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Spurs or Rockets confirmed. (It's Amico, I know)
There's a very logical framework for the trade:
Houston get Giannis
NO get Sengun
Milwaukee get a couple of young players and picks from Houston and their own picks from NO.
Hope Giannis stays in the east though.
Spurs or Rockets confirmed. (It's Amico, I know)
I'm not convinced they'd want Sengun, but we'll see. He's more Sabonis than Jokic, tbh.
Watch Miami, again, pull a rabbit out of their asses.
New Orleans isn’t returning Milwaukee’s picks for Sengün.
i dont think the spurs emptying the cupboard for giannis is the winning play, but i think the conversation only begins to make sense if we jump to #2 in the draft because that pick would carry a ton of value in trade talks
Giannis for castle and a three first, unless we get flagg, spurs have to pull the trigger. If we get a top 4 pick other tan flagg, include in trade along with three firsts, keeping castle.
I think any pick 2-4 would get their attention. The reason most teams want the full spread of picks is so that maybe one of them becomes a 1-4 pick. Having that might make them less pick hungry, a bird in the hand, so to speak.
attention, sure. but Harper is a tier above the others and you could project him as a #1 option for a team, which you cant really do for other guys in this draft right now
Can't be compared.
Jokic never had an all-NBA teammate and Giannis had a 2 year contending window.
Wemby was arguably a top5 player for those couple of months before his conditioning issues started.
Giannis is the second best player in the league and will surely be a top5 player for at least 3 more years.
The last time two top5 players played together a lot of fans gave up on the league because it was straight up broken. And that was with was less forgiving CBA when it comes to building superteams.
We also happen to have an all-star point guard on the roster who's prime just started.
Spurs have 9 tradeable picks, 5 have swaps attached.
There would still be a lot of assets left after the trade. I'd personally do it with 5 FRPs in 2025-28 period and we'd still stay flexible in post-Giannis era.
I'm not saying we should 100% do it, but if there's an opportunity to trade for the second best player in the league, you have to consider it.
It can go wrong, but we can also go with the slow process and fail. Giannis guarantees a lot of wins.
The reason why I don't think it happens is coaching situation. I feel like Wright would've hired someone experienced if we went the Giannis route because that would mean instant contention and no margin for error.
No ing way do we give up Castle. Holy that'd be dumb.
If Giannis is really making a push to leave then the Bucks are in the passenger seat tbh.
I would much rather ride with a young team growing together.
If the lakers try something stupid then we send them every player not named Wemby, Castle, or Fox; and whatever draft picks they want.
I think they might. Maybe give them another asset like Sheppard, whatever.
They're a small market team in a bad state, starved for some success, and Sengun is an All Star player signed long term. A player they could never attract otherwise. He also fits them very nicely and allows them to trade Zion, then build around Sengun, Murphy III, Jones, this year's pick and whatever they get from Zion. This isn't bad at all. Certainly better than waiting for Milwaukee's picks, which might realistically be in the 7-10 range. Also, you have to consider that one of the picks is a swap in 2026 and NO themselves don't project to be too much ahead of a non-tanking Milwaukee.
Last edited by BG_Spurs_Fan; 05-12-2025 at 01:59 PM.
Sengun plus picks for Giannis makes a lot of sense for the Bucks. As does Holmgren plus picks or Castle plus picks. Bucks aren't settling for picks and matching salary and nor should they since Giannis is open to several different destinations.
Sengun still only turns 23 next month although he feels much older for some reason.
Not true. The top of the eat is just as good, if not better than the top of the west. The only scary team in the west is OKC, and they have flaws. Just ask Giannis how easy the east is.What team exactly looks impressive in the East tbh... ?
You need 36 wins in the East to be in the play inIf you are a future star and wants to get the best odd to win a le go to East, easier RS, easier path to the finals.. not even close
The west has the bigger stars, but a lot of those guys are close to the end of their careers.
I posted about this earlier in this thread, but I don't see Miami as a legitimate option if Giannis wants to compete because it would almost certainly cost them Bam and/or Herro + draft picks (projected late in the First Round) to obtain him. Then Giannis would be surrounded by in Miami. That wouldn't be a compe ive team. I seriously doubt he's interested in that. So we'll see what happens, but I'd be surprised if it's the Heat tbh. Rockets still make the most sense, followed by the Spurs. OKC and Brooklyn are the other dark horse contenders imo.
Giannis is obviously awesome... no arguing that.
But I cannot for the life of me reconcile the concept of the Spurs acquiring Giannis while going the cheap, easy route with Mitch as HC. The two concepts are just so diametrically opposed that they are incoherent when viewed together.
I also don't think the Spurs have the desire or the testicular for ude to play in a high stakes compe ive trade scenario. The Spurs like value in their trades. The were gifted value in the Fox trade by De'Aaron and Klutch narrowing their list of destinations to one. Unless Giannis does the same, I don't think Brian Wright will want to pay a compe ive price (and Brian is probably right... since Giannis is definitely going to cost the farm).
Twin Towers 2.0 tbh.
You completely missed my point. Yes, such a trade would improve us short term, giving Wemby an All NBA teammate, but by the time Wemby is late 20s early 30s, our cupboard will be just as bare as Denver’s/Milwaukees, and it’ll be the same situation: no way to improve,no way out other than to blow it up and trade Wemby. We’ll be on the Denver/Milwaukee track if we make this trade.
You're probably right. Wright seems like an asset hoarder unless he can get guys for pennies on the dollar like Fox.
Mitch got the job without other coaching interviews in a stacked coaching free agent class. Objectively poor conduct if we're being honest. This is why I have no doubt that Sochan is getting a nice deal next summer no matter how useless he is on offense. Fully prepared for a 5/100M deal
Again, Nuggets/Bucks never had picks from other teams, they were always the buyers.
Castle, Devin (if they want him), salary filler and 5 FRPs would be the fair asking price, imo.
Spurs would still have 4 picks left and then all the picks from 2032 onward. That's why I said I'd trade the near future picks, not the 20131 ones. Hawks picks are still the most valuable assets we have, especially if we get lucky again.
The key question here is do you think we could get more value from Castle staying and Hawks picks than from Giannis?
I'd say that Nuggets and Bucks got stuck in no man's land not because they failed big trades, but because they wasted too many assets on smaller trades and missed with most of their late FRPs.
Then there's the Wemby question. Are you really banking on a 7'4 player being healthy in his late 20s?
The goal is to win championships and having rookie contract Wemby and Giannis would be the best way to do it, especially with the parity in the league right now.
Again, I'm not 100% sold on this, but the line between blowing your load too early and being left with your in your hand is very thin and there isn't an obvious answer in this situation.
Giannis' contract situation kind of fits the timeline because he's got a player option for 27-28 season, the same summer Wemby's extension kicks in.
Another thing is that Spurs would have a huge advantage in free agency because every veteran's first choice would be playing with Giannis and Wemby.
Giannis is tempting for all the obvious reasons but I think a more careful analysis would show that we would be better off not pulling the trigger on such a trade.
There i no way we trade Castle!
Castle has 15 years of s om left; Giannis has about 3.
The only way to get Giannis is to pray Spurs get a top 2 pick tonight and trade it plus fillers for Giannis.
Milwaukee fans are in complete ing denial of what is about to happen to them.
Read: GTFO Brooklyn!
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