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They traded for 10. We coulda still moved up for Bufkin
Pretty sure OKC foiled our plan to select Cason by trading for 11.
They traded for 10. We coulda still moved up for Bufkin
I think it was Utah.
Oh yeah? Which team was trading their picks? Toronto? New Orleans? Because that's it.
We had a deal in place for 11, is the story we’ve heard. We could have made that deal for Bufkin. The deal to 11 was called off because okc moved up to 10 and took Wallace
And that’s assuming there were no deals to be had with the other teams up to 15
Having one deal to move into the lottery is significant. Having multiple contingencies to move into the lottery if the first falls through seems unrealistic.
Could just make the same deal for 11 they already had in place of having contingencies is unrealistic (it shouldn’t be)
No, that's just what ST thought initially. The deal was Utah trying to move up.
Probably unrealistic since were talking another team and everything that goes into negotiations plus any other teams also trying to make deals.
Ok that’s fine. Whenever held #11 was willing to move the pick. Get in there
Teams say no.
Now what?
no trade ever gets done if this is how people went about their business
Somebody is willing to move off their pick. It’s a matter of price. If their ask was ridiculous/bananas, utah wouldn’t agree to move up for it in the first place (assuming it was utah moving up and not us)
This particularly in a scenario where the FO identified way out that they didn’t like anything they saw in FA. If you don’t want to make improvements in FA or via the draft and your plan is just to add victor to the tank team, then that’s just a vision i don’t get behind
Sure, and the Spurs had a deal worked out with a team that was willing to move which took time and negotiation.
There's no reason to think they could just plug and play that same deal wherever they wanted.
cool. The spurs had a deal worked out to 11? Then move up to 11 and take bufkin
Maybe they didn't want that.
Maybe they had a deal they were willing to make for a specific player and that player was gone.
I understand the desire to do something NOW when you've been poring over player profiles for months.
Utah had their 16 or whatever it was to move up. The Spurs had nothing. Goddamn dude
so their one plan to improve the roster (aside from wemby of course) in a combination of the draft and FA was exactly one trade up scenario for Cason Wallace? Seems pretty dumb imo
You're free to think every single thing the Spurs do is dumb if you like.
No. They’ve done a lot of things I’ve praised. I think having exactly one specific scenario as your only plan to improve the roster is dumb though
Maybe there were others that fell through or weren't worth it considering the flexibility that still exists with the cap space.
It's dumb to think they had exactly one plan or thinking they will have no plans going forward.
in 2 years with mountains of cap space, what we have to show for it is the 2nd rounder from dedmon and now cedi osman and a 2030 second rounder. I’m told this is simply the best that could be done
the last time we owned a high value second rounder we traded it for two distant second rounders
I simply didn't say that.
What do you think they could have done better
Dunno specifically. I didn't have any pet deals or players I wanted for myself. I can see how someone with more knowledge could. I do know there were certainly opportunities passed up because they had enough assets to overpay for just about anything during the draft or free agency had they wanted to do so.
So what?
There's still opportunities out there and will continue to be well into the season. I'm fine with dealing with those possibilities (like getting in on a Lillard trade, for example) that mourning something I built up in my mind but didn't happen.
I never read anything to that effect. Do you have a source, or is it just speculation on your part?
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