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    espn has a statistical projection record tool:
    https://www.espn.com/nba/bpi/_/view/projections

    Right now, they project Spurs to end with the 7th, 9th and 15th picks in the 2025 draft.
    The East being so weak right now is simultaneously good for our chances of getting one of CHA/CHI picks (maybe both?), but also bad for the quality of the ATL one. Right now, I think I take the additional pick over a less interesting ATL pick, which we are already guaranteed.

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    I'm still thinking someone like Trae Young, Donavan Mitchel or Lillard are big time shot makers that I bet could be pried. I'm not too worried about the "timeline" because you can maximize the roster and tweak it as necessary since Wemby is the constant. Even someone like a Tyler Hero isn't scared and seems to have the ability to play clutch. We can't just stand pat and hope something happens. Wemby is all world but the guy needs a big brother out there. Also, can he really be the top dog on offense and defense and be that at a high level most of the time? I don't think so and I don't think that's how we should do it. (I thought we should have made a play for PG13!)

    The good thing is we have Castle and Wemby who in my book are non negotiable while others are actually good enough to package along with picks. For the guys i mentioned, neither would Vessel.

    If we stand still what do you think we will be doing next season to become championship caliber?
    yeah, what do you think about a trade like this which is actually very possible- I really think Bucks would do this as opposed to trading Giannis?



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    yeah, what do you think about a trade like this which is actually very possible- I really think Bucks would do this as opposed to trading Giannis?


    Lillard is washed. Do. Not.Want.

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    yeah, what do you think about a trade like this which is actually very possible- I really think Bucks would do this as opposed to trading Giannis?


    Apparently something like this wouldn’t work bc Milwaukee is in cap jail and can’t aggregate their own players to make the $$ work. They can receive multiple but can only send one out.

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    Apparently something like this wouldn’t work bc Milwaukee is in cap jail and can’t aggregate their own players to make the $$ work. They can receive multiple but can only send one out.
    Thank God.

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    yeah, what do you think about a trade like this which is actually very possible- I really think Bucks would do this as opposed to trading Giannis?



    No way. Lillard owed a ton of money too. Aging small PG... no thanks

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    yeah, what do you think about a trade like this which is actually very possible- I really think Bucks would do this as opposed to trading Giannis?


    That would be a dream come true if they accepted that. Honestly think they would swap Barnes and Paul for some kinda pick. Regardless, Dame would be great with Wemby. Move Vassel to the 3 and keep Castle as the 1. I'm telling yall vassell is a great 3-man in the best case scenario.

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    Apparently something like this wouldn’t work bc Milwaukee is in cap jail and can’t aggregate their own players to make the $$ work. They can receive multiple but can only send one out.
    I think they could do multiple players for multiple players just not consolidate multiple players for one player. Also this trade works with or without aj Johnson. And you could sub Zollins for Johnson. Idk they need a decent big I think so they might actually want him more than Keldon.

    But yeah I kinda agree with you guys that Lillard is done. Only if they think they can bring back 28 point a game Lillard is it worth it.

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    Draft and stash 1st rounder, smh.

    It has to be trade bait, take best prospect with highest pick, pack middle pick with expiring contracts like Barnes, Collins, Keldon, stash or trade away lowest. Next year, they cant around with brand new rookies in rotation.
    they can absolutely play rookies that are better than Blake Wesley, Branham and Keldon. The top 20 in this draft is most likely better than these bums right away, just like Castle

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    they can absolutely play rookies that are better than Blake Wesley, Branham and Keldon. The top 20 in this draft is most likely better than these bums right away, just like Castle
    Draft is stacked, but all of them being very young. Then you would have your rotation - 3 rookies, 1 soph - Castle, 3rd year Wemby out of 9-10 guys, with a chance one of them being 40 yrs CP3. All that with new coach.

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    If we end up at .500, does Mitch keep the job?

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    Draft is stacked, but all of them being very young. Then you would have your rotation - 3 rookies, 1 soph - Castle, 3rd year Wemby out of 9-10 guys, with a chance one of them being 40 yrs CP3. All that with new coach.
    "Of course, it can work. Oklahoma City has proven this over the last few years, and the future looks bright for them, especially with them still being one of the youngest teams in the league. Bringing in older, more experienced players doesn't always work, as we've seen with teams like Philadelphia and Milwaukee."

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    I think they could do multiple players for multiple players just not consolidate multiple players for one player. Also this trade works with or without aj Johnson. And you could sub Zollins for Johnson. Idk they need a decent big I think so they might actually want him more than Keldon.

    But yeah I kinda agree with you guys that Lillard is done. Only if they think they can bring back 28 point a game Lillard is it worth it.
    I was watching a bucks game analysis, and his nickname used to be Every Other Dame, like every second game he went off. The analyst said now his nickname should be once a week Dame,if Milwaukee is lucky.

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    I almost hate to admit it, but I like the young guys the Hawks have assembled... Jalen Johnson and Dyson Daniels are both versatile switchable guys, and Hunter, Nance Jr, and Okongwu are all better as bench depth rather than starters. If the 19 yr old Risacher winds up being anywhere above average, they've got a pretty good future blueprint in place.

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    As we approach the deadline, the standings will be more clear and at that point the Spurs can make some decisions on whether to put this year’s picks up for trade.

    For example, if CHA is sitting in the 6th seed at the deadline, I’d definitely try to move that pick. First, it will likely be teetering on the edge of conveying not conveying only by a matter of games, so why take the risk of it going from a #16-18 pick to 2 SRPs. Cash it in at the deadline for something useful. Second, even if it does convey it’s not a pick the Spurs are likely to use. We’re well past the time of taking 3-4 FRPs.

    Likewise, if ATL or CHI is looking like a playoff team, you can move those picks to someone who needs it. Unfortunately, the best pick of the bunch this years appears like it will probably be our own (though there is still some hope for the ATL pick). I anticipate us only using 1 pick this year, maybe two if they are both top 10. Sell the rest while you can.

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    As we approach the deadline, the standings will be more clear and at that point the Spurs can make some decisions on whether to put this year’s picks up for trade.

    For example, if CHA is sitting in the 6th seed at the deadline, I’d definitely try to move that pick. First, it will likely be teetering on the edge of conveying not conveying only by a matter of games, so why take the risk of it going from a #16-18 pick to 2 SRPs. Cash it in at the deadline for something useful. Second, even if it does convey it’s not a pick the Spurs are likely to use. We’re well past the time of taking 3-4 FRPs.

    Likewise, if ATL or CHI is looking like a playoff team, you can move those picks to someone who needs it. Unfortunately, the best pick of the bunch this years appears like it will probably be our own (though there is still some hope for the ATL pick). I anticipate us only using 1 pick this year, maybe two if they are both top 10. Sell the rest while you can.
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    Well, I guess a bunch of kid first rounders for DJM is still a good deal …

    Alright guys I’m coping.

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    Recall during the Trae Young trade rumors, people talking about how Trae Young had no value and how our ATL picks were golden because the Hawks would be forced to sell Trae for pennies on the dollar and tailspin into being a bottom 5 team… completely ignoring the fact that the Hawks had the option of simply keeping Trae and improving their team around him… which is exactly they’ve done.

    ATL isn’t going to suddenly become a top team in the East… but their demise was greatly exaggerated by folks hoping for the best for the Spurs assets.

    With all of that said… F the Hawks. Hope they go on a 40 game losing streak. GSG!

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    They had years of tension and problems so it was a good bet on our end. Still a long season. But they lucked out with Dyson Daniels and Jalen. Quin Snyder is competent so that was also in their favor. We'll see.

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    Well, I guess a bunch of kid first rounders for DJM is still a good deal …

    Alright guys I’m coping.
    Spurs won that trade the second Houston got the fourth pick since any of Wemby, Miller, or Amen is preferable to Dejounte.

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    Lost to the Blazers tonight tbh

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    Hawks drop one to the Blazers. Blazers not tanking hard enough tonight.

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    Noice! Lose Hawks Lose!

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    Should drop their next one against the Kings.

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