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Stack is a punk because he continues with his hardass antics. Every time I turn on a game with him in it he's starting some with random people over nothing. It's an old act.
He's still a Piston at heart.
Stack is a punk because he continues with his hardass antics. Every time I turn on a game with him in it he's starting some with random people over nothing. It's an old act.
Some people say the same thing about the person in your signature.
Are you kidding me? How many times have you seen Sheed have to get seperated from a player for picking a fight as a Piston? Once? Maybe? Stack does that every damn game.
He's a PUNK.
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Wallace's critics say his battles aren't with the players, apparently.Are you kidding me? How many times have you seen Sheed have to get seperated from a player for picking a fight as a Piston? Once? Maybe? Stack does that every damn game.
He's a PUNK.
Are you telling me you wouldn't like to have Stack back as the sixth man (if money isn't an issue)?
Ask Mavs Fans. Most of them seem to hate him.
The Pistons not only came from behind, they won me $400 through V bookie.
I hate his game. I don't know about him as a person but shooting 30% is not a type of player you would want on your team.
He's a bench player. I'm not asking him to be a number one option, although he has been one. Billups only shoots .420 from the field.
They said a lot of similar things about "s"Corliss Williamson. He can't D up anyone, he's too small for the post, and he's not going to do anything for you if he's not scoring. None of those things changed all that much, but in the minutes he was on the floor, he was agressive with the basketball and brought energy. Being a sixth man for the Pistons is a different prospect than being a sixth starter on another team. All he'd be asked to do is stay agressive, play within himself (something Stack has struggled with), and make plays. I think that's a role he could fill on this team. I'd love to see McDyess and Stack fill out the Pistons 7 man rotation.
What bothers me is the injuries. He's had bands on his knees since his 4th season in Detroit. He's had multiple groin strains, and he's missed a lot of time since leaving.
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Who choked in the game 5 of the first round of the 2002 playoffs against the Toronto Raptors, only to be bailed out by Ben Wallace and Corliss Williamson?
Mr. Jerry Stackhouse.
Who choked again in game 5 of the second round of the 2002 playoffs against the Boston Celtics in an elimination game on his own homecourt to lose the series as the higher seed?
Mr. Jerry Stackhouse.
After being traded to Washington, who lied about not being called by Joe Dumars about the trade?
Mr. Jerry Stackhouse.
Who choked a woman out of anger?
Mr. Jerry Stackhouse.
Stack is not a bad guy. He was actually good for the Detroit community. And, he's definitely a talent. But, on and off the court, he deserves a lot of his criticisms.
uva game. Mavs100000000001 or whatever can make all the excuses he wants. Stack and KVH going nuts like they did certainly balanced that game out just fine.
Besides, injuries are apart of the game. Dont blame the opposition, blame your training staff.
He shot 1-9, that is true. The one field goal was the game-winner. You're forgetting that to get a 2-0 lead, Stackhouse had to hit three 3-pointers in the final two minutes of game two.
You've got me there. Stackhouse had a horrific last game in Detroit. 8 points on 3-18 shooting, 5 rebounds, and 5 assists. Guess what? The dude said he failed his team after the game. All the venom he spits at others, he was as equally as pissed off at himself. When Mike Curry goes for 15 points, Corliss gives them 17 off the bench, Atkins breaks out of series long slump for 22, and you're two leading scorers go for 12 points on 5-28 shooting, it's a bad game.
The Celtics were a bad matchup. The Pistons stuggled to beat them all season, whether they had a 20 point lead or not. Their two wins, both at the Palace, were single-digit affairs. The Pistons rallied from a 17-point 2nd-half deficit to beat them the first time, and couldn't sustain a 15-point lead and needed some key mistakes by the Celtics to beat them the second time.
Let's not forget the Mr. Jerry Stackhouse hit the potential game-winner in Boston over 3 defenders, but it was one-tenth of a second too late. The Pistons would've gone up 2-1, and it's a completely different series. The Pistons wouldn't win a road playoff game under Rick Carlisle, until game six vs. Orlando in 2002-03. They were 2-8 on the road overall. The Pistons didn't know how to win a seven-game series, and that is why they were down 3-1 to Orlando in 2002-03.
You're forgetting that Stackhouse had a damn-near triple-double in the only win in that series with Boston - 26 points, 11 rebounds, and 8 assists.
And do you not remember Chucky Atkins as he struggled to guard Kenny Anderson? 13.8 ppg, 3.6 rpg, and 4.4 apg versus 8.0 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 3.8 apg. Anderson had one game in single-digits, and it was in a Boston blowout. Chucky Atkins didn't score more than 5 points in a single game until game five (22 points).
Anderson routinely broke Atkins down, got into the lane and passed out to one of the floor spreaders - Delk, Rogers, Pierce, and Walker. He was the third option the Celtics had struggled to find all season.
Two playoff inexperienced teams going into the playoffs with 50 and 49 wins? Both failing to win a road playoff game in the first round? Yeah, it was a big upset.
I honestly don't remember this.
Charges were dropped, were they not?
Stackhouse was always overhyped. He has made every team worse that he's been on. He is a black hole also. At the end of games he thinks he has to take over the game and it cost Dallas last night. Even on his best games he finds a way to hurt Dallas. He is a poor shooter, turnover prone, and a black hole. Why any team would want him on their team I wouldn't know.
Isn't he a cancer in the lockerroom as well?
Didn't he punch Laettner over a few hundred dollars on the Pistons team plane?
He's been perceived as a team cancer since his second season in the league. How can he be overhyped? What I know is that Stackhouse got this team further as a leader (in two years) than Grant Hill ever did (in six).
Well, let's put you're theory to the test.
Philadelphia 76ers:
Pre-Stackhouse:
1992-93: 26-56
1993-94: 25-57
1994-95: 24-58
Total: 75-171 (.304)
With Stackhouse:
1995-96: 16-66
1996-97: 22-60
1997-98: 6-16
Total: 44-142 (.236)
Detroit Pistons
Pre-Stackhouse:
1993-94: 20-62
1994-95: 28-54
1995-96: 46-36, 0-3
1996-97: 54-28, 2-3
1997-98: 11-14
Total: 159-194 (.450), 2-6 (.250)
With Stackhouse:
1997-98: 26-31
1998-99: 29-21, 2-3
1999-00: 42-40, 0-3
2000-01: 32-50
2001-02: 50-32, 4-6
Total: 179-174 (.507), 6-12 (.333)
Washington Wizards:
Pre-Stackhouse
2000-01: 19-63
2001-02: 37-45
Total: 56-108 (.341)
With Stackhouse
2002-03: 37-45
2003-04: 25-57 - missed career-high 56 games.
Total: 62-102 (.378)
Dallas Mavericks:
Pre-Stackhouse:
2002-03: 60-22, 10-10
2003-04: 52-30, 1-4
Total: 112-52 (.682), 11-14 (.440)
With Stackhouse
2004-05: 58-24, 6-7
2005-06: 54-17
Total: 112-41 (.730), 6-7 (.461)
I think the only argument you can make against Stackhouse with this record, is that he has a marginal impact on how the franchise performs.
Taking over a game is not something I believe he can do. I don't think he's an initiator of the offense; he's not going to run off 12-straight points at the end of games. In 1999, he hit the game-winning shot over Utah on national TV. In 2000, He sent the Pistons into overtime vs. the Miami Heat on opening night, he sent the Pistons into overtime vs. the Atlanta Hawks with a 3, he scored 6-straight points to pull the Pistons within one vs. the Blazers. Hill goes one-on-one on on the last possession, and the Pistons lose the game. In 2001, he set a career-high 44 points in a opening night win vs. the Raptors. In 2002, he hit the game-winning runner in Charlotte that gave the Pistons a Central Division lead, he hit the series-winning jumper over the Raptors in game 5 of the first round.
My point is that Stackhouse has been clutch, and people don't seem to realize the guy has grown up a lot.
If he doesn't pass the ball to Prince yesterday, are you still writing this post? I saw three-straight possessions last night of Dallas mental mistakes, and only one of them had to do with Stack.
Stack is fine as a 6th man...he should be the 4th option at crunch time though...
Dirk
Terry
Howard (when healthy)
Stack
I don't know why he's taking such a beating. The guy has been pretty solid with the Mavs and he hasn't had any off the court problems that I can remember....
Isn't there some sort of "good guy, not a lockerroom cancer" certification that you get when you punch Laettner?
Avery Johnson obviously doesn't think of him as a black hole or he wouldn't be with the team. I would say he's a better evaluator of talent than you, yes?
I watch every game the mavs play and so far Stackhouse has hurt Dallas more than helped them despite the record. Avery realizes he has to baby Stackhouse or he will throw a fit in the lockerroom so he has no choice but to play the Stackhole. Daniels isn't that great but he sure doesn't throw bricks like Stackhouse does. Maybe Stackhouse was clutch before but he has also choked. He is the one always taking the shot so he is bound to be clutch at one point. He is constantly shooting around 41% for his career in the regular season and 36% in the playoffs. He doesn't rebound well, he has a lot of turnovers, and he has a lot of defensive lapses. That move by Dumars in which Stackhouse got traded for Hamilton was brilliant.
AJ didn't trade for him.
But he DOES control the minutes.
Sure, but who else is he going to play at this point? It's odd that most teams get better after sending Stack away.
He's a better evaluator than you too CD.
"A black hole" is extreme.
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