderline A.S. guard in a flock of them, competing with Booker for a spot in the game.

Well, and Wemby wouldn't even be on the NBA shooting at 28% clip at 6'3". That's why what makes Wemby a generational talent is the complete package, being his size the most predominant aspect of that package.

[DAF86]

OK, that’s the disconnect. I don’t expect a 19-year-old to be elite at a bunch of things. I project what he is going to be in three years based upon the tools he displays and his progression to date now at 19.

And do you really expect him to be elite at shooting in 3 years? I don't. I expect him to be slightly above average. But that's fine because at the end of the day what will make Wemby elite will be his size.

[spurraider21]

you keep making it sound like im saying wemby is literally just durant but taller. i'm not.

and i didnt say he's as good a shooter or ball handler as durant. i dont think you have to be, if you are 7'4 without shoes

there is no direct 1:1 comparison for wemby. all we are trying to do is guess what his style of play will look like by looking at some of the closest analogs to him. durant is being used as a reference because he is a very long/wiry player who has a comparable skill set to wemby. thats not to say wemby is as good as durant in those skills.

the only other comp i can really think of is anthony davis (but when he was younger and not as bulky as he is now)

[DAF86]

Then why the comparisson with Durant? An Anthony Davis comparisson would be more reasonable.

[spurraider21]

Then why the comparisson with Durant? An Anthony Davis comparisson would be more reasonable.

and ive already compared him to anthony davis as well during this discussion while pointing out that davis also largely played PF before bulking up in more recent years

[spurraider21]

there are no direct comparisons to wemby because he truly is a unicorn. when i think of offensive scorers who take the most advantage of their length/wingspan and skill, i mainly think of giannis/durant/AD. of the 3, AD is the only one who plays center (or at least, doesnt typically play alongside another center), and even then, he's gone back and forth throughout his career. he played a lot more forward earlier in his career when he was skinny (plays at ~255 now and was ~220 when he was drafted).

[DAF86]

and ive already compared him to anthony davis as well during this discussion while pointing out that davis also largely played PF before bulking up in more recent years

In a different NBA. In the early 2010's Kendrick Perkins was still playable.

All I'm saying is that folks expecting Wembanyama to be the second coming of Kevin Durant are in for a rude awakening. They really have little in common. Anthony Davis is definitely the best comparisson available.